Saturday, April 18, 2009

Nefarious nexus: The 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing, DHS & MIAC memos

Report by Douglas J. Hagmann, Director, Northeast Intelligence Network

weep17 April 2009: Sunday will mark the 14th anniversary of the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City that claimed 171 lives - 168 men, women and children and three unborn. It is also a day on which the largest criminal conspiracy and cover-up of the 20th century began and continues today.

Before I continue, I want to point out that it seems to be a fairly common practice for Internet bloggers and others who live the majority of their lives in the virtual realm to throw around accusations such as “conspiracy” and “cover up” based on what they read or find as a result of Internet searches. This practice, usually by people who have not even changed out of their pajamas or left their homes, frequently diminishes the importance associated with those accusations.  Therefore, it is important for readers of this article to understand that the accusations of conspiracy and cover-up referenced herein are based on the information developed from real life investigation, external, on-site research and even surveillance conducted by professional investigators over the last several years.

The April 19th, 1995 bomb blast that shredded the Murrah building and the lives of hundreds of American families continues to reverberate within the United States in a way that the Islamic terrorists connected to the plot and the bombing, all who have been and remain domiciled in the United States, could have only dreamed about. It is successfully serving as a catalyst to shred something else - the constitution of the United States and the rights of patriotic citizens.

It is absolutely no coincidence that the bombing of the Murrah building is referenced within nearly all of the government investigativedocuments that culminated with the nine-(9) page assessment published by the Department of Homeland Security on 7 April 2009. That document, which (and this is VERY important to understand) is merely an unclassified assessment of a collection of much more detailed documents, began to “go viral” when radio talk-show host Roger Hedgecock broke the story last week.  Its release was accompanied by outrage, mainly by right-wing conservatives, who were appropriately disgusted but its implications. That outrage was further fueled by the remarks made by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano that she stood by the report.

miacIt was nearly two months ago when a similar document issued by the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) was leaked. That document, which was based on a collection of other documents published by DHS and distributed among their fusion centers, also referenced the dangers posed by right-wing extremists in the U.S., hinting by association at the Oklahoma City bombing.

It is important to understand that these two documents are merely a miniscule representation of a growing number of reports shaping the current policy of the Department of Homeland Security. The DHS, ostensibly established to enhance the security of law-abiding Americans from the threats of terrorists, has been effectively manipulated from within and externally. One has to look no further than the southern border fence project to understand that the homeland security is less about security and more about control, although that will be addressed separately.

Obviously, one can see a pattern that has developed and is being carefully refined through a very well orchestrated molding of public perception by various government officials having a larger agenda. That agenda is advanced further through the actions of a cooperative and highly compromised media. That agenda consists, in part, of demonizing the conservative element of America through unfounded accusations and facilitating the advancement of their globalist aspirations. And 14 years after the 1995 terrorist bombing in Oklahoma City, they are exploiting the tragic loss of life to shamefully advance their own agenda.

Over the next several days as we mark the anniversary of this attack, I will be publishing an extensive series on our investigative findings of the Oklahoma City bombing, the Muslim terrorists who were involved in the planning and execution of that attack yet continue to walk the streets of America, and the politicians who let them.

Meanwhile, if you would like to get important information - the real truth behind the Oklahoma City Bombing, I would recommend grabbing a copy of The Third Terrorist by Jayna Davis. Of all the books written about the 1995 terrorist attack, her book is unquestionably the most authoritative investigative product you can get on this subject.

31 comments:

midnight rider said...

One thing Hagmann will likely mention is that McVeigh apparently met with Khalid Sheik Mohammad days before this. Also that the third terrorist, a man scene getting out of the van with McVeigh that day was Mohammad.

I cannot remember the details as it has been a couple years since I read about that at NEIN so what I mention above is very sketchy at best. I really hope he elaborates on it again. It is important into how long the war with Al Qaida Corporate, if you will, has been going on.

Anonymous said...

This may, just may, backfire on the government if it becomes public that there was, indeed, a "middle east" connection in OKC.

Of course, then they'll just say that Christian fundies were in cahoots with Islamic fundies. . .

Ro

Damien said...

Pastorius,

So you are saying that Timothy McVay and Terry Nicole's didn't act alone when the committed the Oklahoma city bombing and that they were helped by jihadists? I've heard this claim before, even before nine eleven, but never saw any convincing evidence to back it up. If its true, I hope you can show us that evidence.

Jewel said...

You didn't see evidence? We forget so quickly. Jayna Davis was a CBS reporter who broke the case YEARS ago. Immediately following the bombing came the sketches that went out on television...of 3 men, one of whom was clearly middle eastern. Shortly before that, Iraqi agents had been caught in OK on their way to Texas to assassinate Bush.Timothy McVeigh and his other idiot accomplace had learned their bombmaking craft through Muslim terrorist organizations in the Philipines. McVeigh was no Christian, and openly mocked Christians. He was a bitter atheist to the end.

Anonymous said...

Damien - his post references a book - "The Third Terrorist" as an "authoritative investigative project" on the subject. Maybe you could check it out - I am going to. Pamela has a post up on this also, so I think this story may have some legs - 14 years later!


Ro

midnight rider said...

Hi Damien -- Pastorius isn't saying it, the article is by Doug Hagmann at Northeast Intelligence Network. He's been saying it for quite some time, as have others such as Jayna Davis who he references. There has been evidence to suggest a third terrorist, a mid-east connection just as you say. See what Hagmann presents over the next couple days, keeping an open mind.

If you want to visit Northeast Intelligence Network directly (I don't know if you have or not) the website is www.homelandsecurityus.com

He has a search engine there you can look for other stuff he has written on this subject, as well as lots on stuff like Islamberg, Paul Williams, The Day of Islam, American Beslan etc.

I don't agree with eevrything he says or all his conclusions but then I don't agree with all of anybody's conclusions.

midnight rider said...

And, you know, what the other 2 nice ladies wrote while I plodded away with my comment at this keyboard :)

Anonymous said...

Jewel -

I don't remember any of that, which is weird, because we had been living in Tulsa just a few years earlier, and I thought I was paying attention!

Definitely getting that book!

Thx,

Ro

Anonymous said...

convicted terrorist Ramzi Yousef and Terry Nichols were in Cebu City in the Philippines at the same time three months before the Oklahoma City bombing. Yousef was the perpetrator of the first World Trade Center attack as well as the mastermind behind the planning of other high-profile attacks on Americans. Furthermore, Ramzi Yousef’s phone records, from the months before he detonated the first World Trade Center bomb in early 1993, show calls placed to the Filipina neighbor and close friend of Terry Nichols’ in-laws in Queens, New York. The opportunity for interaction between American terrorist, Nichols, and al-Qaeda terrorist, Yousef, is evident.

One indicator that this terrorist act had broader implications came directly from Abdul Hakim Murad, Yousef’s roommate, childhood friend, and fellow convicted terrorist. On the day of the bombing, Murad claimed responsibility for this terrorist act from his jail cell in New York. He bragged to his prison guards, verbally and in writing, that the bombing of the Murrah federal building was the work of the “Liberation Army.” His confession was similar to the one Yousef had made two years earlier in the immediate aftermath of the first attempt to destroy the Word Trade Center. Hours after he drove a Ryder truck into the garage of the north tower of the World Trade Center and detonated the deadly bomb, Yousef called the FBI from a pay phone in Newark International Airport and boasted that the “Liberation Army” had conducted the attack. He then boarded a plane and escaped, ending up in Manila, Philippines.

Note: the Oklahoma City Bombing followed a similar pattern to the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center —a rental truck loaded with ammonium-based explosives, using similar detonation devices, based on the strategy of driving a vehicle into or near a target.

Another possibility of Islamic terrorist involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing was pursued by Jayna Davis, a local Oklahoma City television reporter. Davis did extensive research in the immediate and long term aftermath of the crime and concluded that a small group of recent Iraqi émigrés living in the Oklahoma City area helped McVeigh bomb the Murrah building. She documented multiple witnesses who placed Timothy McVeigh with a foreign-looking person (and/or persons) in the days leading up to, as well as the day of, the Oklahoma City bombing. Her witnesses offer substantial support to the theory of a Middle Eastern connection and relate directly to the existence of John Doe Two. The FBI, much to the frustration of some of its own investigators, discarded the possibility of the existence of John Doe Two, two months into the investigation. There are a number of factors, including information provided by Davis, indicating the existence of John Doe Two and a possible Middle Eastern connection.

Note: at the outset of the subcommittee’s investigation, former Oklahoma governor Frank Keating personally requested that the investigation be called off. During his meeting with the subcommittee chairman, Governor Keating mentioned that then- President Bill Clinton had called him only hours after the bombing. According to Keating, President Clinton’s first comment to him after the bombing was “God, I hope there’s no Middle Eastern connection to this.”

This mindset, described by Governor Keating, may or may not have influenced the original Oklahoma City bombing investigators. There were many reasons to believe that there might have been a foreign connection. There should have been no hesitation to investigate and make that determination, even if it would have required a forceful retaliation.

much more at Atlas

Anonymous said...

Just the fact that someone like Nichols would have been in the Philippines at all, much less, several times (per the entry on Altas), would have been enough to make me suspicious had I been investigating. It's not like he was going to Bali, or Sydney for pete's sake. Cebu City???? Travel there would be very time consuming, expensive and it was not exactly the happenin' tourist spot in the 1990's.

Anonymous said...

It was clear almost from the start that in addition to covering up important evidence during its "investigation" of the bombing, the Clinton Reno Justice Department also was using the attack as a springboard to demonize its "right wing" opposition and push for vast, new, unconstitutional police powers in the name of fighting terrorism.
If Congress had conducted a thorough investigation of the Oklahoma City bombing, it not only could have exposed the corruption and conspiracy involved in the Clinton administration's cover-up, but also may have prevented the even more horrendous 9-11 attacks. Members of Congress, however, cowed by the fear of being labeled "anti-government" and "conspiracy wackos" by the administration and the media, abdicated their duty.

Epaminondas said...

Nichols in Cebu City? That golden, lazy, resort for traveling US vacationers? //sarc

Anyone know WHY he says he was there?

Since he's in for life, why wouldn't he come clean for some kind of breaks now? While people like this might come up with reasons hate the feds, it's hard for me to reason out why they would also help Islam triumph over americans who they are trying to free from federal abuses.

Pastorius said...

Damien,
I don't know if I believe all this. The Northeastern Intelligence Network will lay out the evidence.

I do know this. My wife if Filipino, and she has family in Cebu City. When I told her that Nichols had been in Cebu City twice in the year before the bombing, she said, "Oh, then it has to do with the Muslims."

She also said that Cebu City is just a puddle jumper flight away from Mindano, which is the area that the Phillipines ceded to the Muslims.

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Damien said...

shiva,

you wrote,
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It was clear almost from the start that in addition to covering up important evidence during its "investigation" of the bombing, the Clinton Reno Justice Department also was using the attack as a springboard to demonize its "right wing" opposition and push for vast, new, unconstitutional police powers in the name of fighting terrorism.
If Congress had conducted a thorough investigation of the Oklahoma City bombing, it not only could have exposed the corruption and conspiracy involved in the Clinton administration's cover-up, but also may have prevented the even more horrendous 9-11 attacks. Members of Congress, however, cowed by the fear of being labeled "anti-government" and "conspiracy wackos" by the administration and the media, abdicated their duty.
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Do you have anything to backup your assertions? On what grounds do you believe that Clinton or Reno, covered up important evidence? The Clinton administration wasn't exactly the most honest or ethical in American history, but none the less, if you're going to accuse Clinton/Reno of covering up evidence in a criminal investigation to support a political agenda, you should have at least some compelling evidence before you do so. Granted, I won't deny that Clinton and the Democratics used the attack on the federal building to demonize conservatives, because they did, but what do you have to make the case that they were hiding something that could have lead to the conviction of a third individual, and prevented nine eleven, other than your suspicions?

Epaminondas said...

We should remain skeptical.

Proof is required

Right now this reads like GHW Bush flying to Teheran on the eve of the 1980 election in an SR-71 to get the hostages released ...

Pastorius said...

I agree with both Epa and Damien here. As yet, I have seen no credible evidence, and charging a President with ignoring evidence on this scale would be akin to charging him with Treason.

We need real, hard evidence.

And, that means I am going to continue to run the NEIN pieces, unless I decide they are full of shit.

However, they seem like a pretty respectable outfit, from what I know.

midnight rider said...

Thaty's pretty much where I stand as well. This is by no means a closed issue to me, nor a foregone conclusion either way. But I've seem enough here and there over the years that it bears hearing what Hagmann has to say.

Same with Flight 800.

Anonymous said...

Pastorius/Epa

Did you know that there could be a very simple explanation as to why Nicoles went to the Philipines

He was married to a Filipino woman.

Now I have not directly accused Clinton, but the Clinton/Reno administration.

Now if there was not a cover up, then what is this article and thread all about.

The Clinton administration declared that only McVeigh and Nichols were involved and then went to extraordinary lengths to cover up, falsify and destroy evidence, intimidate witnesses and muzzle investigators.

As a result, conspirators in the 1995 OKC bombing were allowed to go free and strike again. And they did--on September 11, 2001. Key operatives in both the OKC and 9-11 attacks also played central roles in other terrorist attacks. One of the primary terror ringleaders could very well be al-Qaeda operative Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who just happens to be Ramzi Yousef’s uncle.

These two where involved also with the following

1995 "Bojinka" plot to hijack multiple airliners and use some of them to ram buildings, such as the World Trade Center: thousands of deaths and injuries averted when Philippines police foiled that plot.

1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania: 224 dead, hundreds injured.

2000 bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen: 17 dead, dozens wounded.

The capture of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed should have caused federal officials, terrorism "experts" and the media to completely rethink and reopen the OKC bombing case. According to charges by federal authorities, Mr. Mohammed was the mastermind who chaired the January 2000 terrorist meeting in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, where the 9-11 attacks were planned.

After the 9-11 attacks, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and top U.S. intelligence officials insisted that they never had a clue that terrorists might try such a daring, fiendish operation. However, as reported repeatedly by THE NEW AMERICAN years before, the plan had been proposed by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed's nephew, Ramzi Yousef, back in 1995.

Ramzi Yousef, the convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, met in the Philippines with Uncle Mohammed, Abdul Hakim Murad--and Terry Nichols, among others. The plan to use commercial jetliners as missiles against the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, the White House and nuclear facilities was detailed on Yousef's laptop computer, which was captured in 1995 by Philippines authorities when Yousef's apartment caught on fire. Yousef's laptop information was given to U.S. authorities, and Philippines law enforcement officials tried to get their American counterparts to take the threat seriously. It was to no avail.

The evidence indicates that Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh, far from master minding the OKC bombing, were "lily whites" recruited by a Middle Eastern terrorist ring involving members of the al-Qaeda, Islamic Jihad and Abu Sayyef groups.

Bearing this in mind and Clinton betrayal of Kosovo, the Clintons should be seriously investigated.

LaTour Genealogical Collection said...

Government and conspiracy is something else. Robert G. Millar the leader of Elohim City, the white ratical racial group in Adair County, Oklahoma is the backbone to the cover up.

Robert G. Millar was born in Canada in 1925. The Government has you and I believing that he died in 2001, but his Social Security Number and Death Record Index shows 2006.


Social Security Death Index

Name: Robert G. Millar
SSN: 725-03-6334
Last Residence: 953 (U.S. Consulate), Canada
Born: 19 May 1925
Died: 28 Oct 2006
State (Year) SSN issued: Railroad Board (Issued Through) (Before 1951 ).



Harrison Thomas LaTour
LaTour Genealogical Collection

Pastorius said...

Damien,
By the way, read the first chapter of Steven Emerson's book American Jihad.

Pastorius said...

Shiva,
What kind of White Supremacist marries a Filipino woman?

Damien said...

Pastorius,

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Damien,
By the way, read the first chapter of Steven Emerson's book American Jihad.
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Okay, maybe I will, but what exactly does it have to do with the Oklahoma City Bombing, and weather or not anyone else was involved?

Pastorius said...

Oklahoma City was and is a hotbed of Jihadist activity. In the first chapter of the book, Emerson describes having walked into the middle of a Jihadist Convention at the Oklahoma City Convention Center on CHRISTMAS DAY.

He found reams of literature instructing Muslims in the ways of Sharia, and the necessity for destroying the U.S. and killing Infidels.

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Damien said...

Pastorius,

I had no idea that place was ever a hot bed of Jihadist activity. The things we don't know can be terrifying, but its far better know what's going on, no matter how much you might wish it weren't true. Thanks for letting me know.

Anonymous said...

Pastorius

What kind of White Supremacist marries a Filipino woman.

I really cannot answer that one, but it puts you and myself into a weird situation. We can find it difficult to prove we are not white Supremacists just because we are married to Filipinos/Indonesians wives, if some-one points out that Nicoles was married to Marife Torres,a 17 year old high school girl from Cebu City.

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Pastorius said...

Shiva,
Why did you remove the other comment about the trial. That was pretty interesting stuff. Apparently, Nichols may have murdered his wife's first child.

A lot of men believe that Filipino wives are "submissive". Nothing could be further from the truth.

The truth is, Filipinas are pretty much in charge in the Philippines. In fact, of course, the Philippines is one of the few countries in the world to have ever elected female women to run their country. Most Filipino households of which I am aware are either dominated by the woman, or, as in my case, have a very shared and even domestic situation. My wife runs her own business, and I run mine.

Nichols comment, "The young ones are easier to train" betrays, at best, a tremendous naiivete about the nature of Filipinas. Good luck with that one, Terry, and notice she would not lie for you on the stand.

I get very tired of the misconceptions, and flat out racists assumptions about Filipinas.

I know nothing about Indonesian women.

Anonymous said...

Pastorius said.

Why did you remove the other comment about the trial. That was pretty interesting stuff. Apparently, Nichols may have murdered his wife's first child.

I took it out so as it could go on to the main page, and is now sitting as a draft, also I not to sure if it is relevant.

Like you I also get tired of the misconceptions of Asian women, not only Filipinos, but Thais and Indonesians.

In fact I find that most women here in Asia are more liberated than western women who have imprisoned them selves with womens liberation and equal rights.

Lets not forget both in Indonesia and the Philippines have have women presidents, something that America cannot boast.

Pastorius said...

And, of course, India has also elected female leaders.