"Yes, Mr. Zawahiri, I'd like you to shove it this far up my ass, please."
Wow! I'm glad to see Zombie is as worked up over Stephen Breyer's criticism of Koran-burning as I am.
From PJM:
Terrorism works.
Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer proved this once again yesterday when he caved in to terrorist threats — or rather, the potentiality of terrorist threats — and in the process demonstrated how rickety the main support beam of our Constitution is, at least while people like Breyer are sitting on the bench.
In an interview with George Stephanopoulos, Breyer implied that the First Amendment may not protect speech that inflames the passions of violent people halfway across the globe:
Last week we saw a Florida Pastor — with 30 members in his church — threaten to burn Korans which lead to riots and killings in Afghanistan. We also saw Democrats and Republicans alike assume that Pastor Jones had a Constitutional right to burn those Korans. But Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer told me on “GMA” that he’s not prepared to conclude that — in the internet age — the First Amendment condones Koran burning.Here’s their exchange (taken from the video on the page linked above), after Stephanopolous introduces the Koran-burning case and how it relates to free speech:
Stephanopolous: The conversation is now global.Breyer is implying here that in the Internet age, the entire digitally connected world is one vast crowded theater, and whoever says anything to cause a mass panic, or a violent reaction anywhere on Earth could be violating the “don’t yell ‘FIRE!’ in a crowded theater” exception to the Constitutional principle of free speech.
Breyer: Indeed. And you can say with the Internet, you can say this: Holmes said it doesn’t mean you can shout ‘fire’ in a crowded theater. Well, what is it? Why? Because people will be trampled to death. And what is the ‘crowded theater’ today? What is ‘being trampled to death’?
There are so many things wrong with this line of thinking that I hardly know where to begin. Off the top of my head:
Should the Behaviors or Opinions of Non-Citizens Have Any Bearing on the US?
The behavior, or possible future behavior, of people outside the United States should have no bearing whatsoever on our laws or on the interpretation of our Constitution.
Down this road lies the complete extirpation of our national sovereignty.
Should we jettison the Second Amendment because other countries ban guns and disapprove of our gun-happy society? Should we abandon even having national borders because so many foreigners want to violate our immigration laws? And, most pointedly, should we allow the threats of irrational mobs in the mountains of Pakistan to influence one iota the legal structure of our nation?
Justice Breyer thinks so, apparently.
Jihad is Not a Natural Phenomenon
The “crowded theater” example refers specifically to a situation whereby false or misleading speech can lead to accidental or unintentional death or injury due to the undirected behavior of a panicked crowd. Under this principle, to cite a well-known example, Orson Welles could have theoretically been charged with disturbing the peace for his infamous 1938 War of the Worlds broadcast which convinced many terrified Americans that we had been invaded by Martians (had in fact anyone been injured in the ensuing panic — luckily, no one was, and Welles was never charged). But that is an entirely different animal from speech which may incite some malefactor to take offense and potentially cause harm. For example, would it be illegal to stand up in Yankee Stadium and yell “Go Red Sox!” if by so doing you incited Yankees fans to start punching Bostonians? Wouldn’t the assailants be the ones to blame, not the Red Sox fan? Would it be illegal to praise Martin Luther King Jr. at a KKK rally, because you may incite the Klan members to attack innocent black bystanders? Wouldn’t it be a bit more logical to arrest the KKK members who committed the violence rather than the person whose statement pissed them off?
You Can’t Yell Fire in a Crowded Internet
If we take Breyer’s argument to its conclusion, then any word spoken, or any action taken, anywhere in America, could be considered to have taken place on the global stage for a global audience, because, by golly, someone could record it on their iPhone, upload it to YouTube, it could go viral, and within 10 minutes a million enraged Muslims are calling for a global jihad — all because you wrote the letters “K-O-R-A-N” on a scrap of paper and tossed it into your backyard barbecue pit, as your tipsy drinking buddy filmed it. This would mean the end of the presumption of privacy, as the existence of a globally interconnected world transforms anything you do or say anywhere, in any setting, into a potential “public” act. Breyer is suggesting that not only are you forbidden from yelling “FIRE!” in a crowded theater, you can’t yell “FIRE!” anywhere, because word might reach the theater that someone somewhere yelled “FIRE!”
Where exactly do you draw the line, if Breyer’s principle is applied? As Ed Morrisey insightfully pointed out at Hot Air, “Breyer’s argument would put government in charge of judging the qualitative value of all speech.” And that’s the first step (and the second and third step as well) toward totalitarianism.
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I might not have blogged about this very item if I knew you would give it such complete coverage (I should have known...).
http://symbolic-mirage.blogspot.com/2010/09/with-whimper.html
It's obscene that a Supreme Court Justice would make such a statement. For me it's up there with the statement made by Justice Tawney in the Dread Scott Case: "A black man has no rights that a white man is bound to respect."
I wish someone could explain what the hell the constitution has to do with what someone in Waziristan is doing?
Are we a world govt now?
Did I miss something?
I ... cannot ... speak. Cause, I'm shaking here, angry shaking. I am going to have to stop watching and reading the news cause it is affecting my health.
A Yankees fan punching out a Red Sox fan who gets up and yells "Go Sox!" in the middle of a crowded Yankee Stadium is not a "fire in a crowded theater" equivalent. It is a TRADITION. (Ditto for yelling "Go Yanks!" at Fenway.)
Just the fact that this is being discussed in these terms is very ominous. (In fact, I'm surprised they haven't made more out of whatever violent reactions there have been, such as that apparent Sudden Jihad-Anarchist Mutant attack on that dean in Kansas City.)
PS: Does our new PASTO cartoon over on the right-hand column there remind anybody else of the totally gross bathroom mirror scene from "Poltergeist"?
WELL IT DOES ME!
Yuck.
Man, I don't remember that scene.
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