Sunday, December 17, 2006

YouTube censorship

This was brought to my attention by someone from my YouTube friends list.

If you have a YouTube profile and have posted anti-Islamic or anti-jihad videos, enter your user name into the search field, and much to your surprise it will bring you the "No Videos found for 'user name'" message.

But if you've been posting pro-Islamic and pro-jihad videos, then the search result will display all of your videos.

I check it out, it's true. Here are links to my YouTube profiles (EyeOnTheWorld and EyeOnTheWorld2), both of them have the above mentioned anti-jihad videos, and here are links to search result pages for profile 1 and profile 2. They come out empty.

I also checked out a couple of YouTube jihadist profiles, and what do you know? Their search result pages are filled with their videos.

What the hell is going on at YouTube?

Crossposted at EyeOnTheWorld.

24 comments:

Always On Watch said...

It's censorship.

Watch for more of same.

Watcher said...

It sure is. They are censoring us but are giving the green light to the enemy.

Wes Messamore said...

Whoa... hold on there. I would agree that YouTube's actions show them for the cowardly, idiotic dhimmis that they are, but the use of the word "censorship" here is a misnomer. Censorship is the violation of free speech through forcible suppression.

YouTube is a privately-owned company with a privately-owned website, so they can show and not show, allow and not allow whatever they want, even to further their anti-freedom, anti-Western, anti-rational douche-baggery.

Let me emphasize once again that I criticize their actions. I just hate to see the term "censorship" misused. Is that a fair assertion?

Watcher said...

Well, YouTube obviously uses filtering to one-sidedly suppress the free speech.

As for the privately owned, as you know, virtually all the media in the US is privately owned. During the election season, all media sources are obligated to give equal representation to all candidates regardless of their political affiliation.

Pastorius said...

I think We. Messamore is right, Watcher.

The proper term for YouTube is Dhimmi cocksuckers.

Wes Messamore said...

Rights by their nature do not confer obligations on others, except that they do not interfere. Your right to free speech does not imply that YouTube, CNN, or the New York Times are obligated to provide you with the means to spread your words. That is why it is a misnomer to call YouTube's actions "censorship" or to say that they are suppressing free speech.

The reason I am being picky about this, is because if we accept your premise that YouTube's actions are a violation of your freedom of speech, then it follows that government has a legitimate interest (the interest of protecting your freedom of speech) in compelling YouTube to modify its search results and/or to allow videos that it would rather not allow.

This is how your premise wreaks intellectual havoc on the concepts of rights, freedom, censorship, (etc.) and when concepts such as these are not understood as clearly as possible, only trouble will follow.

Anonymous said...

thanks google-NOT

Watcher said...

W. E. Messamore,

Fro the legal standpoint, you're right of course.

Pastorius said...

Wealthy Muslim,
No, we'll just do to you guys what we have done time and again through history; throw you the hell out of our countries.

How do you feel being a part of a civilization which produces nothing but black slime from the underground? How do you feel about the fact that we Westerners even had to build your fucking oil wells for you, because you're system is such that you're people are too stupid and lazy to do anything themselves?

The whole Arab world only produced 300 patentable ideas in the entire decade of the 1990's, and one of those ideas was the buzzing prayer rug. The little tiny country of South Korea produced 16,000 patentable ideas in the same time period.

You're civilization is weak, and pathetic and that is why you always lose and always will.

The only thing you can do is use our technology against us, but when it comes right down to hand to hand, you will all lose just as you always have throughout history.

But then, you probably don't even know anything about history.

Wes Messamore said...

Watcher,

So we can both agree that YouTube's action is not an act of censorship or a suppression of free speech, just an act of cowardice and a suppression of their own reasoning minds?

mts said...

Pastorius,

You said in eight simple sentences what it is all about. If a critical mass of people realized this, the battle would be nearly won before it even begins. The problem is that as of now, the vast uninformed masses know as little about Islam as they do about non-Newtonian fluids. But they sure as hell know about the championing of the "victimized", any non-w.a.s.p. group that has the cohesion to form an advocate group (cair) and make a laundry list of grievances. Someone who punches you, then accuses you of abuse because you broke his hand with your thick, "racist" skull. And the liberals, of whom there are many, defend those who, if Islam was law, would surely put each of them on the gallows under sharia law.

But as far as Islam losing as it always did throughout history, I have to disagree. That system has a 1400 year old history of grinding into the dirt the advanced civilizations that it conquered, only flourishing in the first centuries of conquest, when the populations were still quite non-Muslim, then slowly declining as the people were slowly mugged into submission. We all eeked out survival at the Gates of Vienna and in many other lucky battles when the threat was beaten back, not negotiated away. This isn't a battle of who is smarter or which system is better for its people. It's over who is the biggest bully, and they built the perfect mafia. China's a tougher s.o.b. than the ummah for now, so it's not bothered. But we're horrified if an enemy combatant doesn't have enough shade or a hallal diet in Cuba. Quadaffi was as tough a talker as Ahmadinejad, yet he quickly turned over his war program once he saw Saddam fall, and for some reason, thought he might be next on the downfall list.

Power doesn't give a damn if truth speaks to it or not. Only power can talk to power. And only when the public stops being more squeamish about seeing the enemy die than their own troops die can we in the West expect to win this thing. Seeing what total bastards the enemies are is crucial, for it'll dry out any sympathy for them. But YouTube isn't helping with this. It appears to be peopled by the liberals to whom I referred.

Watcher said...

W. E. Messamore,

In a way. They are still censoring, whether they are doing it to us or to themselves. Suppression is censorship, no matter how we try explain it.

Pastorius said...

mts,
We are meaner than the Islamofascists as well. It just takes us awhile to get started.

Once we feel like our back is up against the wall, we will fight. I have no doubt of that.

Kiddo said...

I shouldn't push my luck, but I'm still holding out for some reason. The goon squad just shows up to leave comments/threats. Atlas is OK too. SOUTALKUFFAR is hanging in there as well, but we're being weeded out. I just act insane so I think I'm getting the Howling Mad Murdock treatment. Damn, I love the A-Team.

On the plus side, if you can stick around and you tag your videos insightfully, yours will come up as "related videos" next to all of the CAIR (bedier) ones. Same for me and SOUTALKUFFAR both. It's a hoot. Knock on wood.

I'm not trying to blow off this post, BTW. For the most part it is completely true. I think I get by solely because my last few videos are only political if you hate "fanvids" and people who dress like pirates. But most people I know are on their 3rd or beyond accounts there.

mts said...

Yup, but of course he's proud of his thug system. He's not going to be ashamed of his pathetic civilization until it is vanquished, any more than a Third Reich national would be ashamed of the Nazis until it became apparent that they not only destroyed the nation, but gave it a shame to endure for generations. Remember the throng filled streets of Hitler motorcades, and 200,000 attendance Nuremberg fests.

I'm sure we'll eventually be mean enough to walk through the Valley of Darkness and fear no evil, for we will be the toughest s.o.b.'s in the Valley, but I shudder to think of what terrible things will befall us before the minds turn. And how wounded we'll be when we need strength.

Btw, I wonder if there's other video posting sites besides YouTube that are more non-p.c. for pajama-clad bloggers to use. If so, stop using YouTube just because everyone else does. "My mama told me, you better shop around." Then the market can do its work, and the freer place will suck hits from YouTube, and they'll get hurt in the pocket by their politics. And the worthier place will prosper, in return.

Pastorius said...

Pajamas Media ought to start an alternative video site.

Watcher said...

PG,

I tagged my Response to Ummah Films' "Vlog #9: Who hijacked Islam??!" exactly as the original is tagged, and it appears right next to it. And boy do I get nasty comments from the followers of the Religion of Peace™. :-)
I'm surprised no one had flagged it yet, though the bastards rate it as 1-star.

Kiddo said...

Watcher, I have one video flagged, and it's the one where I talk about my Apple IIc and People Magazine's "hottest people" issue. I don't even bother to protest. I even left up an annoyinng video and changed the decription to state that I had left it up just to annoy people.

There's a group that one of my accounts belongs to that is a jihadi group. They discuss all of our videos and various muslim crap. It's highly amusing.

As for YouTube, I plan to pirate first all of my favorite music and other such videos instead of not using the site. The anti-jihadi presence is important there to counter the idiots. But I do upload to two different sites lately if the videos are about islam.

Kiddo said...

Wow, actually a search for Pamela only turns up a video response from "eshkandar", and only then because he put her user name in his tags. My crap still shows up. That's weird.

OK, I'm going to work double-time to steal all of their crap now. God bless TubeSock, the gift that keeps on giving.

Watcher said...

PG, I have 2 of my videos flagged and one was pulled which prompted me to create the second profile and repost it. And I too upload my videos to 2 sites - YouTube and Google Video.

Anonymous said...

I have some news which may be relevent to this discussion. The you tube flagging policy is the problem I fear. There is a Muslim group on you tube who make it their business to "flag as inappropriate" any video that they do not like. This is why the videos disappear off lists.

British fighter Britney British has made a video outlining the problem and it can be seen at this link. Think you may have to lobby you tube to change their flagging system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEHu_uf3vMw

Hope this is of use.

Pastorius said...

Britney British needs to explain why she supports the BNP, or we will not be in support of anything she does.

Watcher said...

Anonymous,

I checked out the article at the Jawa Report, and what do you know... I'm on the list of those to be flagged (bottom of the list - EyeOnTheWorld2).

But still no fatwa on my head. :-)

Anonymous said...

I am a member of the group known as Anonymous and recently a similar situation has arisen with Youtube suppressing pro-Anonymous/Anti-Scientology videos.

In this case view counters for these videos were frozen for 48 hours in order to prevent videos from making it to the front page.