Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Soros-J Street's (Anti AIPAC) breathaking WaPo Published Fallacies -


In a column of assumptive 'fact', bereft of url's (or citations) for proof, the straw man/red herring J Street's Jeremy Ben Ami lards out the party line of delusionary danger.

5 Myths on Who's Really 'Pro-Israel'
1. American Jews choose to back candidates largely on the basis of their stance on Israel.
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polls show that most American Jews say they favor a more balanced U.S. Middle East policy that's aimed at achieving peace.

Hmmmmm, according to the PEACE ORGANIZATION Brit Tzedk V'Shalom HERE
Poll: 81% of U.S. Jews believe Arabs want to destroy Israel
The annual survey by the American Jewish Committee shows widespread belief that the Arabs' true aim is to destroy Israel, while 38% of respondents thought that the conflict with the Palestinians could be resolved peacefully.
Now I have little argument that Americans who happen to be jewish have a panoply of issues to help them articulate their vote, and I KNOW FOR A FACT that many dislike an Israel which they think complicates their lives, and acts in a manner THEY find uncomfortable to defend. I know for a fact that the idea that jews in this world (might just) NEED Israel is a disturbing element in the lives of such people. These are the people who also believe that Iran is no threat and in not 'invading' anyone recently proves it had no interest in nukes, and can be deterred anyway.

More....

The AJC poll found that 46 percent of American Jews answered affirmatively when asked, "In the current situation, do you favor or oppose the establishment of a Palestinian state?" Forty-three percent said they were opposed and 12 percent were not sure. Last year, the findings were 54 percent in favor, 38 percent against and 9 percent not sure.

What makes the drop more striking is the telephone survey of 1,000 Jewish Americans took place Nov. 6-25, in the lead-up to the U.S.-convened Israeli-Palestinian peace talks in Annapolis, Md.

If the number of Americans who happen to be jewish and believe there should be a Palestinian state is now a minority and dropping, how will that affect their votes when the policy of the USA is different? UNKNOWN

At any rate, Israel is not the only issue for any american who happens also to be a jew, but it is an issue of varying importance, to some VERY important, at the level of NATO's importance to the US in 1949. An important ally, and elevating past that to some, a place which they might need, to depart to, one fine day, in accordance with 3000 years of real world history.

2.To be strong on Israel, you have to be harsh to the Palestinians.
As long as Palestinians despair of a decent and dignified life, Israel will be at war.
As long as the Palestinians elect HAMAS and the holocaust minimizer Abbas they are telling the world something. There can be NO ISRAEL. There can be no justice if Israel exists, and the reason is completely and utterly religious. This complete delusion that Israel faces a political situation which can be ameliorated via negotiating with these people as if they are the United Mine Worker's Union is the arrogant anthropocentric dream of westernized refusal to accept other as serious and with meaning. This is the SCHWERPUNCT of the entire 'peace' movement. When the Palestinian peoples themselves reject these kinds of leaders and outright murderers not only will peace be in the offing but movement towards it will occur quickly. However as long as these people we see now hold the confidence via votes of the Palestinians because they understand that to the Palestinian peoples the Quranic return to the orange groves of Jaffa on a river of blood, is what is wanted, no peace is possible, nor is there much to discuss. We should be directing all efforts towards helping those Palestinians who DO want peace organize and form up without fear of being murdered as apostates and collaborators ...something which, since the ascendancy of Haj Amin al Husseini after 1920, it should be noted, HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

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