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Wednesday, November 19, 2008


We ran this story the other day, but it was from Debka, which I don't trust, so I didn't make that big a deal of it. But, now the BBC is reporting that Zawahiri is calling Obama out on the truth;

that he is the son of a Muslim father, who has converted to Christianity, and therefore, he is an apostate.

Of course, the BBC does not frame the story that way, either because they don't understand, or more likely, because they don't want to tell the truth,

Zawahiri also criticised Mr Obama - whose father is Muslim - for betraying the Islamic world.

"You were born to a Muslim father, but you chose to stand in the ranks of the enemies of the Muslims, and pray the prayer of the Jews, although you claim to be Christian, in order to climb the rungs of leadership in America," he said.

Mr Obama was not an "honourable black American" like Malcolm X, he said, but an "abeed al-beit" - a word that translates as house slave but was rendered "house negro" in the message's English subtitles.

The audio was accompanied by footage of a speech by Malcolm X in which he distinguished between "field negroes" who hated their white masters and "house negroes" who, he said, were loyal to them.

The Arabic word Zawahiri used is "murtad", which literally translates as Apostate.

In Islam, an Apostate is subject to be stoned to death.

This proclamation by Zawahiri amouths to a death threat against Obama.

UPDATE: I have now seen video of the Zawahiri message. I did not hear the word "murtad", though Debka reported that that was the word used. Still, the message Zawahiri gives is clear, Obama is the son of a Muslim who has turned on the Ummah.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

And you thought those guys at al-KK don't have a sense of humor.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:52:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...


These guys have no clue about america.

They have learned nothing.

I am sure that the audience this is intended for is over there, but calling the guy who might be a little softer a house n*gger, apostate muslim is nothing short of delicious.

It's nice to see the enemy make a catastrophic error with the new president.

Maybe Zawahiri will be like ebola, deadly but burns itself out by its very lethality.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:57:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


I'm actually kind of glad to hear this. This may make it less likely that Obama will try to reason with them.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:06:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...

By the way, I really don't like Obama, but I don't want to see him assassinated, by anyone, including Jihadists.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:09:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Damien and Epa,
I agree, this is a big mistake, and no decent American wants to see their President called a house nigger, and no decent American wants to see their President assassinated.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:16:00 pm  
Blogger 1Trader said...

Good comments here, I aggressively oppose Obama because of his politics, I also believe he won the POTUS through fraud; but his race is irrelevant and these primitive terrorists show their real beliefs which are poisoned by racism and bigotry.

It is they who cower in hiding and live like goats, clearly Obama has them in fear. If nothing else, he is an example to Muslims everywhere that if you abandon the primitive beliefs Islam you can achieve success. They find this very threatening.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:34:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Well put, Bagua.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:54:00 pm  
Blogger midnight rider said...

No American wants to see the president assassinated, regardless of your political difference. (Indicted for campaign fraud sure. for voter fraud absolutely). & the racial epithets are wrong. But we've most all been saying they would look at him as an apostate and that would be a real problem. Secret Service is, unfortunately, going to have it's hands full for a very long time because of this. (naively?) hopefully A.Q. won't try anything. And if they do they are stopped because if not it will be more than Obama they take with them.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:20:00 pm  
Blogger Epaminondas said...

'living like goats'...LOL!

That's ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-d !

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:15:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As frustrating as it can be at times to wage ant-jihad, imagine what it must be like for the stealth jihadists. You spend all your time and money doing something big and important like assimilating the UN to make it into an even more perfect Israel/Jew/free-speech brick, and some asshat fast jihadist (with standing) comes out and discredits the whole organization as islamophobic. You spend all your effort getting possibly the most islamofriendly president of all time elected, and the fast jihadists discredit him as an islamohostile House-Boy. You laboriously fill a whole cargo ship with radioactive dust to irradiate your "Zionist Entity", and muslim pirates hijack it en-route. You carefully bait a trap to catch 5/6 US troops by surrounding them with twenty of your own, and they shoot your Iranian ambush to fuc*ing shreds.

Did you guys all see that video where islamodaddy hands his toddler the loaded pistol during their dancing hatefest? Crikey, I practically fell off of my chair laughing.

May you live in entertaining times folks.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:17:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

I haven't seen that video.

I'd like to though.

By the way, good points about Zawahiri pulling the rug out from underneath his followers.


It's true. They must think to themselves, "What could we do to please this mofo? If we blew up Israel, he'd probably say, "Couldn't you have left the Temple Mount standing?"

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:22:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He used the term "Abd"(slave) not Murtad

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:29:00 pm  
Blogger midnight rider said...

For those who haven't seen it, here's the video mentioned above of the toddler shooting the man.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:55:00 pm  
Blogger midnight rider said...

Help if I put the link in http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2008/11/video-iraqi-fires-his-weapon-during-wedding-hands9mm-glockto-toddlerhilarity-ensues.html

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:55:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

What does it mean for Zawahiri to call Obama a slave? That's not exactly tantamount to calling for his death, is it?

Do you, however, agree with my characterization of this speech by Zawahiri as calling Obama an apostate?

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:07:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


Now that I think about it, I do remember my mom telling me she heard about a sixty minutes interview where Obama specifically said he was going to do everything he could as president to wipe Al qeada off the face of the earth. Do think that maybe that has something to do with Zawahiri being so angry at him?

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:24:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Was that the interview from this past Sunday night?

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:28:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


I don't know, I didn't see it, and neither did my mom. She just heard Bill_Handel mention it on his radio program.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:35:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Ok, yeah I know who Bill Handel is. KFI AM 640

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:43:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


Well, I just wanted to make sure, just in case you or someone else didn't know. I'm sorry I'm not sure when the interview took place.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:47:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Obama has been surpisingly forthright in some of his condemnations of terrorists in recent weeks.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:48:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Zawahiri manages to say exactly the wrong thing at exactly the wrong time. Two exactly wrong things, in fact.

In terms of cultivating relations not only with the Islamo-friendly but with everybody short of committed wackjob jihadists like himself he couldn't possibly have said anything more repellent. No wonder Obama said he intended to clean AQ's clock on "60 Minutes".

Mind you, Z (and OBL) obviously wanted Obama to win the election or he would have put his foot in his mouth last month instead of now. These guys are serious about "apostasy" but refrained from denouncing BHO during the campaign, though they did "support" McCain. Did they want to avoid the chance that Americans would shy away from electing a president with a target painted on him? And while it is a translation, note that Z did not say "you chose to become a Christian". Did he use the word "Murtad" or not? He points out that Obama's father was Muslim, then essentially accuses him of claiming to be a Christian and sucking up to Christians and Jews to win the election. Is AQ trying to undercut Obama's own standing with Americans? If so, They're Doin' It Rong.

What everyone may have lost track of, to one extent or the other, is that stealth jihad is just a little cheaper than spit to "fast" jihadists. OBL may be patient, but he wants to see the infidels not just subjugated but dead as well. He got himself a fatwa for nuclear attacks and claims the right to kill 10 million Americans.

I would love to have seen Obama's gut reaction to this, because he has to be genuinely outraged. Questioning his religion during the campaign was an issue of security and loyalties. This is sheer threat and insult. It is a taste of what a real enemy is, not just someone you suspect is thinking un-pc thoughts about you. I hope he rips them a new one. It will do him good to really have to stand up as an American and tell these maggots where to go.

I feel bad for those two little girls of his though. I don't suppose there is any way they won't find out that daddy has been targeted by men who do things like fly planes into buildings. Sucks.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:52:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


He won't be able to shut up Zawahiri without doing something that I think even he would know would upset the American people too much.
Zawahiri's boys may try to kill Obama, but he has the secret service protecting him now. I have a good feeling that his daughters will be safe.

Yet I have to admit, I understand your concern for his girls. Even if it weren't for the Jihadists, there are other people who want their father dead and might kill them in the process.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:16:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


And ah, don't forget these guys

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:36:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If he used the word for apostate -- murtad -- then it's a death threat to Obama. Otherwise it is a gross insult and yet another death threat to Americans in general. I notice Z threw in the "we have warned you" line yet again. This begins to sound more like part of the "test" scenario with the requisite contemptuous warning. If AQ is still on the pot by the day after the inauguration I may become a convert to the idea that they shot their wad on 9/11/01 and they have not been successful in setting up the oft-promised "American Hiroshima" gig. (Of course meanwhile Mr. Shiite Mahdi Welcome Wagon in Iran is still right on schedule.)

You'd have thought these people learned something about just making us mad. Just assassinating Obama would make us even madder. In fact I suspect that would make some people screw-Pakistan-nuke-the-AQ-hideout-NOW mad.

It still sounds like this is part of the walk-up to their next try at a major attack. If they are thwarted and/or it fizzles/nothing happpens/they just manage to blow up a truck somewhere, their stock is going to sink so fast it will make the Dow look healthy.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:18:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Interesting, RRA. You're having some of the same thoughts I've been having.

Who woulda thunk?

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:21:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heh, even stopped clocks...

I found the entire English translation over at http://www.sweetness-light.com/ and frankly it sounds like a lot of hot air. Obama's election means you know you lost the Iraq war yadda yadda but he's a house n***** anyway yadda yadda the Afghan Muslims will feed you to the dogs yadda yadda you bombed a wedding party yadda yadda conspiracies and betrayals yadda yadda the Ummah will triumph over the Crusaders yadda yadda... and, interestingly enough, no explicit threat of a major attack.

Sounds like somebody having a shit fit to me.

Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:41:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Arabs are quite racist and despise blacks. In fact, as I understand it, Arabs believe that blacks are, by race, destined to be slaves.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:31:00 am  
Blogger Damien said...

Always On Watch,

And liberals often act like the only racists around are white Europeans.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:01:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Black people would do well to understand that, AOW.

In Sudan the Arabs have been actively committing genocide against blacks for 25 years.

They also enslave the black women and rape them.

And the black people i know don't even know about it.

Fucking pathetic.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:39:00 am  
Blogger Damien said...


I think its worse than pathetic.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:19:00 am  
Blogger agonzalez1 said...

What is a Ummah?

Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:21:00 am  
Blogger Damien said...


I think the term means the whole of the Islamic world. But I'm not sure.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:02:00 am  
Blogger agonzalez1 said...

Thanks...btw...love the blog.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:52:00 am  
Blogger WATCHER71 said...

AOW, thanks for making that point, Damien, this Liberal most certainly does NOT think that, indeed this Liberal has been decrying the horrific levels of explicit racism that come from Arab, Indian, Pakistani and Islamic cultures for some time. Nobody has the market cornered when it comes to racism. don't generalize all Liberals as being pathetic limp wristed PC, can't hurt a flower....let alone bomb the living piss out of OB and freinds....

Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:10:00 pm  
Blogger WATCHER71 said...

All the best , by the way...

Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:11:00 pm  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

I've said from the moment that I estimated that BHO would win the election that the Arab world would be pissed to see an African as the leader of the most powerful nation on earth. Just by dint of his race, BHO is dirty in the eyes of the Arab world, particularly Moslems who hate Africans.

Oh sure, they'd use him to advance their agenda. But they'll never ever respect him. They want to see him dead or a slave. Mark my words.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:46:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


I'm not saying that all liberals are pathetic limb wristed and PC. For one thing, I think if FDR could come back and saw how many modern liberals behave, he would have a temper tantrum. Than there's the modern verses classical liberal. But when I talk about liberals, I tend to mean the modern socialist kind, rather than the classical libertarian variety.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:07:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


By the way, what kind of liberal do you define yourself as?

Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:08:00 pm  
Blogger WATCHER71 said...

Lol, Libertarian although perhaps by your standards, a modern Liberal who you would probably call a Socialist... even though I am not.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:39:00 pm  
Blogger Damien said...


glad to hear that. I think I'm a sort of conservative/libertarian/ultra realist.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:44:00 pm  

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