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Sunday, August 29, 2010

Is Jeffrey Imm An Anti-Semite?

I don't think so.

However, he is a really strange guy, obsessed with appearing to attempt to right every wrong in the world whether he understands it or not, and so he is now featured in our sidebar.

"But, but, but I implored Pamela Geller ... "
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Blogger Pastorius said...

I think Jeffrey Imm probably IS an anti-Semite, but I can't be sure.

Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:23:00 pm  
Anonymous george said...

The latest Jew to face Imm's smear campaign is Marty Peretz. Notice Imm is attacking him four days after Peretz apologized for this exact phrasing! Who does that? Who attacks someone for something they already apologized for four days later? Creepy people who target Jews. That's who.

http://realhumanrights.wordpress.com/2010/09/17/taliban-helped-by-anti-islam/

http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-spine/77607/martin-peretz-apology

Friday, September 17, 2010 5:27:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Jeffrey Imm may not be an anti-Semite (though, of that, I can not be sure), but he certainly is a Pussy.

Friday, September 17, 2010 8:22:00 pm  
Anonymous george said...

Look who's posing as a Muslim now. Mr. Free Speech (snicker)

http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/2010/09/statement-on-free-speech-by-mu.html#comments

Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:12:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

I wonder if Jeffrey Imm knows that Islam stipulates that Muslims ought to live by the rules UNTIL THEY BECOME A MAJORITY. Then they are to enact Sharia law.

That's Islam.

I've interviewed Robert Salaam on more than one occasion. He is not a moderate Muslim, though that is his pose.

The company Imm keeps is pathetic, and his will to intellectual self-deceit is evidence of an immense cowardice.

Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:54:00 pm  
Anonymous george said...

A new Jew for Imm to attack is David Horowitz. Front Page Magazine apparently had a commenter that said something awful. Needless to say, since a comment got through that was inappropriate, Horowitz, whom I think we are all well aware is a Jew, is to be smeared as a car bomber. I kid you not. Imm has attenpted to link David Horowitz's Front Page Magazine to support to car bombing.

http://realhumanrights.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/nyc-anti-islam-death-threats/

The right thing to do in such circumstances is for all of us (who are M.O.T., at least) to curb our positions on Islam.

Btw -- for Imm-types reading this, the fact that I mentioned David Horowitz does NOT make me a supporter of car bombers also. I just want to clarify that at the onset.

Monday, September 27, 2010 12:41:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Thanks for keeping us up to date on this stuff.

Jeffrey Imm seems to be losing his mind, a la the portly pony-tailed blogger.

Monday, September 27, 2010 3:29:00 am  
Anonymous Jeffrey Imm said...

The out of context quote was taken when I wrote to John Press about his blindness regarding the BNP, and I stated "I am well-aware that you are Jewish. This is all the more embarrassing that you question whether or not BNP is 'racist' when its leader called the Holocaust the 'Holohoax.'"
http://bbc.in/ufUFy

Mr. Pastorius thinks this image of me is pretty, well sadly, the joke is on him. It was used by a member of the Neo-Nazi National Vanguard in a hit piece on me.

I am not anti-semitic, and I am a long time public defender of Israel and Jews around the world.

Friday, October 08, 2010 11:43:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Yeah, and I didn't say you're anti-Semitic. I do think you are strange.

I think you behave in a very foolish manner when you waste your time with shit like this, Jeffrey.

And, your criticisms of John Press come from a place of total ignorance.

Why don't you try reading John's book and get yourself out of your hippie paradigm.

Saturday, October 09, 2010 1:01:00 am  
Anonymous george said...

OMG-D,

http://realhumanrights.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/nyc-why-a-debate-on-islam/

Take a look at Imm's newest post. It looks like a who's who of Scarsdale!

The Rosenkranz Foundation is under attack.

The Jewish Week.

Gary Rosenblatt.

Commentary.

And...a "reader" of the Jewish Week. (Why won't that community newspaper shut off all comments like Imm does? Better safe than sorry, Jews!)

And the debate was covered. HOW DARE THEY COVER A DEBATE!

At least Imm has made some quality new friends. He is now buddying around with the former leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir

Oh, it's okay, he real moderate now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quilliam_Foundation

And good for Imm for demanding the silencing of Hirsi Ali in this "debate"...after all, what does she know? She's "NOT A SCHOLAR"!

Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:05:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a prominent Israel advocate, I can tell you that Imm seems increasingly dedicated to weakening our defenses. We don't have numbers, and if Imm has his way, we won't have ideas either. Well...what will we have?

Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:53:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

george,
Thanks for keeping me up to date on Jeffrey Imm's increasingly bizarre behavior.

In his reason "column"/statement, he seems to be making the case that we ought not debate the question of whether Islam is a religion of peace because it would hurt the feelings of Muslims and it would hurt our image around the world.

What about truth? It seems to me the questions and points raised in a debate are subject to scrutiny, and the purpose of the debate is to find ideas which have strength, or, in other words, ideas which are true.

Look at Jeffrey Imm's comments:

"One can only wonder how a debate effectively on the legitimacy of Islam as a religion was received in other areas of the world as yet another negative view of America’s religious freedom. How can Americans be surprised at hostility by Muslims in other parts of the world, when we see no problem with such “debates”?"

My comment: If Islam is not a religion of peace, then why should we care about the feelings of Muslims if we come to believe that it is not? The feelings of Muslims would be unfairly hurt, however, if we came to believe, falsely, that Islam is a religion of violence, and then, treated Muslims in general badly because of our conclusion. However, if we treat Muslims decently, on an individual level, even while we hold a general dislike for their religion, which we may believe is not a religion of peace, then, once again, what does it matter if the feelings of Muslims are hurt? Do we not have a right to think ideas through, and come to conclusions? Of course we do.

More Imm: "The larger principle of our support for religious freedom compels us to question those who would unilaterally demonize all adherents to a religion, when practitioners of such a religion are facing discriminatory action by those who seek to deny their freedom of religion and worship."

Pastorius comment: No, we don't demonize all adherents, if we decide that a religious ideology is not peaceful. The behavior of the individuals is key to judging the individuals. If the individuals live lives of peace, then they are decent people. HOWEVER, if they continue to give Zakat in Mosques where Jihad/hatred of the Infidel is preached, then they are not peaceful. That is what matters on an individual level.

If you knew a Christian who attended a church where they preached that Homosexuals need to be murdered by Christian mujahadeen, and the church took up collection for the mujahadeen, and your friend put money in that collection plate, then your friend, no matter how peacefully he may live his life on a day to day basis, IS NOT A PEACEFUL INDIVIDUAL.

Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:04:00 pm  
Anonymous george said...

Oh, it wouldn't be Imm if he hadn't linked his targeted Jew--here the Jewish Week and Commentary--to Neo-Nazis.

"In fact, such debates attacking other minority religions in America, such as Judaism, also take place and not just in the fringe groups and dark Internet alleys such as the white nationalist Stormfront organization led by former American Nazi Party member Don Black."

As if. What a creep. He is ALWAYS comparing Jews to neo-Nazis. This is not normal, and beyond the pale.

This comes from a very ugly place.

Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:37:00 pm  
Anonymous Jeffrey Imm said...

George and Mr. "Pastorius" - I genuinely feel sorry for your obsessive need to libel others, and dramatically misrepresent what they are saying.

The libel against me is dramatic and obvious. I am not an anti-Semite, but I am a long time defender of Jews, Jewish-Americans, and Israel, as Mr. "Pastorius" is well aware in detail with documentation, despite his continuing such libelous comments against me.
http://www.realcourage.org/2010/07/the-big-lie-of-the-protocols/
http://www.realcourage.org/category/anti-semitism/
http://www.realcourage.org/2009/06/june-6-dc-rally-2/

In terms of "george's" recent libelous comments, I have never compared Jews to neo-Nazis EVER, and in the REAL posting he references, I specifically point how I traveled and fought against individuals who did just that from the Presbyterian church (PCUSA), as part of my efforts with the Simon Wiesenthal Center against those who falsely claimed as fact and who promoted the apocryphal "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" at Wooster College. I spell this out in the article he references, so his libel is very obvious.
http://realhumanrights.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/nyc-why-a-debate-on-islam/

My efforts were publicly reported by the Cleveland Jewish News on this
http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/articles/2004/03/11/news/local/bcover0312.txt

Do you plan to call the Simon Wiesenthal Center "anti-Semitic" next? Because they also reject the broad-brush hate against Muslims that some seek to promote.

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:30:00 am  
Anonymous Jeffrey Imm said...

Your very sad effort to libel me is all the more sad for you given my efforts to also support the US Holocaust Memorial Museum here in Washington DC, and hold public remembrances in dealing with the Neo-Nazi terrorist who attacked the USHMM here.
http://www.realcourage.org/2010/06/dc-remembers/

I feel pity for you individuals who seek to hide behind "screen names" because you do not have courage to address real issues with your real names as real men. I am sorry that you live in such fear that you must hide your identity when making such statements.

I feel pity for you individuals who seek to libelously accuse a long time defender of Jews and Israel as an anti-Semite, simply because I don't agree with others' attacks on Islam as a monolithic religion without diversity, and because I don't agree with Dr. Press's view on the BNP and other organizations.

I feel pity for you individuals who seek to libelously accuse me as an anti-Semite, taking a statement totally quote out of context in an email I sent to Dr. John Press, when I was critical of John Press' his apparent questioning as to whether or not the BNP was "racist or not," when the BNP's leader had called the Holocaust as the "Holohoax."

Dr. John Press has stated on his Culturism blog that he is Jewish. It is not a secret, but has been public knowledge for years.
http://culturismnews.blogspot.com/2008/12/coulter-jews-and-culturism.html

In my private email to Dr. Press, I had hoped to impress upon him, since he has told the world that he is Jewish, how it didn't make sense to make excuses for the BNP group led by a person (Nick Griffin) who called the Holocaust the "Holohoax" among other baldly anti-Semitic actions and statements. I believed that this would resonate with him personally, and perhaps he would reconsider his position on the BNP.

If my effort to persuade him offended him, then I apologize, but that was never the intent, and I am certainly not anti-Semitic. I note that Dr. Press is not part of any of this dialogue claiming that I am "anti-Semitic." If he believed this were true, why hasn't he said so? Especially since Dr. Press is the only one with courage to actually associate his real identity with his statements, unlike others writing here on this IBA posting?

Certainly, anyone should clearly see the problems with a group such as the BNP, whose current leader called the Holocaust the "Holohoax," and who it requires little research to see the BNP's organizational history of racism and bigotry.

Clearly there are anonymous individuals who are afraid to use their real names who seek to attack me on an issue that Dr. Press is not willing to address. If Dr. Press has a further issue with me, I have offered him a platform to debate. He knows how to reach me.

I urge you to Choose Love, Not Hate - Love Wins.

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:31:00 am  
Anonymous Jeffrey Imm said...

Your very sad effort to libel me is all the more sad for you given my efforts to also support the US Holocaust Memorial Museum here in Washington DC, and hold public remembrances in dealing with the Neo-Nazi terrorist who attacked the USHMM here.
http://www.realcourage.org/2010/06/dc-remembers/

I feel pity for you individuals who seek to hide behind "screen names" because you do not have courage to address real issues with your real names as real men. I am sorry that you live in such fear that you must hide your identity when making such statements.

I feel pity for you individuals who seek to libelously accuse a long time defender of Jews and Israel as an anti-Semite, simply because I don't agree with others' attacks on Islam as a monolithic religion without diversity, and because I don't agree with Dr. Press's view on the BNP and other organizations.

I feel pity for you individuals who seek to libelously accuse me as an anti-Semite, taking a statement totally quote out of context in an email I sent to Dr. John Press, when I was critical of John Press' his apparent questioning as to whether or not the BNP was "racist or not," when the BNP's leader had called the Holocaust as the "Holohoax."

Dr. John Press has stated on his Culturism blog that he is Jewish. It is not a secret, but has been public knowledge for years.
http://culturismnews.blogspot.com/2008/12/coulter-jews-and-culturism.html

In my private email to Dr. Press, I had hoped to impress upon him, since he has told the world that he is Jewish, how it didn't make sense to make excuses for the BNP group led by a person (Nick Griffin) who called the Holocaust the "Holohoax" among other baldly anti-Semitic actions and statements. I believed that this would resonate with him personally, and perhaps he would reconsider his position on the BNP.

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:33:00 am  
Anonymous Jeffrey Imm said...

If my effort to persuade him offended him, then I apologize, but that was never the intent, and I am certainly not anti-Semitic. I note that Dr. Press is not part of any of this dialogue claiming that I am "anti-Semitic." If he believed this were true, why hasn't he said so? Especially since Dr. Press is the only one with courage to actually associate his real identity with his statements, unlike others writing here on this IBA posting?

Certainly, anyone should clearly see the problems with a group such as the BNP, whose current leader called the Holocaust the "Holohoax," and who it requires little research to see the BNP's organizational history of racism and bigotry.

Clearly there are anonymous individuals who are afraid to use their real names who seek to attack me on an issue that Dr. Press is not willing to address. If Dr. Press has a further issue with me, I have offered him a platform to debate. He knows how to reach me.

I urge you to Choose Love, Not Hate - Love Wins.

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:35:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Jeffrey Imm is the Honorary Hall Monitor of the Infidel Bloggers Alliance.

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:38:00 am  
Anonymous george said...

I figured that in a post dedicated to "end the name calling and demonizing," we ("we" as in "Imm") might actually go one day without calling a Jew a Nazi.
http://realhumanrights.wordpress.com/2010/10/19/dignity/

But when Pamela Geller's name was invoked, I knew today wasn't going to be that day despite promising blog post titles.

Still...Imm got to paragraph eight without suggesting Geller was a Nazi-esque. And that was the first comparison of Jews to Nazis this morning.

Does that count in terms of progress? Is there a curve for Jew/Nazi-baiting when it comes to Imm?

"In history, we have seen the use of defamatory cartoons appeals to the lowest minds and thinkers as we saw under Adolf Hitler’s regime about Jews to dehumanize not just individuals, but also to dehumanize entire religions and identity groups."

Imm says no more cartoons. He's right, Nazis used comics, so no more cartoons.

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 3:33:00 pm  
Anonymous george said...

This putz thinks he can boss around Jews because he is against murdering US Holocaust Museum guards.

What kind of shmuck of an asshole thinks because he is against murdering Holocaust museum guards the Jews owe him their freedom of speech and thought?

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 3:37:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Very good point, george.

You know, I've spent my time making fun of Jeffrey Imm, rather than actually analyzing him.

You are convincing me he, perhaps, deserves some serious treatment.

But, he's so funny.

So, which is it?

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:34:00 pm  
Anonymous george said...

He's funny, but he's funnier when it isn't your team being smeared and even shut down by Imm. Imm has proven very effective at shutting down those who see the world differently by employing Alinksy-esque tactics.

Look at the protest of the murdered Holocaust Museum guard. Who disagrees that killing a US Holocaust Museum guard is bad? Oh, you agree? Great. Then Imm says [cartoons about Muslims are like Hitler]. Oh, you disagree? Then you are ON the murdering Holocaust Museum side.

This type of nonsense may be funny, but it is a lot less funny when he succeeds in smearing our disproportionately Jewish allies (that is who he increasingly targets) as Nazi-sympathizers. And it makes us waste a lot of time defending ourselves and our allies against ridiculous-but searing--smears.

We shouldn't have to waste time defending Pamela and others (like Dr. Press) against Imm's vicious brush. But it has its effects. The SPLC picks up his smears, and then everyone simply references the SPLC.

The guys needs to be exposed and understood, because for years, he has gotten away with smearing whoever had the audacity to disagree with him, because he has a protest AGAINST Mengele experimenting on twins.

How courageous, right? It IS funny.

But the damage he sometimes does is not funny at all. And increasingly, Imm is targeting Jewish infidels.

He's our problem now.

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 5:39:00 pm  
Anonymous Matan said...

Just so you know. When Imm references problems in "New York," this is a euphamism for Jews not understanding Islam like he wants them to.

Wednesday, October 20, 2010 6:14:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

George,
You're right. I tend to see everything as hilarious lunacy. Sometimes I have trouble taking things seriously, because they are so seemingly irrational/patently absurd.

But, of course, our world buys into a lot of patently absurd ideas.

I know of no one who takes Jeffrey Imm seriously, at this point.

When I first linked to him, I did so because I appreciated his stand against the VB.

But, he is a fool. He came here and started slandering our writers without having checked into the background of this website.

(By the way, I'm pretty sure that our readership, as relatively small as it is in comparison to a site like Atlas Shrugs or Jihad Watch, has a lot more readers than Jeffrey's site.)

Anyway, I do have a question for Imm: I saw a photograph of Imm with Baron Boddissey taken well after this site separated from Boddissey and his disgusting friend Christine Brim. (The photo was taken at a party which I am all but sure Christine was at as well.)

Why is it that Jeffrey was palling around with such people AFTER THEY HAD ALREADY DEFENDED THE VB AS A NON-RACIST PARTY, DEFENDED RACIALISM, AND PROPOSED AN ALLIANCE OF THE COUNTER-JIHAD AND THE BNP???

Jeffrey must be a closet fascist.

That's the only reasonable explanation for his party attendance, using his logic.

Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:30:00 am  
Anonymous george said...

And he's back. Imm, the champion of human rights that he is, is "well aware" of what the problems associated with the Muslim Brotherhood are. The problems, of course, are the Jewish anti-Jihadists who are excessive in their denunciation of the Muslim Brotherhood.

His anti-Jewish, I mean, anti-jihadist activities now resume.

So please warn your Jewish friends: If they are connected to anyone who ever has linked or commented about a Mr. Roland Shirk, now is the time to get on their knees and swear loyalty to Imm.

Jew have been warned!

http://www.realcourage.org/2011/01/anti-islam-calls-for-shooting/

Imm is, of course, well aware that though Auster is Christian, he is ethnically Jewish.

"Other recent columns by “Roland Shirk” have been praised by the “racialist” Lawrence Auster who applauds this individual’s calls to end the right of any Muslims to immigrate to the United States."

CLEARLY this proves that Auster is supportive of everything and anything else Shirk has said.

And Robert Spencer is in big trouble too. (He lives in NY you know. ;)

"The Jihad Watch website is run by SIOA co-leader Robert Spencer whose SIOA political activism has included protests at a planned mosque in Long Island and the planned Park Place Islamic Center in New York City. He will be speaking on February 11 at a CPAC convention on those topics in Washington DC."

The anti-Jihadists must (all) pay! Especially the uh...NY ones, if you know what I'm saying.

Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:55:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Thanks, George. I appreciate you helping us out by keeping us apprised of Imm's madness.

By the way, did I mention that Imm can be seen in photos with Baron Bodissey of Gates of Vienna long after IBA disassociated ourselves with Bodissey because of his support of the anti-Semitic political party Vlaams Belang?

Monday, January 31, 2011 1:53:00 am  
Anonymous george said...

Today Jeffrey Imm found a real radical M.O.T. to go after. This guy is someone everyone would do well to distance themselves from and admit that sometimes the anti-jihadists just go too far. Honestly, after reading what this S.O.B. wrote, I am having second doubts myself.

I am speaking, of course, about the liberal columnist Richard Cohen of the radical far-Right Washington Post, and his horrific assertion that...we are not Egyptians.

"Today, on the streets of America’s national capital, Mr. Cohen’s claim is being read that Americans should reject Egyptian human rights because “we are not them.”"

I am sure you are well-aware of what the surname signals.

"We must hang our heads in shame"

Yes. Yes we must.

http://www.realcourage.org/2011/02/we-are-them/

Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:56:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

We are them, so we ought to support the Muslim Brotherhood? Is that what he thinks?

Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:58:00 am  
Anonymous george said...

No. He'll pretend he's against some aspects of the Muslim Brotherhood -- he'll even protest them in Maryland somewhere (that will scare them into democracy)and then attempt to harass Jewish, I mean anti-jihadist, writers into submission brandishing that "I stood up to the MB in suburban MD so you do what I say you should do!"

Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:37:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

george,
How about helping us out here as an IBA contributor?

Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:07:00 am  
Anonymous george said...

That is a generous offer. I am a bit overwhelmed, but I think it depends on what is expected of me time-wise.

How should I reach you best off-line?

Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:20:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Email me at

cuanasblog

@

yahoo.com

Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:27:00 pm  
Anonymous George said...

Guess who's finally back in action? Our favorite speech monitor, Jeffrey Imm.

And he has some strong things to say about the anti-jihadist movement!

"Both the Anti-Islam movement and the Bin Ladenist ideologues have rationalized terrorism"

You see, only the small fraction of Bid Laden followers of Islam rationalize terror. Only them. But unfortunately, as you can see. the anti-Islam movement pretty much in its entirety rationalizes terror. So do the right thing and stop, ok?

http://www.realcourage.org/2011/08/choose-compassion/

Oh, just curious if you are well aware of the religion of two of the most guilty anti-Islamists are that Imm is retargeting? Want

Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:21:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

George,
Thanks for the info.

Why is it that you have not returned any of my emails?

Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:31:00 am  

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