In any decent society these animals would be terminated with extreme prejudice. Using a dull blade.
New York Post:
CBS reporter's Cairo nightmare
By MICHAEL SHAIN, DON KAPLAN and KATE SHEEHY
Last Updated: 7:16 AM, February 16, 2011
Posted: 1:19 AM, February 16, 2011
"60 Minutes" correspondent Lara Logan was repeatedly sexually assaulted by thugs yelling, "Jew! Jew!" as she covered the chaotic fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo's main square Friday, CBS and sources said yesterday.
The TV crew with Logan, who is also the network's chief foreign correspondent, had its cameras rolling moments before she was dragged off -- and caught her on tape looking tense and trying to head away from a crowd of men behind her in Tahrir Square.
"Logan was covering the jubilation . . . when she and her team and their security were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration," CBS said in a statement. "It was a mob of more than 200 people whipped into a frenzy.
"In the crush of the mob, [Logan] was separated from her crew. She was surrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating before being saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers.
"She reconnected with the CBS team, returned to her hotel and returned to the United States on the first flight the next morning," the network added. "She is currently in the hospital recovering."
A network source told The Post that her attackers were screaming, "Jew! Jew!" during the assault. And the day before, Logan had told Esquire.com that Egyptian soldiers hassling her and her crew had accused them of "being Israeli spies." Logan is not Jewish.
In Friday's attack, she was separated from her colleagues and attacked for between 20 to 30 minutes, The Wall Street Journal said.
Her injuries were described to The Post as "serious."
CBS went public with the incident only after it became clear that other media outlets were on to it, sources said.
"A call came in from The [Associated Press]" seeking information, a TV-industry source told The Post. "They knew she had been attacked, and they had details. CBS decided to get in front of the story."
Most network higher-ups didn't even know how brutal the sexual assault was until a few minutes before the statement went out.
"We were surprised it stayed quiet" as long as it did, one source said.
Another source insisted that Logan was "involved in the process" of deciding whether to make her attack public, and ultimately understood why the statement had to be released.
The horrific incident came a week after the 39-year-old reporter was temporarily detained by Egyptian police amid tensions over foreign coverage of the country's growing revolution.
As part of the anti-media backlash, CNN's Anderson Cooper had also been roughed up, and ABC correspondent Brian Hartman had been threatened with beheading.
"[Logan] was not in the country for long -- she'd been thrown out, if you remember -- and had just gone back in," one source said.
"She had security with her, but it wasn't enough."
Before the attack, Logan -- who is based in Washington, where she lives with her 2-year-old daughter and husband -- had been set to return to the States sometime over the weekend to tape a "60 Minutes" segment on Wael Ghonim.
Ghonim, Google's head of marketing in the Middle East, had been briefly kidnapped after helping to organize protesters.
But after she was assaulted, Logan went back to her hotel, and within two hours -- sometime late Friday and into early Saturday -- was flown out of Cairo on a chartered network jet, sources said.
She wasn't taken to a hospital in Egypt because the network didn't trust local security there, sources said.
And neither CBS nor Logan reported the crime to Egyptian authorities because they felt they couldn't trust them, either, the sources said. "The way things are there now, they would have ended up arresting her again," one source said.
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"Logan was covering the jubilation . . . when she and her team and their security were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration."
Although they gang raped her for a half hour CBS must maintain the lie that the majority are good, freedom loving people, and this is the birth of a democracy. Far from the truth, this is the birth of another Islamic Sharia state like Gaza, only bigger.
at least she was smart enough to realize going to the "authorities would get her arrested for being raped. as per islamic law rape vixtims are perpatrators as much or more than the rapist so need to be punished .
I'm so pissed over this. And yes, she was targeted for precisely who she is, a beautiful Western blonde, but this goes on daily in Egypt. We have all read the stories of the mutiliation, subjegation, sexual abuse and humiliation that Egyptian women have to endure daily. pisslam pisses on women. But I want to take this one step further though. In this the USA, I have undergone sexual harrassment all my life. When I was in the AF, it was pretty bad, and I was just a 19-year-old kid with a family tradition of military service. But it is everywhere and you guys know it. Please do not support the degradation and sexual objectification of women. I know it's a fine line. Yes, women are beautiful and their beauty should be celebrated, but their degradation should not. I have heard men talking in their groups about sex and women, and it's not pretty. Don't be a part of it. Instead be hyper aware that women are prey in all societies, and because we are not half as strong as any man, we need to be protected and respected. Every two minutes in America, a woman is raped. I only wish that sexism would get half the attention in our society, in the world, that racism does. My heart is breaking for Lara. I fantasize about some vigilante tracking these guys down blowing them away.
We can't just automatically support this woman, in spite of the horror of the attack on her, and by extension, all women, by the Muslim horde, and that is so due to so many in the past, Yvonne Ridley, for example, and Beverly Geisbrecht, who, after witnessing Muslim savagery first hand, then come out as converts, demanding the same shameful treatment of all women in the name of Islam. I can't be sure that this woman, in spite of the details, won't in a month or so, come out in support of Islam and against America. The Left and the media generally have made themselves so shameful that even an event like this makes me wary of sympathy.
Having made my point, to whatever extent, I do have sympathy for this woman. It is a terrible thing that happened to her. Nothing now or later changes that. It's a matter of how we feel about the woman in question. I'm sorry to say that I can't say much about her at this point. As an objective victim, she is a legitimate case for concern; but who knows what she'll do in response in time? I'm waiting before I decide what to think of that. I won't be at all surprised to find her grabbing her child and running off to Egypt to convert. Leftists are insane. I hope this woman is just a normal person, but we have been burned many times. It warrants caution.
Obviously this secular group has been reading the Federalist papers, and Jefferson's memoirs.
Dag, that is a horrific statement. No matter (even if your Ridley comparison were to be true) what idiotic (if it is) religious suasion she has (I don't know and I don't care) she in no way rated any of this.
I AUTOMATICALLY SUPPORT THIS WOMAN.
When you read she was surrounded by a mob, accused of (OMG) being a 'jew' then endured a brutal and SUSTAINED sexual assault, please explain how you cannot automatically support any woman gang raped by 200 FREAKS FOR ALLAH?
This is a lynch mob with pricks. Nothing more.
Each and every member is guilty
Those there who did not exert all effort to stop the crimes are guilty.
But the problem is the reverse.
infidel
uncovered
american
worst of all - jew
rape is a mercy from allah since they didn't behead her
She is the property to be raided and done with at the will of the raiders.
CBS, FOX and the rest had better think carefully about how these events are to be covered.
This is not an upset crowd in Cincinatti
I was going to comment here but it seems EPA has pretty much covered what I wanted to say.
Personally, I too don't know who this woman is. And whatever he decision later, I will stand by her until she decides she wants to join forces with her rapists. But she hasn't done so and until she does so, she has my support.
Leftists are idiots I agree. But I would still consider it rape and abhor it even if the woman raped was a leftist.
She was lucky to get out alive. They would have killed her, tried to kill her, but the gang rape was pure pisslamic male showing a woman that she is nothing and deserves humiliation and assualt.
Dag, I couldn't even follow what you wrote???
Normal and decent people of any kind are sickened by the assault on the reporter in Cairo. My problem is that there are many who are not concerned at all about the woman involved. I'm concerned that many of our peace and love fellows from the 60s will use this assault, like any other they can find, to beat America and the modern world. Who can anticipate what spin they'll come up with this time. My concern is that for the Left, nothing that happened to the woman in question will make any difference to them. She as a person is not important; she is only a weapon used to bash. Did Leftists care about the lady shot in Arizona? Or did they care about bashing Sarah Palin? I'm saying here that the Left has zero regard for individuals, and it has all regard for talking about "the masses."
I raise the issue of this woman in Cairo because we have seen over and again, and I provide two examples above, people kidnapped and brutalised by Muslims; who then supported Muslims; became Muslims. What will Logan do? Will she too, like so many Leftists, use this case as a weapon to beat our nation? I certainly wish her well, as would any normal person. But we have seen too many turn against the good and even use their own sufferings as a club to beat the Modern world just because they cannot let go of their vanities.
I don't know this woman or anything about her. I do question whether she, like others, will use her own suffering to add to the suffering of others by converting to Islam because of this. Will we hear or read her claiming she was attacked because of America? Was the mob acting because of "imperialism and colonialism"? Will she excuse them on the grounds that they thought she is Jewish? Will she make excuses for them? I don't know. I would not be at all surprised if that happens. It's happened too many times before. That doesn't make it right that she was assaulted. It does make me wonder how this will develop.
For the record, I understand your point. It is a point worth making. But, I don't agree that "We can't just automatically support this woman, in spite of the horror of the attack on her."
I guess it's not really a matter of supporting her in anything other than, pray, and try to make sure she knows people care.
There is nothing wrong with that.
I'm not having much success articulating my point. I mean that we must, and automatically, have sympathy for, and must too, support, in whatever reasonable fashion strangers can, any woman raped by anyone, let alone a gang of monsters. My point, which I'm not making well so far, is that we must also separate this assault from whatever comes late. Rape is rape. It's wrong. It's evil. Then, how does the woman deal with it? If she comes out blaming America for it, that won't lessen the crime against her. That stands objectively as the crime it is. If it turns out that she promotes some multi-culti rage against America and Modernity, and conceivably converts to Islam, as some have done in similar circumstances, still we would and will condemn the attack on her; but we have no reason to sympathise with anything more if she turns against America and herself, as Stockholm Syndrome people do.
I note this only because it could happen, and it frustrates. It is likely this person will do nothing outrageous at all.
I had the unpleasant experience of witnessing a gang-rape onboard a train in Egypt, two young Western women being attacked in a car ahead of me and my companions. I made some fuss, and then went back to my car for help from an Australian. The two of us were sufficient to rescue the women, though one at a time, the one I was guarding still being attacked as the first was escorted to our car. My minor intervention only prevented worse. With two of us we had enough force to rescue the second girl. With more we were able to act appropriately.
We kept the girls with us for roughly eight more hours, they totally silent the whole time. When we reached our destination, they disembarked without a word and immediately set off to the aeroport for their nation of origin. What a sickening event for all of us.
Theirs is not an experience they are ever likely to talk about. I haven't mentioned it either till now. One can only hope that the woman in question above will be able to file this away as a private horror. Not likely.
Having seen this, I know something. Having seen others turn into monsters themselves due to this kind of event I know other things. I don't now everything. I don't know how this woman will come out of this. If, by ill chance, she comes out in support of jihadi rapists, we can't just slough it off and make no comments on it, regardless of what she has suffered. I hope this is not going to be the case, but I raise it as a caution just in case.
Dag,
You wrote; Rape is rape. It's wrong. It's evil. Then, how does the woman deal with it? If she comes out blaming America for it, that won't lessen the crime against her.
I reply: I got it. Yvonne Ridley and all that. I understand your point. Blaming America for a rape is not really different from blaming Jews for the banking crisis, and shit like that. It is a type of insidious prejudice that shows minds are turning to chaos.
I understand your point.
I'm going on about this because I spent two years in the Middle East, and as we now know, I have some experience, though second-hand, with Muslim rape culture. I could, though this is not the time, go into two cases of men gang raped. I've written about one of them. He's the one who was afraid to let me rescue him. He's the one who refused to admit there was a problem. He's the one who shielded his captors and wouldn't leave with me when I came to get him and take him away from them. He could not admit that he was captured. Vanity on a cosmic scale.
Like is just bizarre. There's no end to the weird.
Here, you'll like this post:
http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/2011/02/debbie-schlussel-has-point-re-lara.html
Thanks for the link, Jaco.
I have written a bit lately about us all writing books. We blog, and that means we write for the public, and that we reach an audience and have some impact on the world; but as good as that is, we miss the point, I think, of writing for the public: that we can present clear and sustained arguments for the world in ways that are otherwise lost in the flurry of daily writings.
Take Stogie, as one example of a fine writer and a great man. I will never forget his piece on the Beemer family home. That post alone should have won the man a Pulitzer Prize. But there is so much to do in a day, and who has time to read all the great posts out daily, by the hour, around the clock, and everywhere. Good work, brilliant work, work of genius and true humanity comes out and gets lost and is more than likely not even seen at all but by more than a few for a day. We are losing great work by great minds and great people.
There are simple things, as one might call them, that most of us don't know. I don't know most of what it is about Stogie that makes him the father he is. I catch glimpses here and there when I encounter his posts. Altogether, his posts add up to an immensity of right manliness that most have no idea about. Always on Watch is a woman I would study under for lessons in life that I need to know but have no real access to other than reading scattered posts as well. Elder of Zion? He is a hero of humanness. I haven't seen his work in years. Jack from Dive Desk? Wonderful. Lost to me.
But if these writers would publish books of their best, or even some of their best, then I might have a chance to learn by studying carefully for a time, and then time and again. I'm not by any means the worst loser on the planet, but I need what they know, so one might easily imagine how desperately others need it more. To present a Book of Stogie, the Wisdom of AoW, Jacclesiastes, The Tomes of Elder, these are things we can gain from. As is, most of this is lost, at least to me. I need these things, and I think it's likely I could find them if they were books rather than blog posts. Others, like the girl raped, could find them too, and maybe benefit.
Stogie is a great blogger. One of my favorites.
Elder of Ziyon used to write here. In fact, I think he is still on our list of contributors, but I haven't seen him in awhile.
AOW is great. No doubt.
Ecclesiastes is my second favorite book in the Bible (Romans being my favorite).
But, I think that if my writing is like any book in the Bible, it's like some irritable prophet. But, I think I'm more irritable than any Biblical Prophet.
;-)
I was hoping I am cranky on a Biblical scale, but it's more like Mickey Spillane. I can live with it.
Last evening we had the pleasure of Howard Rotberg's company at our weekly meeting. He's recently published Jamie Glazov's latest work. Glazov does great work, and now, to make my point, one can find some of the best of his interviews between the covers. Otherwise, those are just good impressions, stuff somewhere.
What good are books? Look at Sarah Palin. She went from being great to being a women some of us are desperate to elect as our president, and that in some large measure because of her book tours. We need an avalanche of books to fight the tide of leftards who control the media and the culture. We can do do that. We can win. We have to get the message out and create some popularity. Imagine the impact Logan would have if she puts out a book. It's a battle for minds, and that battle is won through words. the Internet is a good place to organise, but it's not the real world.
About writing a book. I am writing a book but every time I write a section or a chapter, the one thought that goes through my mind is "this will never get published".
What am I capable of writing but what I know about Islam from personal experience? And what I know about Islam is the ugly truth that no media outlet would be willing to let out and I am not rich enough nor do I see myself winning a lottery in the near future to self publish my book on a grand scale.
I could think of e-publishing. But really, is it as far reaching as a book in print? I think not.
On top of all the facts I have mentioned above, I am a lousy writer compared to the rest of the people you have mentioned in your comments so far (by the way, Elder writes at his blog elderofziyon at blogspot dot com). Heck, I think I am worse than Pastorius when it comes to writing (:-P ).
Here's what I am trying to say. We can all write books but they'll be worth nothing if we don't have either a lot of money to self-publish and then market those books or editors and publishers willing to work on our books. I know I would need an editor or two. There might be others that might not but I seriously would.
Oh and I just wanted to say. I agree with Dag now that I understand what he meant to say regarding the rape case.
Dag is a very, very good writer.
You're a good writer too, AA.
You're not giving yourself enough credit.
I'll take a bit of time this weekend to post here about the importance and possibilities of publish. Between our individual abilities and our networks on the Internet and the medium of Internet publishing, and then the sheer need to throw our written bulk against the machine of Left media, I think we can do a fine job of making our work more likely to succeed than we might at first assume.
I'll write about it and post it here, and then we can see how it goes.
I will also do my best to catch really careless tyops before I hit the publish button.
Pastorius,
I have read Dag's work only here at IBLOGA in shape of comments and based on that I agree with you. He is an outstanding writer.
Oh, thanks for your compliment. But I think I am long way off from publishing material. That's what I think. Plus as I said, the stuff that I am capable of writing, I don't see it getting published by a mainstream publisher.
I might be wrong about all of this though. I don't know, I am going to work on finishing my book (which is considerably longer than the piece I sent you) and then see if any literary agents or publishers are interested in it or not.
Dag,
I am looking forward to your post.
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