Wednesday, July 20, 2011

CERN Gags Its Scientists From Talking About Discovery Man Was Not Meant To Know

From Ace

No really. They were doing a test to see what function high energy particles (like, from the sun) might have on cloud formation. I think the theory is that such particles help form clouds, but don't hold me to that.
CERN's scientists are gagged from talking about their interpretation of the results of the experiment. To be clear, they are allowed to talk about the actual results and data.
But they can't interpret it, not publicly, at least.
Why? Well, cloud formation is one of the areas that global warming cultists don't understand. Whatever they have discovered will have some impact on the global warming religion.
So, of course, scientists are warned not to take their scientific interpretations public.
Because, Heuer says, “That would go immediately into the highly political arena of the climate change debate. One has to make clear that cosmic radiation is only one of many parameters.”
Ahem.
Seems to me pretty likely that something in this undercuts a claim of the global warming cultists, and they are being extended the professional courtesy of getting a heads up and delay of the findings of this experiment, to give them time to prepare.
Go read the whole thing.

8 comments:

Damien said...

Pastorius,

I'm sorry, but this is very hard for me to believe. There are a lot of people out there, including scientists who would love nothing more than to be able to disprove man made climate change, and all the scientific journals would have to go along with this conspiracy for it to work. This sounds like a conspiracy theory to me, and an extraordinary claim.

Pastorius said...

Could be.

It will either prove to be true, or not.

Watch.

You would have said the whole Phil Jones scandal sounded like a conspiracy theory, right?

Super Samson said...
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Pastorius said...

Well, I don't buy it, SS SuperSamson.

cjk said...

Pat Robertson? You mean the guy who probably disseminates as much truth about Mohammedanism than anyone else? The guy who's donated millions to charitable causes?

I really hate slander of people for no other reason than that the media has intimated that it's okay to.
Sarah Palin
Terry Jones
Rush Limbaugh
Ronald Reagan

The list is honorable and courageous

Pastorius said...

Pat Robertson is known to do stuff like what I do here, in celebrating the death of absolutist pacifists in positions of political power.

Pat Robertson has made statements like that, he has called natural disasters punishment from God, etc.

Just as is true of me, he lacks tact, but one would expect more out of him than they would out of a nut like me.

I think it is understandable that many people would simply think Pat Robertson is a nut. I agree with you, however, that he has done much good as well.

Pastorius said...

On this thread, Damien has insinuated that I am a conspiracy theorist and Super Samson has stated that this post is on the level with Trutherism and Afrocentrism.

Here's more which has been added to the ace of Spades post

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/319027.php:

The Theory... First of all, there's a six-part video on this, lasting an hour.

Several people explain, but Miss Marple is the most detailed:

I assume this supports Svenmark's hypothesis. You can see the whole thing on a documentary on YouTube called "The Cloud Mystery," about an hour in 5-6 parts.

Basic theory: clouds are formed when cosmic rays hit the atmosphere. The more cloouds, the more cooling. When the sun is very active, it's magnetism draws cosmic rays to it rather than earth, resulting in less clouds and less cooling. When sun is inactive, more cosmic rays hit the earth, resulting in more clouds, more cooling.

And when we go through one of the dense star areas of the Milky Way, it doesn't matter WHAT the sun is doing, because the stars make lots of cosmic rays and overcome the sun, so we end up being very, very cold. As in Ice Age.

All nicely correlated with astronomers, geologic data, etc. Very interesting and makes sense to me.

So... we don't know for sure, but it looks very likely that this experiment confirmed parts of this cloud-formation theory and thereby, by implication, discredits global warming.


Bumping Update: Linking Canada Free Press, the findings are called "bombshell."

It does seem like the CERN experiment verified much of the Svenmark hypothesis.

Get ready for the next big bombshell in the man-made warming debate. The world’s most sophisticated particle study laboratory—CERN in Geneva—will soon announce that more cosmic rays do, indeed, create more clouds in earth’s atmosphere. More cosmic rays mean a cooler planet. Thus, the solar source of the earth’s long, moderate 1,500-year climate cycle will finally be explained.

cjk said...

Tact is a good quality, but too much of it leads to confusion. Style is good and tasteful, but I always reject style over substance.
How else do you convey the very Biblically based doctrine of God's judgment via natural disasters in many instances? No matter how you say it people are going to hate you for it, but I applaud the courage to be truthful.

There are many cases in life where telling the truth is just plain bad publicity.
Pat Robertson knows this just as Terry Jones knew what would happen, but did it anyway for the sake of truth.