We have to pass the law to find out what's in it.
From Ace:
This was the guy who earlier claimed that the Obamacare law's drafters never intending to apply subsidies only to people buying insurance off a state exchange.
He was later exposed as a liar, because his even-earlier statements made it plain that this was in fact completely intentional, as a spur to force states to set up state exchanges.
Now he's caught admitting in 2013 that he's willing to lie in any context necessary to get, and and maintain, Obamacare.
He admits in this clip that the text of Obamacare was deliberately written in a "tortured" way to conceal the fact that the mandate was in fact a tax, because if it were perceived (accurately) as a tax, the American public would not have abided it.
He also admits the law was written in order to hide from the public the fact that the whole point of Obamacare is a forced subsidy from the healthy to the sick -- that is, a tax.
UPDATED ----- Some thoughts:
ObamaCare architect caught lying about subsidy typo; 07/24/2014
Economist Was Under ; Contract With HHS While Touting Health Reform Bill 1/8/2010
Huffington Post Ripping Obama A New One Over GruberGate...Simply Amazing!1/13/2011
Various video clips of Jonathan Gruber, who got $400k as an Obamacare architect, contradicting himself on Halbig decision
Gruber received $400,000 from the Obama administration to conduct this 'research'.
Economist Was Under ; Contract With HHS While Touting Health Reform Bill 1/8/2010
Huffington Post Ripping Obama A New One Over GruberGate...Simply Amazing!1/13/2011
Various video clips of Jonathan Gruber, who got $400k as an Obamacare architect, contradicting himself on Halbig decision
Gruber received $400,000 from the Obama administration to conduct this 'research'.
0:00 It's just, you can't do it, politcally. You just literally cannot do it.
0:03 Ok. Transparent financing..unless we have transparent financing and thenhave transparent spending
0:09 I mean...this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO did not square the mandate as taxes
0:14 If the CBO squared the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Ok.
0:18 So it's written to do that.
0:19 In terms of, in terms of risk rated subsidies.
0:22 You get a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in
0:24 You made explicit the healthy people pay in and sick people get money
0:27 It would not have passed. Ok.
0:29 Just like how people, transparent...lack of transparency is a huge political advantage
0:34 And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever
0:37 But basically, that was really, really critical to get the thing to pass
0:42 And, you know, its the second best argument.
0:44 Look, I wish Mark was right, we could make it all transparent
0:46 But, I'd rather have this law, than not. So, it's kind of like his reporter's story.
0:49 You know, yeah. There are things that I wish I could change but I'd rather have this law than not.
0:03 Ok. Transparent financing..unless we have transparent financing and thenhave transparent spending
0:09 I mean...this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO did not square the mandate as taxes
0:14 If the CBO squared the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Ok.
0:18 So it's written to do that.
0:19 In terms of, in terms of risk rated subsidies.
0:22 You get a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in
0:24 You made explicit the healthy people pay in and sick people get money
0:27 It would not have passed. Ok.
0:29 Just like how people, transparent...lack of transparency is a huge political advantage
0:34 And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever
0:37 But basically, that was really, really critical to get the thing to pass
0:42 And, you know, its the second best argument.
0:44 Look, I wish Mark was right, we could make it all transparent
0:46 But, I'd rather have this law, than not. So, it's kind of like his reporter's story.
0:49 You know, yeah. There are things that I wish I could change but I'd rather have this law than not.
3 comments:
ObamaCare architect caught lying about subsidy typo; 07/24/2014
Economist Was Under ; Contract With HHS While Touting Health Reform Bill 1/8/2010
Huffington Post Ripping Obama A New One Over GruberGate...Simply Amazing!1/13/2011
Various video clips of Jonathan Gruber, who got $400k as an Obamacare architect, contradicting himself on Halbig decision
Gruber received $400,000 from the Obama administration to conduct this 'research'.
With GoP control of House and Senate, I want to see this go to court ....and Gruber HANG for fraud.
0:00 It's just, you can't do it, politcally. You just literally cannot do it.
0:03 Ok. Transparent financing..unless we have transparent financing and thenhave transparent spending
0:09 I mean...this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the CBO did not square the mandate as taxes
0:14 If the CBO squared the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Ok.
0:18 So it's written to do that.
0:19 In terms of, in terms of risk rated subsidies.
0:22 You get a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in
0:24 You made explicit the healthy people pay in and sick people get money
0:27 It would not have passed. Ok.
0:29 Just like how people, transparent...lack of transparency is a huge political advantage
0:34 And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever
0:37 But basically, that was really, really critical to get the thing to pass
0:42 And, you know, its the second best argument.
0:44 Look, I wish Mark was right, we could make it all transparent
0:46 But, I'd rather have this law, than not. So, it's kind of like his reporter's story.
0:49 You know, yeah. There are things that I wish I could change but I'd rather have this law than not.
Corruption on crack!
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