Friday, May 05, 2006

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19 comments:

Anonymous said...

left a response for you stogmeister on my blog.

J said...

i'd be interested to know which verses from the New Testament they have been using to "justify" their actions?

You see, there is no such thing as Jihad or Crusade in Christianity. Christianity does not condone forced conversion or murder in the name of spreading the religion.

whereas in the Quran, Jihad is a DUTY of ALL Muslims.

So when someone claims to be using Christianity as a tool of imperialism or murder, I can easily point out where they are wrong. The same cannot be said for Islam

J said...

Eteraz, some things for you to think about.

1) This blog is here to promote understanding of the Jihad ideology and it's advocation in the Quran

2) This site is open to all contributors, whatever religion they may be, although having someone who seems to be promoting taqiya seems quite odd and against the purpose of the blog

3) The claim in this article that these people have used Christianity as a justification to promote war is misleading, in the same way that saying the "war on terror" is a Christian crusade is misleading and entirely inaccurate

Prove me wrong though. Find me some pictures of Christians Ugandans waving around bibles, screaming Jesus is great whilst slicing the heads off of the non-believers.

However, if you can't back up your claim, I will remove this post, as I should do anyway due to it's complete lack of relation to the blogs objective.

I look forward to your reply

J

Anonymous said...

i'm not going to dignify the allegations of taqiya with a reponse. it's an assinine allegation, and if i could, i'd moon you.

as to the veracity of the LRA: it has been confirmed by the CIA, State, and HRW. It is designated a terrorist organization by our government. It might behoove you to learn that it was formerly called the Holy Spirit Movement. Tell me J. who believes in the Holy Spirit? Casper?

As to the connection between the LRA and Jihad -- very simple: I am showing you that just as it is wrong to stereotype all Christians due to the behavior of some Christians, it is wrong to stereotype all Muslims according to the behavior of some Muslims. Of course, by accusing me of taqiya and god knows what else, you obviously didn't get that lesson. I'm trying to help you to fight the right people. Help you to fight the jihadis, instead of people like me, who only started coming here to look at the Infidel Girl.

As to removing my post: get over it.

By the way, are you Christian? I didn't hear you explicitly condemn the behavior of the LRA.

See how that stings homie?

Anonymous said...

Ali the apostate Eteraz:

i'm not going to dignify the allegations of taqiya with a reponse.

I'm not impressed with your recent tactic of not answering questions, but offering evasive sarcastic or silly responses instead (e.g. about getting better grades in history than a person whose comment you're answering). Is this a sign that you're all style, but no substance? I suspect that this might be the case.

Anonymous said...

hey anonymous,

how about actually listing a name before making accusations of being chicken.

let's see. how many times have you been published? oh, ok, didn't think so.

if im all style and no substance: i encourage you to check out my conversations with islamic traditionalists on my blog. my long absences from ibloga are due to the fact that im spending most of my time challenging the people you fear.

they are under 'cleansing with sunlight.' and then two letters to islamic traditionalists. you seem like a smart guy. im sure you can use the search function on my blog.

btw, have you met ali eshtehar? i think he was looking for you.

Anonymous said...

Ali the apostate Eteraz:

how about actually listing a name before making accusations of being chicken.

let's see. how many times have you been published? oh, ok, didn't think so.


And you respond with nonsense again... Why am I not surprised?

if im all style and no substance: i encourage you to check out my conversations with islamic traditionalists on my blog.

It's not your conversations with them I react to (as I haven't bothered reading them) - it's your responses to infidels.

Anonymous said...

as ive said before i dont have time to hang out and respond to everyone's comments with detailed dissertations. this site in particular is as much about 'issues' as it is about hanging out and being stupid and dorky. that's why i like coming here. it's like a pub. you want to engage me in some real issue? write a post about it, cite to some of my posts, and i'll take you down in an intellectual onslaught you'll never forget.

son.

oh, i forgot: you rather remain anonymous.

have it your way.

puck-puck-pkaaaaaaak.

Anonymous said...

btw,

you done reading my posts on islamic traditionalism?

didn't think so.

Anonymous said...

Ali the apostate Eteraz:

this site in particular is as much about 'issues' as it is about hanging out and being stupid and dorky

You're being too stupid and too dorky in your responses, that's the problem.

you want to engage me in some real issue? write a post about it, cite to some of my posts, and i'll take you down in an intellectual onslaught you'll never forget.

I see, delusions of grandeur. I guess it's a bit hard even for an apostate to properly abandon the Islamic mindset...

oh, i forgot: you rather remain anonymous.

have it your way.

puck-puck-pkaaaaaaak.


Even more nonsense... I give up.

Anonymous said...

hey anonymous, are you Muslim? Because usually only Muslims call me apostate. In fact, it makes no sense for a non-Muslim to call me an apostate, because non-Muslims don't believe in apostasy.

Jay.Mac said...

The LRA is NOT a Christian organisation. Their leader, Joseph Kony who proclaims himself a spirit medium, has what may be termed a "unique" take on the Bible. The intent of the LRA is to replace the constitution with the 10 commandments- but they seem to have no problem is breaking the commandment prohibiting killing themselves. Obviously, their dogma has nothing to do with the New Testament. Kony has also revealed another, 11th commandment, "Thou shalt not ride a bicycle". The punishment for breaking this commandment is to have your feet chopped off.

They may call themselves Christians but it is apparent to everyone here that what they are doing runs contrary to the teachings of Christianity. There are no passages in the New Testament which exhort followers to violence of any description. Kony and his followers cannot point to any of the teachings of Jesus as justification for the actions they are engaged in. Can the same be said of Islamic terrorists?

And just for the record, Kony is an abomination- I wholeheartedly condemn him and his group and all that they stand for. They are monsters.

Here's an interesting snippet from one of his former captives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kony)-

"It was a strange religion Kony adhered to. He prayed to the God of the Christians on Sundays reciting the Rosary and quoting the bible; but he also prayed on Fridays, like the Moslems. He celebrated Christmas, but he also fasted for 30 days during Ramadan and prohibited the consumption of pork."

And then there's this (same source)-

There have been many observations of Kony traveling to Sudan and receiving supplies from Khartoum (currently an Islamic government). The apparent belief in two different religions may be to serve two purposes. They claim to believe in Christianity in order to gain acceptability in the conservative dedicated rural Christian community in which they operate, although it appears Christians and other non-Muslims are their primary targets, as in Sudan.

Anonymous said...

jay mac,

you mean the killer is nuts? thanks for the research.

i mentioned in my post there was some connection with sudan, but this sheds a lot of light on it.

can you please post the same comment in the comments section to my blog?

btw, what is a spirit medium? is that an evangelical thing?

Anonymous said...

Looks like the Islamofacists are taking over the IBLOGA.

J said...

Eteraz, as I have still seen no evidence that this group are bible believing Christians or using passages from the New Testament to justify their actions, never mind that this post is entirely unrelated to the blog "ideology", I will be clearing it.

(I'll be leaving the post open to preserve the comments)

Pastorius said...

Eteraz,
A spirit medium is not a Christian thing. In fact, the only religion I have ever heard of which refers to spirit mediums is Wicca.

Pastorius said...

Anonymous,
Eteraz is one of many contributors here at IBA. Don't worry the Islamofascists are not taking over here.

For the record, it seems to me that Kony is about as much of a Christian as Jim Jones, or David Koresh. In other words, he is a cult leader.

Dag said...

I continue to argue for the retention of this shit-weasel for the reason that he has a right to be here on an equal basis, given that he's invited in the first place, and that though he violates every common decency at seemingly every chance it's good that he continue to do so openly so we and others can witness just what a piece of shit he is.

unaha-closp said...

LRA takes its direction from Islamist Khartoum and its function was to provide a counterweight insurgency in northern Uganda to the SPLA insurgency Kampala backs in southern Sudan.