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Sunday, May 28, 2006

The Spinelessness Of Europe?

Atlas has an amazing letter written to her by a European man, explaining the European mindset, and why it appears as if Europe will never deal with the Islamofascists in their midst.

It is worth your time to read the whole thing, because it is a brilliant analysis, in my opinion, but, I will excerpt a bit here:


In the context of this Islamic problem, I think the apparent spinelessness of Europeans and their governments is probably best understood as a manifestation of the general sentiment that if these problems are not affecting most people personally, (a) they don't feel any motivation for doing anything about them and (b) largely they don't even see them. Clearly this is an idiotic attitude to adopt, but unlike freedom, which we see as a universal value and we can see as threatened by and in Muslim societies, core French values are particular to France. Likewise with almost every other European society. The lack of any serious emotional commitment to freedom among Europeans means that Europeans simply don't notice or care about future threats to their freedom that are looming on the horizon. What they would care about, however, is actual disruption to their own (myopic and self-indulgent) way of life.

Take an absurd character like De Villepin. If all the little De Villepins in France, who are now growing up and looking forward to attending L'Ecole Nationale d'Administration, found their paths somehow blocked by Muslims they'd be seriously angry. If all the characteristics of the French way of life which one can't avoid noticing when visiting France were to be displaced by Muslim habits and attitudes, the French would be angry. But, because they lack the commitment to the universal outward-looking value of freedom, I bet you your bottom dollar that, unlike us, they wouldn't notice the threat to their own way of life until the threat started manifesting itself in actual disruption to it.

What happens at that point is the issue I was drawing attention to in my post. I think that, were European societies to get to the point where the native population's sense of its own identity was actually being damaged by Muslim influences, there would be a very visceral and violent reaction to those Muslim influences.

This is because it's only at that point that we can expect Europeans to react to Muslims at all. You or I can look at the Taleban (and not just Muslims but also, say, the Chinese) and even from thousands of miles away see them as antipathetic to our whole way of life, and a genuine menace. So long as communists and Islamic fanatics exist, our core value - freedom - is under threat, in a way that Frenchness is not threatened by the existence of those regimes.

I think two consequences flow from this.

1. The likelihood that European societies won't do anything about their Muslim problems until such problems begin to actually disrupt the 'native' European culture means that any attempts to address these problems will take place at a time when there are far more Muslims in Europe than there are today. This is likely to make the eventual 'reckoning' more serious and may lead to some sort of civil conflict.

2. The lack of any real commitment to freedom means that the European reaction to the Muslim problem, when it finally does emerge, will be less restrained than the reaction in the United States.

We can characterise these issues as a fight between freedom and tyranny; the French will only be able to characterise it between Frenchness and an Islamic identity. That would make it more personal and specific to them, and more nation- and racially-based, than looking at it in terms of freedom-tyranny makes it to us.

Same goes for all the European countries, and we know from bitter experience that people fighting to preserve their national or racial identity fight dirty.


I'd love to hear from our European readers on this. Is this guy right?

I have a feeling he is.

I have been saying for quite some time now that the West is not going to lose this war. The question is, will we lose our humanity in winning the war. We, in the West have a long history of "fighting dirty" as this man puts it. Truth is, I pity the poor Muslims once we finally wake the fuck up.
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3 Comments:

Blogger kepiblanc said...

I think he's right. But there are certain differences across Europe. For example my country (Denmark) is no doubt the least dhimmified. Consequently the Muslims here keep a low profile - at least for now. Then, take nearby Sweden : the absolutely most cowed, oppressed and censored people in all of Europe, with a Muslim population approaching 20%. In Swedistan there is one ruling party, and one only (OK, they have 6 or 7 with different names, but they're all alike) and that party effectively controls the press and media so no critizism of Islam is allowed. Nevertheless, the Swedes feel all the horror of Muslims immigration, with rates of violent crime 4 times higher than Denmark - especially rape and gang-rape.

Are Swedes any different from Danes ? - Well, the old saying here is : "Swedes are like tomato-ketchup. You can shake and shake and nothing happens. Then, suddenly the whole content comes out at once."

The question is : For how long will Europeans stand all this shaking before they erupt ?

Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:25:00 pm  
Blogger Mirco said...

I'm italian, and to a minor extend, here the problems with muslims are bearable.
I, also, think that the european reaction will be very strong.
At the end of the '70, the "Brigate Rosse" terrorists were simpatized and excused from the Communist Party "PCI".
Their attacks were played as from "self declarated" Brigate Rosse (hinting they were not real communist) or from "misguided" political activists.

Then, after the BR started to arrassing people in the factories, they killed a few sindacalists that opposed them.
After this, the reaction of the PCI was very extreme.
They changed their wiev from making excuses to super hard liners.

I expect that this will be repeated in the same way.
Italy is a very polarized country. The leftist are always leftist and the righist are always rightist.
Hard times will polarize it more.
Any big muslim attack will polarize the politics and the people against the muslim in a hard way.
When this happen, muslims will have time to pack and leave, if they will be lucky.

I feel the rest of Europe will behave not very differently.
This is like the water in a cup is bringed under 0°C.
It can rest liquid, if nothing disturb it.
But the first shock will froze it immediatly.

Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:05:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was going to post a comment here, but then I decided to put it up directly at Atlas Shrugs. You can find it there, actually you can find two of them. Basically I say (once more) that it is a mistake to talk about "Europe".

Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:08:00 pm  

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