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Friday, May 19, 2006

Pope Benedict And The Jews: A Warning To All Christians

I recognize that Infidel Bloggers Alliance is a blog made up of Christians, Jews, atheists, and even, at one point a believing Muslim. So, I try to refrain from bringning up my own personal religious beliefs. However, today I have to do so.

If you think I am full of it, please tell me. That's fine. I still want to hear from you.

However, I feel the need today to call out my fellow Christians, and IBA is the biggest pipeline I have to do so. So, here goes.

A blast from CUANAS past. This is a post I did on Benedict, shortly after he was made Pope:

Much has been said in the past 24 about the New Pope and his relationship to the Jews. The media is making a big deal out of the fact that he was a member of the Hitler Youth. The truth is, all German children were enrolled in the Hitler Youth. The Popes father was an ACTIVE ANTI-NAZI, which caused him to have to pack up and move on several occasions.

The Popes whole family was anti-Nazi. The media is bringing up this Hitler Youth stuff because the media does not like the fact that the Pope is a Christian. They would rather that he be a mushy New Age hypocrite like themselves.

Too bad for the media. The Pope, Mr. Ratzinger, is actually one of the best Christian friends the Jews have ever had. I am surprised to find how much his ideas dovetail with my very own. Here is an excerpt from a very long paper, entitled The Jewish People and Their Sacred Scriptures In The Christian Bible, much of it written by The Pope, Cardinal Ratzinger himself:

Personally, Paul continued to be proud of his Jewish origin (Rm 11:1). Referring to the time preceding his conversion, he says: “I advanced in Judaism beyond many among my people of the same age, for I was far more zealous for the traditions of my ancestors” (Ga 1:14). Having become an apostle of Christ, he says of his adversaries: “Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they descendants of Abraham? So am I” (2 Co 11:22). Still, he can relativise all these advantages by saying: “These I have come to regard as loss because of Christ” (Ph 3:7).

Nonetheless, he continues to think and reason like a Jew. His thought is visibly permeated by Jewish ideas. In his writings, as was mentioned above, we find not only continual references to the Old Testament, but many traces of Jewish traditions as well.

Furthermore, Paul often uses rabbinic techniques of exegesis and argumentation (cf. I. D. 3, no. 14). Paul's ties to Judaism are also seen in his moral teaching. In spite of his opposition to the pretentions of those who kept the Law, he himself includes a precept of the Law, Lv 19:18 (“You shall love your neighbour as yourself”) to sum up the whole of the moral life. 332

Summing up the Law in one precept is typically Jewish, as the well-known anecdote about Rabbi Hillel and Rabbi Shammai, Jesus' contemporaries, demonstrates. 333 The resistance mounted by the majority of Jews to the Christian preaching produced in Paul's heart “great sorrow and unceasing anguish” (Rm 9:2), clear evidence of his great affection for them.

He said that he himself was willing to accept on their behalf the greatest and most inconceivable sacrifice, to be branded “accursed”, separated from Christ (9:3). His afflictions and suffering forced him to search for a solution: in three lengthy chapters (Rm 9-11), he goes to the heart of the problem, or rather the mystery, of Israel's place in God's plan, in the light of Christ and of the Scriptures, without giving up until he is able to conclude: “and so all Israel will be saved” (Rm 11:26).

These three chapters in the Letter to the Romans constitute the most profound reflection in the whole of the New Testament on Jews who do not believe in Jesus. Paul expressed there his most mature reflections. The solution he proposed is based on the Scriptures which, in certain places, promised salvation only to a “remnant” of Israel. 334 In this phase of salvation history then, there is only a “remnant” of Israelites who believe in Christ Jesus, but this situation is not definitive.

Paul observes that, from now on, the presence of the “remnant” proves that God has not “rejected his people” (11:1). This people continues to be “holy”, that is, in close relationship with God. It is holy because it comes from a holy root, the ancestors, and because their “first fruits” have been blessed (11:16). Paul does not make it clear whether by “first fruits” he means Israel's ancestors, or the “remnant” sanctified by faith and baptism.

He exploits the agricultural metaphor of the tree when he speaks of branches being cut off and grafted (11:17-24). It is understood that the cut off branches are Israelites who have refused to believe in Christ Jesus and that those grafted on are Gentile Christians.

To these — as we have already noted — Paul preaches humility: “It is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you” (11:18). To the branches that have been cut off, Paul opens up a positive perspective: “God has the power to graft them on again” (11:23); this would be easier than in the case of the Gentiles, since it is “their own olive tree” (11:24).

In the final analysis, God's plan for Israel is entirely positive: “their stumbling means riches for the world”, “how much more will their full inclusion mean?” (11:12). They are assured of a covenant of mercy by God (11:27,31).

I've been called a heretic for saying such things. Well, now I have the Pope to back me up. I absolutely agree with the Pope on this. Always have. My heart tells me this is true, and this is why I call the Jews, My Brothers in the Faith.

I believe the choice of Cardinal Ratzinger as Pope could very well be a hinge upon which history will turn. He is exactly the Pope needed to counter the problems our world is facing today.

Todays Commentary:

There is one other very important thing to note which Paul writes, in the passage Benedict quotes here. It is a warning:

... they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
22Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.

--- Romans 11: 20-22

Taking into account the post below, about Iran passing a law to force Jews to wear yellow insignias (as they were also forced to do by the Germans, in the days leading up to the Holocaust), it is wise for any believer to understand the curse that is leveled at those of us who would be "arrogant" toward the Jews.

Believe me, to ignore them in their time of peril is even worse than arrogance. The Christian Church, the Body of Christ, stands ready to suffer the consequences if we remain silent.

You have been warned.
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Blogger American Crusader said...

Jews will wear yellow stripes;
Christians will wear red stripes; and Zoroastrians will be forced to wear blue stripes.
At the Canadian Embassy, the ambassador said that this was not a question to be answered here. Obviously Iranians think that this is an internal decision and doesn't care about world opinion.

Friday, May 19, 2006 6:29:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The final stage of history will be the subjugation of all Christian countries under Islam and the extermination of every single Jew - this according to the Palestinian Authority (PA) religious leader during Friday's Sermon.
The Jews are so evil, Ibrahim Mudayris teaches, that they cannot be subjugated like the Christian countries, and therefore the only solution awaiting them is death - literally the extermination of every Jew. In his words: "The day will come and we shall rule America, Britain, we shall rule the entire world, except the Jews. "

"The Hour [Resurrection] will not come until the Muslims make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!"
He explains that the fulfillment of the often-preached Hadith means the extermination of every last Jew is Allah's will and is, thus, inevitable."

From http://www.likud.nl/extr362.html

Friday, May 19, 2006 8:33:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Thanks for that link, ROP.

Friday, May 19, 2006 9:17:00 pm  
Blogger forrestshalom said...

'My heart tells me this is true, and this is why I call the Jews, My Brothers in the Faith.'

keep in mind that nobody is saved apart from being born again by personal faith
in Christ Jesus. john chapter 3, john 14.6 etc.

Friday, May 19, 2006 10:40:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a golden post. Thank you.

Saturday, May 20, 2006 4:48:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tss. You are really hate filled dombo's.

I am happy to say that over here in the beautiful city of Amsterdam an inter-religious groep of all world religions is working together. Not only Christians and Jews, but Hindu, Muslim as well.

Active women inform eachother about the specialities of their faith by attending the services in the houses of G'd.

Your warmongering is horrible and not in line with real Chritianity or whatever you believe in...

Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:50:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

And, you ought to know, because you are a Christian.

Didn't you tell me you were an atheist?

So, Ahmadinejad quacks like Hitler, and walks like Hitler, etc., but you don't think he IS like Hitler, apparently.

Either that, or you think it was wrong of us to destroy the Third Reich as well.

Is that it? Are you a deadhead pacifist?

Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:57:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad for the media. The Pope, Mr. Ratzinger, is actually one of the best Christian friends the Jews have ever had.

I am glad to hear that YOU feel this way that you are attempting to comprehend the peril that Jews and Judaism once again face.

But, the Pope [sadly] has just taken up with the muslims again and is stressing the 'need' for Israel to reduce the size of it's HUGE country [45 miles x 9 miles -appx] and give even MORE over to the terrorists of the world.

I am not going to say the Pope is anywhere near the likes of Hitler but, as is true with many young people that grew up within that ideology, some bits and pieces stuck in their subconscious no matter how hard they try to get it out. I cannot say this is true of the Pope, but as a Jew who has of late been under constant assault of the Messianics and Evangelicals, and by the Pope's new "Hebrew Catholics" [which is the catholic version of evangelicals], I can tell you honestly:

I don't trust any Christians for any reason at all. I try to trust them in business but I am constantly on guard and never can feel that they are truly my friends.

I want to believe they will be there if we get attacked;

but, watching Bush and the rest of the Quartet dance to the tune of HAMAS,

watching Catholic Churches and Priests in Belgium harbor Muslims in their churches and allow the muslims to put up their flags, rugs, statues or what have you in the church and worship in the Catholic church, and CAMP in the Catholic church including building little campfires INSIDE the Catholic Church WITH THE BLESSING OF THE VATICAN

and, in watching the Protestant Churches in Belgium follow suit

and, in watching the violent attacks on the synagogues and the Jews in Belgium and France being ignored by the police and the churches

Nope. This does not inspire me to believe any Christian when they talk about the "love of the jesus" and all that crap about how Paul was a "good" jew. Paul was a Hellenistic Jew which is to say he was a Zealot (which he admits by your own quote) which was an idol-worshipping type who was born of a Jewish mother. That was and is not a "good" Jew by any stretch of the imagination.

But, I'm not here to discuss your or my religious views.

I just want you to know that I am pretty much in the mainstream when it comes to "trusting" Christians.

It's only been 60 years and no grandparents, aunts, uncles, of many of my friends to get their family history from since we last trusted Christians. So, it's a bit too early to expect much, yet.


Sunday, May 21, 2006 3:55:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

I don't blame you, my friend. I don't trust my fellow Christian either.

Look at the Forrest Shalom quote above. According to him, you are going to hell. He has no doubt of it.

It is a short step between condemning a person to hell, and deciding that they are too much to bear when one is being mortally threatened.

I am sorry to say, but it appears to me we Christians are, once again, going to let our brothers in Abraham down.

Maybe we don't deserve to be called brothers in Abraham.

Sunday, May 21, 2006 3:55:00 pm  

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