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Sunday, January 21, 2007

Storm Track Disinformation: Muslims – Soul Searching or Mental Illness?

At a recent debate over the battle for Islamic ideals in England, a British-born Muslim stood before the crowd and said Prophet Mohammed's message to nonbelievers is: "I come to slaughter all of you. We are the Muslims," said Omar Brooks, an extremist also known as Abu Izzadeen. "We drink the blood of the enemy, and we can face them anywhere. That is Islam and that is jihad."

But in the same debate, held on the prestigious grounds of Dublin's Trinity College in October, many people in the crowd objected. One dissenter said: "These people, ladies and gentleman, have a good look at them. They actually believe if you kill women and children, you will go to heaven," said one young Muslim who waved his finger at the radicals.

"This is not ideology,” one young Muslim man said waving his finger at the radicals. “It's a mental illness."

But a Joe Gandelman at the Moderate Voice, who considers himself a centrist, took issue with that dissenting opinion.

Sadly, it is not an ‘mental illness’ at all and calling it like that denies the very real danger this ideology poses to non-extremist Muslims and to non-Muslims. It is not a mental illness, it is a very dangerous ideology, that appeals to quite some young Muslims for different reasons....There is a battle going on for the soul of Islam (in Europe), so much is clear.

Well, Mr. Gandelman, I disagree. That battle over Islam today is not over its soul – but its mind.

I’ve written quite about Islam and mental illness. The struggle between the Islamists and those moderate Muslims of Islam is not over Islam’s soul – but over its mind.

Here’s just one sign of why I think Islam is a mental illness and produces bizarre perceived offences.

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15 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a minor little detail.

Dublin is in Ireland, not England.

;)

-John

Sunday, January 21, 2007 6:55:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISLAMANAZIS CLOSED ANTI-ISLAM SITES.



My anti-Islam blogs INFERNO = ISLAM and DYSTOPIA finished being HACKED.



It looks like a hacker on service to the Islamics erased anti-Islam sites.


They put out also the site JahMusic, which was linked to my 2 deleted anti-Islam blogs.

Also hacked my third blog with my photos.




At same day, the periodic site Mídia Sem Máscara ( Media Without Mask) was blocked 2 times.

The right-wing newspaper, which supports the War on Terror, is mine main information source for the files, with endless number articles attacking the islamism.


They already have my name and my face.

To any moment, I can appear dead.

Or then, sooner or later, I’m going to disappear.

Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:42:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Islam is a highly contagious mental illness that spreads by inducing violent aggressive behavior in its victims, who in turn infect others with this raging, mind-destroying meme.

To paraphrase Churchill, Islam is the memetic equivalent of the rabies virus.

Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:58:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the reference to Churchill's comments comparing Islam with rabies:
http://www.gerrycharlottephelps.com/2006/11/young_winston_c.html

BTW, the French word for rabies is 'la rage'. Very approriate in view of the raging Muslims we see so much of when anyone insults their tribal totems.

Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:12:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More on Islam as a mind-virus: http://home.btclick.com/scimah/memes.htm

Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:18:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Hey ROP,
Are you Buddhist? That Meme theory thing is from a Buddhist site.

Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:41:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pastorius,
I don't go much by identity-politics, but if I had to tie myself down I'd be culturally a Judeo-Christian, but philosophically a Graeco-Buddhist rationalist of the school of Nagarjuna.

Christianity and Buddhism have much in common - especially a vulnerability to implacably aggressive jihad-crazed barbarians.

Monday, January 22, 2007 12:30:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

ROP,
I'm a Christian. In school, though, I studied Philosophy and Religion. I like Buddhism. I've studied it a bit, and even do meditation as part of my prayers. Meditation is an enormously helpful practice.

On the other hand, it seems to me Buddhism is an unhelpful ideology as the background of a nation state, because it inevitably leads to complacency and aquiesence to evil.

People don't take the ideologies of religion seriously enough. They have consequences. Obviously, that's the subject of this blog, isn't it?

Monday, January 22, 2007 12:40:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Buddhism is an unhelpful ideology as the background of a nation state, because it inevitably leads to complacency and aquiesence to evil."

In Buddhism there is no such 'thing' as evil, therefore one canot aquisesce to or from evil.

In Buddhism 'evil' is an adverb or adjective applying to actions of body, speech and mind , but never a noun.

If you seriously search for 'evil' as a thing in itself you will never find it. Evil is a qualifier applying to actions or states of mind


Buddhism teaches that a physical or verbal action is evil if it causes unnecessary suffering to any sentient being, and a mental state is evil if it has the potential to do so.

Adolf Hitler wasn't evil because he was intrinsically evil. He was evil as a result of his actions.


Same thing in Christianity - By their fruits ye shall know them.

Monday, January 22, 2007 1:02:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

The difference is that christianity has an eschatology which tells us of triumph over evil, so we know that we are supposed to fight against evil.

The problem with Buddhism is that it tells people that the way to attain enlightenment is to accept things the way they are. Buddhism tells people that the central reason for pain is desire.

Desire is good, acceptance is bad, in my book. What do you think? Do you think I'm wrong.

It seems to me the evidence is abundant on what kind of civilization this ideology produces.

Of all the religions it seems to me Buddhism causes less problems than the others, I will say that.

Monday, January 22, 2007 1:28:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are many schools of Buddhism just as there are many versions of Christianity - quietist vs activist. 'Engaged Buddhism' certainly does not teach the acceptance of things as they are. The emperor Ashoka was the first 'Engaged Buddhist'- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edicts_of_Ashoka .

The causes of suffering in Buddhism are not desire but the three poisons - attachment, anger and ignorance.

Attachment isn't the same as desire and certainly not the same as love.

Attachment (to persons) is 'How can you make me happy'. Love is 'How can I make you happy'. There is nothing wrong with desiring the welfare of others, as Ashoka demonstrated with his welfare programs.

Monday, January 22, 2007 7:50:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Hey ROP,
You may be right. I will restudy the issue. It seems to me the most common forms of Buddhism in the Asian world, from what I can tell, teach what I have have discussed here.

If there are some schools of Buddhism which do not teach what I discuss here, well then, good on them.

Certainly Hinduism, which Buddhism grew out of, has a docrtine of war, so it would not surprise me that some schools of Buddhism would not propose reasons for war.

Christianity, of course, has the whole "turn the other cheek" idea, which leads many to believe that we whould not fight. That's a misunderstanding, but many people believe it.

Pacifism is a sick idea. It can not be practically distinguished from fascism or totalitarianism because one says, "I'm going to force you to do this," and the other says, "Ok, you can force me to do this."

Monday, January 22, 2007 9:02:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

ROP,
Look what I found in the news this morning:

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article2171679.ece

I forgot to mention that I have had the experience of healing myself of colitis using only meditation.

So, I know meditation works. It is a wonder. I try to explain it to everyone I ever know who suffers from stress-oriented physical maladies (which most maladies are).

Monday, January 22, 2007 3:07:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pastorius,
Thanks. That's quite fascinating. Buddhism is often put into the category of 'religion' by westerners, but in fact it also contains philosophy and applied psychology.

Buddhist meditation, apart from calming the mind, also aims to reduce anger, attachment and ignorance. So Buddhism must be the diametric opposite of Islam. No wonder they dynamited the Bamiyan Buddhas.

Monday, January 22, 2007 5:21:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Until a person actually does meditation for a few weeks, they will not understand how a man can heal himself using it, or how a man can become happy using it.

If you have done it, then what you realize is that you learn to control your mind, rather than allowing your mind to control you.

The first thing I became aware of is the multiplicity of thoughts that are constantly flowing through my head all at the same time. My mind is a cacaphony. And, I am a relatively organized thinker compared to most people. But yes, my mind has music going through it, thoughts, anger, images, memories, etc. all just going like a pack of wild animals.

When you meditate you learn to recognize the various streams of thought and feeling, and you learn that you can quiet them. But, you don't only learn to quiet them (because only a Buddha would be able to do so anyway), you learn to accept them and not fight with them.

Then, you learn to use them creatively. And then you also learn that these various feelings actually get centered in varios parts of your body. And, that is how you can learn to heal yourself.

To someone who hasn't practiced meditation, what I am saying will sound mystical. But, to a person who has practiced it, it will sound practical.

That's funny, isn't it?

Monday, January 22, 2007 6:45:00 pm  

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