Wednesday, May 07, 2008

CIA view now: U.S. 'at war' <> EU only sees a local security challenge ..prelude to decline and collapse


WORLD TRIBUNE:
WASHINGTON -- The intelligence communities of the European Union and the United States are moving apart in their perception of the Al Qaida threat.

CIA director Michael Hayden said the intelligence agencies of the United States and the European Union view differently what he termed terrorism and other issues. Hayden said his government regarded Al Qaida as part of a global threat while EU members focused on law enforcement.

That global threat would be the UNDERPINNING of Al Qaeda, radical jihadi Islam and those who support it's GOALS if not always its means. We cannot save Europe. They have to save themselves, and the solution will ALWAYS, COMPULSORILY involve BOTH having more children, and ceasing immigration. I see no sign of this, and I believe we had better plan accordingly, and so should an EXTREMELY isolated Israel.

"They tend not to view terrorism as we do, as an overwhelming international challenge," Hayden said. "Or if they do, we often differ on what would be effective and appropriate to counter it."

In an address to Kansas State University on April 30, Hayden referred to a recurring complaint by the U.S. intelligence community of its EU counterpart.

The CIA director asserted that the gap in perception on security issues between Brussels and Washington was growing.

This guy just warned Congress in closed session about the loss of sovereignty in American decision making due to foreign investments in both private and public instruments. I think I like this guy.

"Many of the disagreements we have are centered on threat perceptions and the tactics used to thwart perceived danger," Hayden said. "So, for example, while we share the view that terrorism is an urgent danger, we disagree on how best to confront it."

Still, Hayden said U.S. and EU intelligence cooperation was closer than ever. He said the greater the collaboration the "greater [the] opportunity for disagreement."

"The United States believes it is a nation at war, a war that is global in scope, and requires, as a precondition for winning, that we take the fight to the enemy, wherever he may be," Hayden said.

Here we diverge. I think both the people and the politicians here want to believe that we are NOT at war, and want to behave accordingly. Edward's 'bumper sticker' philosophy on the war.

"In much of Europe, terrorism is seen differently: primarily as an internal, law enforcement problem, and solutions are focused more narrowly on securing the homeland."

Calling Sen . Kerry....

Unlike the United States, the EU has been challenged by the influx of North African Muslims, the fastest growing minority on the continent. Hayden said there are 16 million Muslims in Europe, or three percent of the overall population, with a birth rate of at least twice that of ethnic Europeans.

"Differing views over the nature of threats and the right tactics to address them are likely to impact U.S.-Europe relations for much of this century, and the effects will be felt on many levels -- from intelligence and law enforcement to military cooperation and foreign policy," Hayden said. "Managing the disagreements and tensions that arise in the absence of a unified vision will complicate what has traditionally been America's easiest relationship."

Hayden warned that the United States, regarded as a melting pot, was not immune to the Muslim threat in Europe. Without specifying, the CIA director did not rule out the prospect that new immigrants would refuse to accept American democracy.

"Our status as the world's melting pot is a source of national pride and strength," Hayden said. "Unless we are careful, though, that pride and experience might create a blind spot for us. We might misunderstand or discount the potency of ethnic nationalism in other parts of the world -- a mistake that could have serious implications for U.S. security and policy."

Hayden said the CIA has sought to recruit officers with a range of language skills and overseas experience. He said officers with skills in Arabic, Farsi, Pasto and Urdu were required in the war against Al Qaida.

"We need more experts in Islamic studies and in Middle Eastern politics, culture, and society," Hayden said. "Add South Asia, too."

You can bet that all this is going to increase the perception of the USA as the most dangerous nation in the world since we will be pressing (I hope) for actions to defend our people and our way of life, while others will perceive only a need for a few arrests for isolated individual 'kidnappings' and other bothers. We need to face the future CLEARLY..growing isolation, and growing pressure to CONFORM to decline and collapse.

2 comments:

WATCHER71 said...
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WATCHER71 said...

So Epa, a very astute article as ever, I concur about the influx of African Muslims into Europe, my part of London (Brixton) has changed in nature due to an influx of Sociopathic Somalians....we have not naturalization process in the UK, so they just turn up from a war zone and proceed to rape and pillage et al as in their homelands...ON the EU, I presume you mean what we call the continent...? (always a tough one this, we, the UK, are in the EU but not really with our heart and soul. ). I see a complete disconnect between those who govern and those who have to live with the governance. Brown recently took a battering in local elections, basically because they have no clue about the reality of life in the uk, Fuel is at £1.10 per litre, as I recall that about $8.50 a US Gallon, or there abouts, 50% of which is actually state tax, and still the British people won' grow a pair of balls and march on Downing street! So if the disconnect is that great in governance it seems to me that the intelligence community takes their direction from the government they work for, if the disconnect is so great hen what I have always perceived as the Government's reluctance to tackle this issue as an attempt to keep a 'lid' on the situation but increasingly I feel that they really don't have a clue what is going on. Just more bad governance to compound the previous 30 odd years or so. On having children, the social destruction wreaked on the British public by Thatcher and then New Labour has literally priced large sections of Britains out of actually having children. The social structure of the Muslim family favours child rearing in an environment where the cost of living is so insanely high. America can't save Europe...? It must piss you all off being EXPECTED to ride over the hill and save the day....again. All I can say is this, we are disarmed, virtually living in a police state, protest is virtually outlawed unless you are Muslim and the population is left with a political spectrum so narrow that the opposition present an even worst option than the incumbent government....with really only racist parties capitalizing on the political vacume that remains. I think there is a lot of sense in the article, aka European intell viewing the situation as more of an internal policing issue, when infact it is global CULTURAL war. It is not just Ethnic Europeans that need to have more babies, it is NON MUSLIMS who need to have more babies and yes, as I have said before, ALL Islamic immigration needs to end. NOW. The continentals hate any one who isn't THEM anyway, so the issue is really about the contribution each member states Intel communities make to the global effort...As far as I'm aware we only have Europol, who are ineffectual. a Europol officer could not place me under arrest, they have no EU wide jurisdictional authority, nothing like the FBI etc so there is a mis mash of MI5, MI6 etc all working in an unintegreated, probably compartmentalized way. I am not being complacent, far from it infact, when I say that Europe will never be fully Islmasised....why? Because it will be Nazified way way way before the Muslims take over....and I am not sure which scares me the most...