Here is a small part of
The Ballad of Caucasian Rage Boy !
(exposing the EDL as nazis)
Once there are no more Muslims to kill and they are done hiding their Jew hate and appropriating Israel as an excuse for their own fascist nationalism who the fuck you think they gonna turn all that jihoodie rage onto?
Violence brought Birmingham to a standstill as protesters rampaged
through the city centre, hurling bottles and bricks.
Part 2 coming later
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BTW?
It is not me in those photos.
Do what you need to do to convince yourself it is not fascism when you do it.
Debunk me all ya want, it aint me.
Also
I am not taking down my post.
If Pastorious wants to take it down it is up to him.
Have fun.
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Most_Likely_You_Go_Your_Way_And_I_ll_Go_Mine_/23259442
Shiva,
Who are the guys with the face masks and the HH on their jackets?
I'm with Shiva on this. People are angry and fed up. The reaction Baba concentrates on is extremely limited in numbers, and by youth. As the average family who is equally fed up find themselves somewhat 'protected' by their able-bodied energetic - what does Baba call them? - footballers? - since the average Joe can expect only 'restraint' from what qualifies as a policeman today - you will see more and more fed up accountants, bus drivers, grocers, teachers etc. join the ranks. The anger is there. The desire to maintain and stand up for freedom and equality (for all) without accepting that the weakest/meekest expecting to be beaten into submission needs to be supported.
It's Babba in the mask. She calls it a Bronx Hijab.
REPENT.
BabbaZee,
No, I don't want you to take your post down.
We don't take down posts here.
This blog is about argumentation and the process of critical analysis, as much as it is about the Jihad and it's leftist enablers. It is a chronicle of the process of our thinking as a group.
Here, we put up posts, disagree with each other, and proceed on through topics, and sometimes, we gradually change our opinions, and sometimes, we just disagree and continue on in our opinions.
I have always purposefully invited people with whom I do not share a worldview to write here, because I think that while I don't agree with them on their worldview, they bring something original to the table when it comes to their knowledge and expression on the topic of why Jihadism is dangerous to Western Civilization.
So yeah, we don't take posts down here.
Shiva,
How are they supportive of aggressive muslims?
Akak
Akak,
Are you asking how the UAF are supportive of aggressive Muslims? Is that your question?
No. Shiva states Babba's post to be supportive of aggressive Muslims.
That begs further explanation if you know Babba at all or not at all.
The HH is a garment brand logo for Helly Hansen. If they start showing up with the rune flags and "88" on their foreheads, now you have trouble. Insignia, flags, tattoos, etc. that show organized fascist participation are more serious than a few rowdies throwing the one-arm salute.
I think Anonymous points out something important and it is different from the experience here in the US. British neighborhoods appear to be under more intense threat from Muslim "youths" than we usually see here. So it's not surprising that the young "footballers" are on the front lines. But unless there is involvement by the middle class there is danger of opposition to the Islamists becoming exclusively associated with the "footballers". We've been holding "Tea Parties" over here including one march with about a million participants that resulted in no arrests or even any litter, and still they try to call us a "mob" of "fascists".
In this country I'm more concerned about a lot of the New World Order conspiracy craziness that keeps mutating all over the place than groups like the KKK. Amongst all the other lunacies there's some boilerplate antisemitism there. Babba, are you running into this sort of thing as well?
Amongst all the other lunacies there's some boilerplate antisemitism there. Babba, are you running into this sort of thing as well?
RAR
Yes.
All evil apparently meets at least once daily at Jew Hate Junction no matter what costume it wears or what it calls itself
Well, I would like to know who the guys are wearing the Helly Hanson jackets then.
If it is guys in the EDL, then given the fact that the EDL does, indeed, have roots in the BNP (because as I have said before, some of their founders are from the BNP), then we know what the HH means to them.
But, it appears to me those guys may be with the UAF. I say that because it looks like they are on the Jihadi side of this demo.
One would wonder if there are a bunch of anti-Semites in the UAF. We already know they are fascist thugs.
The combination of HH jackets and hoods on the face is a testimony to anti-Semitism. It is not conclusive evidence, but it sure is damning.
Anonymous,
I agree.
I can only assume Pastorius, that it's because Babba is not siding with EDL & crew? This does not make it supportive of the other.
AKAK
This does not make it supportive of the other.
correctamundo
I agree with Babba, sooner or later everything meets at Jew-Hate Junction. (Anybody else read Philip Roth's alternate-history novel "The Plot Against America"? Excellent. The poor man must be hiding under the couch by now.) You get "thinking" like "let's get rid of the Muslims by getting rid of the Jews then they'll have nothing to riot about". As Epa points out in the post above, every kind of wacko theoretical spin is easier and more fun than having to take the time and effort to learn the facts and find the truth. And without that what it will all come down to in the end is a gang war.
Why don't we all just join their forum ... and just make up our own minds....
HERE
I had a lot of fun with some folks who live in the persian gulf this way, and learned an awful lot.
I know she supoorts Maobama though.
Cause she didn't support McCain
Gang-bangers wear hoods and "colors" and most of them are anti-semitic too if it comes down to that. But jew-hate isn't what defines most gang-bangers. It may not define these footballers yet either. But there's bigger danger from fascist elements here because gangs are about power and money, but this is still about freedom vs. Islamofascism. The leftist allies of the Muslims are trying to destroy that distinction by making it all about "race". Anybody who does that on "our side" just backs up their claims.
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Games_Without_Frontiers/14465914
Epa, ever notice how Muslim dating ads keep turning up on anti-Islam web sites?
Anon, most of us didn't "support" McCain. It was a matter of the lesser of two evils, or at least of one evil and one old doofus who might at least slow down the Horror Express.
Or Abdul
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/English-Defence-League-Demonstration-In-Birmingham/Media-Gallery/200909115375841?lpos=UK_News_News_in_Picture_UK_News_Region_5&lid=GALLERY_15375841_English_Defence_League_Demonstration_In_Birmingham
May-be Dennis the Menace
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://vladtepesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Muslims-in-Birmingham1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://vladtepesblog.com/%3Fp%3D12337&usg=__bGiSqTFzgHBpC55pF5-DCy3VPws=&h=348&w=634&sz=81&hl=en&start=44&sig2=btEwA7fJPsW9Bc6eRm3WLg&um=1&tbnid=CFZE5xZnhljdjM:&tbnh=75&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3DEnglish%2BDefence%2BLeague%2B%2Bbirmingham%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D36%26um%3D1&ei=Mz_YSsWfKYSE6wPOn_yJBg
Same ol' same ol'.
The EDL are harmless, freedom loving lads, defending middle class British families. (When? Where? What families have they defended? I don't see any families in those pics, just a lot of masked and tattooed yobs, fighting with the British police. Not jihadis. The. British. Police.)
Futhermore, if you dare question them, you are a filthy, Zionist untermensch, and we know how to deal with you kind! Er, did we say "untermensch"? No, no, what we meant was you support Islam. Yah, that's the ticket! We love the Jews, honest! And, since you've criticized those fine lads of the EDL, you should just be silenced, immediately! Take down your posts! Achtung! Schnell!
The EDL/BNP supports Western culture. Except, you know, all that freedom of speech stuff, and things like that.
Same ol' BS.
/IguanaDonna
Nobody who actually reads Babba's blog, by the way, would accuse her of supporting Islam. But, I guess, the EDL, just like the Left it claims to despise, tries to silence any opposition by name-calling. "You support aggressive Moslems!" "Commie! Liberal!"
Same ol' BS.
/IguanaDonna
By the way, Shiva, it's going to be interesting, seeing the reaction of your new EDL comrades to your non-white wife, and any children you might have.
I strongly suggest you continue to stay where you are, far from these guys. You might not find them the lovable, family-defending soccer lads of your fantasy, if you actually met up with them.
/IguanaDonna
OK, I went over there and registered under a different username. Now what do I do?
Pastorius said:
"BabbaZee,
No, I don't want you to take your post down.
We don't take down posts here."
I say I am VERY relieved to thar that. I thought you were going to take down my Carpenters post. . .
Why does this debunking make us feel like we'll be the ones with a bomb stuck up our ass instead of the jihadis. No thanks
32 tangos down in aerial operations in South Waziristan, woot
Anonymous said...
I know she supoorts Maobama though.
FRIDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2009 3:02:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Cause she didn't support McCain
Pastorius says: Well said.
RRA,
You said: Gang-bangers wear hoods and "colors" and most of them are anti-semitic too if it comes down to that. But jew-hate isn't what defines most gang-bangers. It may not define these footballers yet either. But there's bigger danger from fascist elements here because gangs are about power and money, but this is still about freedom vs. Islamofascism. The leftist allies of the Muslims are trying to destroy that distinction by making it all about "race". Anybody who does that on "our side" just backs up their claims.
I say: You should write a post on that subject.
U, because the EDL just might be the ones doing the bomb sticking?
Man, it's gonna be real fun if the EDL, or BNP, ever do get power. Then they can just shut down everybody who disagrees with them. But they'll be doing it for our own good. To protect us. From the jihadis. (But who'se going to protect us from them?)
/IguanaDonna
Shiva,
You said: Well he must be some really tough son of a bitch if he was EDL to stand alone amongst 40 moslems and they give him a free pass
please look at the pix more carefully
His name could be Mohammed
I say: Shiva, you must not have read the rest of my comment, cuz that's what I said.
However, I thought maybe you knew which side the guy is on. Apparently, you don't so we are left knowing next to nothing.
It is likely he is UAF.
Question, why are UAF wearing face masks and HH logos?
Is the UAF made up of a bunch of anti-Semites? If you have any evidence of that, we will post it here.
By the way, Shiva, while I appreciate what you are trying to do here, I think your post is as obscure as Babba's below.
Apparently, your point is, we will know them by their appearance.
I do not agree with that. Appearance is not tacit evidence of mindset or intent. Appearance is appearance and that is all.
However, if anyone can explain to me why the UAF are wearing face masks and HH logos, that would be appreciated.
IguanaDonna
I would feel pretty safe from the EDL, considering how moslems are about those who leave Islam.
I try to keep myself informed, and it seems that there is more of a problem with honor killing and threats to apostates in England than here in Indonesia.
am I debunked yet?
Iguana Donna said: Nobody who actually reads Babba's blog, by the way, would accuse her of supporting Islam. But, I guess, the EDL, just like the Left it claims to despise, tries to silence any opposition by name-calling. "You support aggressive Moslems!" "Commie! Liberal!"
I say: Yep.
It reminds me of how I have been called a Communist by the BNP in the same thread as I've been called a fascist-racist by Jihad-supporting Muslims.
MR,
No, I won't take the Carpenters video down. However, it is HIGHLY offensive.
WOOHOO! My work here is done!
:)
Jaco
It is not obscure
Babbazee has used a photo that has been very heavily clipped so as the HH see very clearly seen, and the same time obscuring the fact that the guy is either a moslem of UAF
Then she is using this photo to try and link the EDL to the White Power movement.
I have provided three links to the the guy in the correct context
and the photos I supplied prove that he does not belong to EDL
You ask why "However, if anyone can explain to me why the UAF are wearing face masks and HH logos, that would be appreciated."
No body here can explain or would be willing to explain
Okay let me try
The UAF need to have a reason to justity themselves, They have to have proof there are nazis within the EDL so their attacks and violence are justified. The problem is, if there are any nazis
within the EDL they will be hard to find, because they are very savvy in hiding then selves, and wear expense brand names There fore the name casuals, they even go as far to remove all labels,so as to slip by police at football fixtures. They leave the bottoms on, so as to identify themselves to each other, be it friend or foe.
A Casual would not wear HH as it is a dead give away, the same so wearing green flying jackets and Dr martins
So how do the UAF/Searchlight get evidence that there are nazis in the EDL, easy, the get some-one to put on a green jacket, or HH garb and there we go nazi
For most people including you and Babbazee and most bloggers do not know all the quirks are easily taken in by this.
Luckily in this case this guy was caught on the media
So how many people where assuming the the guy was from EDL
I had already seen this picture before Babaazee posted it, and it was on an anti EDL site, as soon as I saw it alarm bells started ringing
Any-way this is from a newspaper that hosts anti-BNP shriek box Melanie philips
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211414/Anti-fascists-clash-right-wing-protesters-Birmingham.html
The picture that Babaazee posted orginated from the Daily Star UK
Unforunatly it has been taken down
Shiva,
You said: Babbazee has used a photo that has been very heavily clipped so as the HH see very clearly seen, and the same time obscuring the fact that the guy is either a moslem of UAF ...
It would have helped if you had explained that in the body of your post.
As it is, your post just looks like a montage, and considering the barrage of bizarre posts here in the past 24 hours, it makes us look like we've collectively lost our minds ...
which I guess we have.
Carpenters post notwithstanding.
LOL
Shiva, these clashes seem to follow more the pattern of gang wars over here, and mostly the people who know about those are gang specialists, law enforcement, and the gangs themselves. We haven't seen anything widespread at street level like this specifically relating to Muslims. Over here they're trying to sneak CAIR members into congressional offices but they aren't punching each other out on the Capitol steps much yet.
We're not losing our minds. As the clashes between Islamists and Westerners do get closer to street level it gets more difficult to sort out the factions. We've got the same thing at, say, Tea Parties where in addition to "mainstream" TP-ers you see LaRouchies, leftist infiltrators, special interest groups, anarchists, New World Order conspiracy theorists, apocalyptics, Mayan calendar 2012-ers and who knows what else showing up, and that was just in Portsmouth. The age range is wider and the violence level lower than what you are experiencing in Britain.
I would like to know more about what non-Muslim people in places such as Birmingham are experiencing on a daily basis, such as harassment of unveiled women, interference with other religious celebrations, noise levels from mosques, etc. How do the non-Muslims cope on a daily basis.
You could be right
But one thing that stands out judging by the comments nearly every body chose see what they wanted to see or what Babaazee wanted them too see and that was EDL are nazis
I missed the HH nazi connection, maybe due the alarm bells started ringing as soon as I saw the brand mark
I do know if editing the main post to make it more clear is the right thing to do after there have been this many post ?
What do you think ?
It would help the post to be more clear, in my opinion. Just add it as an update at the top.
The Zimbio link you gave me is a Getty Image on which Getty comments that this guy is an "anti-fascist demonstrator."
Amazing.
so the upshot here is one photo that was marked EDL that I found and used was cropped and was not EDL
but all the rest if thse photos are EDL
and this means I am nuts and debunked?
ooooo
ok
Call me when I am debunked again thanks
zzzzzzz
OK
There are 24 photos in the post
2 are of nick griffin and dewinter
and if the one that debunks all accusations is not an EDL guy even though it was marked that way when I got it, OK
that only leaves 21 more photos of the EDL acting like they attend Palestinian Pyrotechnic institute next to the people they say they hate.
debunkledunkilicious!
So I took him off the post.
he was redundant anyway
strange how all the jihoodies look alike these days nu?
You may now resume your regularly scheduled hatred of me!
I think you should put on a mask and scream in my face that'll teach me
"Any-way this is from a newspaper that hosts anti-BNP shriek box Melanie philips"
LOL!!!
I think maybe someone got them a problem with
Uppity Jewish Bitches
Melanie Phillips is a "shriek box" because she is anti BNP?
Game over
Debunk your own ass
What's the facsination with HH? Helly Hansen was selling outerwear before anyone had heiled a hitler.
Are we going to relive the K-Swiss conspircies of the late eights?
Iguanna Donna, "The EDL are harmless, freedom loving lads, defending middle class British families. (When? Where? What families have they defended? I don't see any families in those pics, just a lot of masked and tattooed yobs, fighting with the British police. Not jihadis. The. British. Police.)"
Well, here is part of an announcement I received from the EDL today:
5) Leeds is an opportunity for EDL to broaden its appeal. It may have been started at the initiative of fearless football fans who are concerned about the political direction that their country is taken. Their action and courage in the face of violent opposition will have emboldened others to get involved with the cause. EDL should be a group that comprises as many different components of our society as possible. It needs to move to the next stage of involvement. EDL needs to show that it is a family organisation with men, women, and people of different age groups, and indeed different ethnicities, involved in its ranks. Even though the movement has just begun, it has already had a big impact - but it must develop and diversify if our goals are to be realised.
Macus,
You really don't think there is any connection between HH and Heil Hitler? Did you know that in the U.S. skinheads tattoo 88 on their bodies for Heil Hitler.
These guys, in my opinion, are not wearing Hellie Hanson for fashion's sake. They are wearing it for statements sake, and apparently, they are either Jihadists or members of the United Anti-Fascists.
Oh, wow, Just Cause! An actual announcement from the EDL, saying they want to broaden their appeal! They're going to show they're a family organization! Taa-daah! Hey, would they try to mislead us?
Actually, this just proves my point that the EDL hasn't defended much of anybody yet, they're not really champions of the British Middle-class, or British families and they're not the fearless anti-jihad fighters they're being pushed as.
If they were really defending ordinary people, they wouldn't need to churn out memos, urging members to start acting more like family guys; they'd already be doing it. There wouldn't be any need for PR. If they already embraced large segments of the population, they wouldn't need to work on it; it would be obvious. And they'd be doing it because they really did embrace all people, not because they think it's time to move onto the "Next stage of involvement." (WTF???)
As I said before, I don't see these guys throwing themselves in front of jihadis, to protect British kids, or defending anybody. I see them fighting British cops, making obscene gestures and running around with burning torches. (Again, WTF???)
I'm sure these guys have the jihadis shaking in their shoes, u-huh.
By the way, apparently Geert Wilders showed up in England today, and had large groups of Moslems protesting him. Was anybody from the EDL there to counter-protest, or defend him? Or were they too busy cranking out memos, as to how they're going to pass themselves off as good ol', people-embracing, family guys?
/IguanaDonna
Oh, they're wearing it for a statement alright, Pastorious.
And I think we know what their statement is.
/IguanaDonna
Iguanna Donna, "If they were really defending ordinary people, they wouldn't need to churn out memos, urging members to start acting more like family guys; they'd already be doing it"
So how did you all organise the tea parties then? Did they just happen to be at the same time there are normally tea parties that were already happening before Obama decided to indebt the next several generations of Americans or were they a timely reaction to a situation of significant importance to the ordinary masses where a certain level of coordination was required?
http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/
"Mission Statement
The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets."
So Darrell Waltrip was a g**d*** nazi all this time. If the guy in the pic wants to convey a pro-hitler message, then he'll have to try harder. Wearing rain gear from a company founded in 1877 doesn't prove anyone to be a nazi. Likewise Ronald McDonald's laces don't mean that he's a killer.
This is such a simplistic exchange amongst people who have failed to save their own Republic//// and have opinions about Britain....of which they know very, very , little.
"So yeah, we don't take posts down here."
Uh, well yeah... however, if a person posts an opinion that goes against a particular piece..... Several of Y'all will delete the posts 100% of the time.
And... Let's not even talk about complaints to made by IBA bloggers to YOUTube regarding "Islamophobic" videos...
(Then there are the ridiculous comments supporting violent Jihadis... made to piss off those of us who really care.)
The Baba-Shiva discussion is unique because it was allowed to take place at all. Just am observation... many other blogs only publish that which agrees with them......."Back in the USSR"....
Michael,
You said: Uh, well yeah... however, if a person posts an opinion that goes against a particular piece..... Several of Y'all will delete the posts 100% of the time.
And... Let's not even talk about complaints to made by IBA bloggers to YOUTube regarding "Islamophobic" videos...
I say: I would imagine you are being sarcastic, right? Or has someone actually said that shit about us? If so, I missed it.
Pastorius my friend,,,,you know very well that there are those who do not allow any but positive messages of abject agreement regarding their posts on IBA. All opposing views are deleted.
An don't even breach the subject of complaints to YouTube .
Iguanna Donna
I see them fighting British cops, making obscene gestures and running around with burning torches. (Again, WTF???)
And where have you seen them EDL running around with burning torches,could you supply us with a link.
I am calling you out on this one
Give us a link
Dag
Just a little hallo,
Srange you popped up here, because just a few days ago I mentioned you in one of my comments
Are you still running with the blue scarf project
Take care
Shiva/infidelk9
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