Monday, February 15, 2010

Rage Alert: Marines Complain of Outrageously Strict ROE During Current Offensive, Taliban Fighters Firing at US Troops, Drop Weapon and Walking Away With No Fear of Death...

From Weasel Zippers:

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Not one arm tied behind their backs, but both arms and their legs chained to the ground....

MARJAH, Afghanistan (AP) -- Some American and Afghan troops say they're fighting the latest offensive in Afghanistan with a handicap -- strict rules that routinely force them to hold their fire.

Although details of the new guidelines are classified to keep insurgents from reading them, U.S. troops say the Taliban are keenly aware of the restrictions.

''I understand the reason behind it, but it's so hard to fight a war like this,'' said Lance Cpl. Travis Anderson, 20, of Altoona, Iowa. ''They're using our rules of engagement against us,'' he said, adding that his platoon had repeatedly seen men drop their guns into ditches and walk away to blend in with civilians.

If a man emerges from a Taliban hideout after shooting erupts, U.S. troops say they cannot fire at him if he is not seen carrying a weapon -- or if they did not personally watch him drop one.

What this means, some contend, is that a militant can fire at them, then set aside his weapon and walk freely out of a compound, possibly toward a weapons cache in another location. It was unclear how often this has happened. In another example, Marines pinned down by a barrage of insurgent bullets say they can't count on quick air support because it takes time to positively identify shooters.

''This is difficult,'' Lance Cpl. Michael Andrejczuk, 20, of Knoxville, Tenn., said Monday. ''We are trained like when we see something, we obliterate it. But here, we have to see them and when we do, they don't have guns."

4 comments:

cjk said...

I can't in good conscience expect men to fight under such circumstances because I wouldn't and therefore if these are the rules then we should leave Afghanistan IMO.

If we do leave Afghanistan than we will indeed see real recruitment upswings for Al Quaida and their ilk.
Real recruitment and enemy morale boosts, not the bullshit non-existent fantasy recruitment that the MSM blabbers about for political purposes.

Total said...

I agree, with cjk. This is war, civilians unfortunately get killed. This does not mean kill every Afghan you see, but when a probable threat appears, you have to obliterate it before it obliterates you. With such pathetic rules of engagement, why are we endangering the lives of America's young men and women? Get the job done or leave. *Conclude with Epa's General Sherman photo and caption...

Anonymous said...

rules of engagement only a libtard politician could have dreamed up in concert with a lawyer....

christian soldier said...

the RoEs are going to get more and more of our BEST killed...look at what _Lone Survivor_author Marcus Luttrell has stated same during several speeches...as have many other of our military...
C-CS