It's their right.
Who are we to deny them their rights.
From AP:
Obviousy, he also has the right to his jobless benefits. Jobless benefits are not a privilege. They are a right as well.STOCKHOLM – Sweden's unemployment agency has been found guilty of discrimination for expelling a Muslim man from a job training program because he refused to shake hands with a woman.
A Stockholm court Monday ordered the Public Employment Service to pay 50,000 kronor ($6,700) in damages to an immigrant from Bosnia who lost his jobless benefits when he was kicked out of the program.
Citing his faith, the man had refused to shake hands with a woman when he was interviewing for an internship. The agency said his behavior was part of the reason he didn't get the position, and decided to exclude him from the program.
The court ruled that the man was discriminated against because of his religion. It wasn't immediately clear whether the ruling would be appealed.
I wonder if he's a Swedish citizen.
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BEWARE OF ISLAM!
The Judicial Police officer and the Interpol are investigating a denunciation by a 36 year old businesswoman from Paredes (Portugal), who says she has been threatened with death, sequestrated, during three days, in Dubai, and forced to give away the quota of the business that she had in this country.
After having spent moments of terror in Dubai, at the hands of the Lebanese businessman who is accused of having sequestrated her, the businesswoman says, even in Portugal, she and her family have been receiving death threats, by fax.
Everything began nearly six years ago, when the businesswoman, owner of a factory of furniture, in Paredes (Portugal), participated, in Dubai, in several international markets of furnishings. In the first visit the businesswoman established a commercial agreement with a distributor of Pakistani furnishings, but when she noticed that he was copying the original pieces in Sharjah (one of seven Arab emirates), and didn’t comply with the established agreement, decided to stablish a branch of her business in Dubai, in 1997.
As in that country any foreigner who wants to stablish a business must do it with a local partner, with the majority quota in the commercial society, the businesswoman contacted a “sponsor” that became owner of 51 % of the society.
A year later, an Albanian friend introduced her to the 30 year old Lebanese businessman, and his 29 years old sister. When a good relation was established, the businesswoman sold 24 % of the business to the Lebanese, for 75 thousand euros, and an year term was stablishe to pay it. The objective was to implement the business of furnishings in the Arabic Peninsula, and that Paredes’s factory would produce the furnishings for Dubai. Last year, the Lebanese visited Paredes’s factory and, some time later, it was his sister who went to see the industry. “They were at my home, I always treated them well and we reached a height in which there was already complete confidence. They were visiting the factory at their own will”, said the businesswoman who, besides opening the doors of her house, visited the house of the parents of the Lebaneses in Beirut (Lebanon). But the business began to run badly …
The first orders for the Dubai, a value of 150 thousand euros, were not paid. Without the money of the sold quota and, meantime, written up on behalf of the foreigner; and without the money of the product, the businesswoman decided to set foot on the way and “flew” alone, in the beginning of this month, for Dubai, showing by surprise in the offices.
She says that she noticed quickly the theft of money and falsification of documents. The Lebanese was irritated and warned her that she was not going to receive any money. “He threatened me with death and said to shut up, because I would have to pass gratuitously my part of the business to his name and would keep on supplying him with products, otherwise my family was going to be killed”, she explained, and was forced, on the next day, to go to a notary and to pass her quota to him.
“He showed to me in his computer videos and photos of my factory, of my house, of my children, of my husband. He knew completely what was going on in the factory and at home, I even suspect they entered in the computer system”, said the businesswoman. “I went trough bad moments and was afraid that they were killing me. I couldn’t even believe I was back to Paredes (Portugal). We already changed the computer system of the factory, put it under vigilance and I walk in panic because I fear for my family”, she says. “My luck, in the Dubai, was that I had left the passport in the offices of a few Swiss lawyers. When I noticed the situation I tried to ask for help, but I was always warned that their word was worth more than mine”
http://jn.sapo.pt/PaginaInicial/Policia/Interior.aspx?content_id=1396375
Does the woman (who was snubbed on the handshake) not have a similar right to not be discriminated against on the basis of her sex?
I guess not, especially if she can't be bothered to lodge a complaint of her own.
Yet no Swedish court is going to lose sleep over fears that this woman might blow shit up if they didn't rule in her favor. And outraged western women marching in the streets in protest and solidarity all over the free world? Heh, I make big funny.
Freedom isn't free. So don't rely on others to protect it for thee. Someone may (like the agency in the story) - and it's wonderful when they do, but just don't rely on it.
Anonymous,
Here in America there would be no doubt that this man has the right not to shake hands with a woman because of his religious beliefs.
That being said, I think many of us are tiring of Islamic strictures. And, we have the right to be angered, and to call them out on what we feel is discriminatory.
Like I said in the post. He has the right. It's their right.
It's bullshit, but it's within their rights.
Pastorius,
Okay, this is just stupid. Is the Swedish government made up of cowards or have they forgotten that discrimination is not always wrong? If this person is unwilling to accept notions such as the equality of men and women, than he deserves to be kicked out. You may have a right to practice your religion, but not when it involves violating other people's rights. The old saying goes, "you have a right to waver your fist, until your fist touches comes into contact with my face." Besides, the people of Sweden might have to deal with much worse discrimination soon, if they are not willing to make a few exceptions and allow some discrimination agianst people who will not accept the most basic concepts of individual rights and western values. The people of Sweden as well as the rest of Europe, ought to be up in arms over things like this.
Just to be clear, the unemployment agency, whether they realize it or not, wasn't JUST standing up for this particular woman who was far too impure, by virtue of her sex, to even shake hands with. No, they were standing up for all of us - for human decency and equality - not unlike Geert Wilders is doing.
And Pastorius, I agree, forcing anyone to shake hands, for any reason whatsoever, would tread on a different freedom - the freedom to personally avoid types of human contact that might spread biological infections. But the west could and still should howl about it when the snub stems from religously inspired superiority and discrimination. And angry women should still march in the streets to draw attention to it.
...but I was always warned that their word was worth more than mine”
it's sharia, the islamic bullshit laws.
Damien,
You wrote: You may have a right to practice your religion, but not when it involves violating other people's rights.
I respond: It is not a person's right to have their hand shaken by another person.
Muslims have the right to act like assholes, and they do.
We have the right to tell them they are assholes.
Damien,
To answer your question, the Swedish government is made up of cowards. They've shown this level of dhimmitude on a variety of occasions.
Anonyous said: the west could and still should howl about it when the snub stems from religously inspired superiority and discrimination. And angry women should still march in the streets to draw attention to it.
I say: Yes, that is absolutely correct.
Pastorius,
Maybe he is not violating her rights by refusing to shake her hand. But you said it yourself, that calling for Sharia while living in the west is sedition, so although he has a right be a jerk, just because he's religion tells him to do something or he thinks his religion tells him to do something, weather it does or not, it does not give him the right to do it. We should be denouncing people like this and under at least some circumstances we have a right to discriminate against people because we think they are being jerks. Maybe the government doesn't, and shouldn't have that right, but we do, under at least some circumstances. For one thing, I can tell you for a fact that I would not invite this guy to my house.
Damien,
You said: calling for Sharia while living in the west is sedition
I say: yep, but you and I are among the comparatively few who understand that.
You said: under at least some circumstances we have a right to discriminate against people because we think they are being jerks
I say: Yes, as individual business owners, we do have the right to discriminate against this kind of behavior. If you don't like a person, you don't have to hire them, or serve them. But, he was attempting to access a government service. That's a different thing. And, stupid as it is, Welfare is a right not a privilege.
You and I are in agreement. I just have to be honest about the law.
Just to be clear, the unemployment agency, whether they realize it or not, wasn't JUST standing up for this particular woman who was far too impure, by virtue of her sex, to even shake hands with. No, they were standing up for all of us - for human decency and equality - not unlike Geert Wilders is doing.
not unlike geert wilders?????
pastorius, muslims have no right to discriminate against women!
they discriminate against women and kiss bush's lips! LOLOLOLOLOL
p.s. oh i wish bush had herpes... LOL!
this thing about rights it's a one way street for muslims:
Christian Churches Fed ‘Islam Lite’
Experts say Muslim Brotherhood carrying out domination strategy in U.S.
An expert on the advance of radical Islam in the United States says the Muslim Brotherhood is effectively employing a strategy of presenting “Islam lite” to organizations, including Christian churches.
Dorothy Cutter, coordinator for the Hartford, Conn., chapter of Aglow Islamic Awareness, part of a national chain of Christian fellowships that study how Islamic law motivates Muslims to participate in jihad, said she heard of a United Church of Christ congregation where an Islamic speaker was a guest.
She contacted the church to see if she would be allowed to present some of the harsher truths about Islam.
“The pastor pushed the material back at me and said, ‘It’s people like you who are responsible for an escalation of the violence,’“ Cutter said.
Cutter said organizations such as Hartford Seminary are sending imams “to condition members of the area churches to believe the light version of Islam.”
Steve Emerson, director of the Investigative Project for Terrorism, concurred.
“Hartford Seminary is a place that has been compromised by the Muslim Brotherhood, and then there’s the Center for Christian and Muslim Understanding at Georgetown University. The center is a de facto arm of the Muslim Brotherhood,” Emerson said.
FUCK iSLAM!
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