Sunday, June 09, 2013

whats in a name.. eh?

Santa Monica Shooter Identified – Middle East Name – John Zawahri

from gatewaypundit
Santa Monica Shooter Identified – John Zawahri
john zawahri
John Zawahri lays dead on the sidewalk after shooting people and killing his own father and brother on Friday. (RYOT)
Zawahri had mental issues as a juvenile.
Authorities kept his name from the public for several hours.
The LA Times reported:
The suspect was identified by five law enforcement sources in Washington and Los Angeles as John Zawahri, in his 20s.
Other sources with knowledge of the investigation said detectives believe the shooting was sparked by a family dispute of some kind but emphasized that the investigation was still in its early stages.
The suspect’s past mental health issues occurred when he was juvenile, the law enforcement source said, but no further details were offered.
John Zawahri killed himself, his brother Chris Zawahri and his father Samir Zawahri. He killed five people yesterday.
UPDATE: Glenn Reynolds added: SO I JUST WATCHED AN NYC LOCAL NEWS STORY (PIX 11 NEWS) ON THE SANTA MONICA SHOOTING, and they never mentioned the shooter’s name, which is John Zawahri. Instead they spent a lot of time talking about guns.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Search the identity "Zawahri" and notice the absence of any links beyond blogs. Beyond a handful of posts, there is only one facebook (not the shooter) who shows up.
The flag and mosque image on that facebook page certainly DOES NOT suggest Zawahri was Christian.

Nicoenarg said...

Anon, the Facebook page belongs to one Mohamed Zawawi. Zawawi IS NOT Zawahri. The Facebook page doesn't tell you anything about the shooter.

Zawahri is the same as "Zawahiri" (ring a bell?).

BUT the names do suggest they were "Christian". We can't try and pin everything on Muslims.

On that note though, I have mentioned this before that Arab Christians are as anti-Israel and anti-America as Muslims are.

This incidence however does not point to terrorism. He killed his own family. That sh*t isn't jihad or crusade. This idiot was crazy.

Anonymous said...

Mental illness and jihad are mutually exclusive? Not by a long shot. Not saying Islam and its underlying training had something to do with it but a little digging by the man would be nice....

Anonymous said...

Self correcting by my kindle turned msm to man, but still appropriate...

Anonymous said...

Mental illness and jihad are mutually exclusive? Not by a long shot. Not saying Islam and its underlying training had something to do with it but a little digging by the man would be nice....

Nicoenarg said...

Attaching "Jihad" to anything middle eastern sounding is, with all due respect, the stupid thing yet the anti-Jihad blogosphere has done.

The guy is, as far as we know, a freakin Christian. We might want to get our sh*t together before we turn into liberals (who blame Christians for everything that goes wrong, even stuff that doesn't have anything to do with Christianity).

I am not one to cry "RACISM" at every term, but this sure as hell is bordering racism.

Nicoenarg said...

damn it...at every turn*, not term

Nicoenarg said...

Gateway pundit's link says "sudden jihad syndrome". I'm glad to see the so called counter-jihad movement has decided to shove their head far up their asses like the MSM.

Jihad is the sixth pillar of Islam. Way to water it down by applying the term to every and any crazy act.

If you think Jihad = mental illness then good luck dealing with it.

Pastorius said...

I think you would agree, Nico, that Jihad can dovetail with mental illness, especially in the case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome, wherein a disturbed Muslim, inculcated in the insanity of the Islamic ideology may suddenly seize upon the concept of Jihad to attempt to right all the wrongs he sees, including his mental illness, which he may blame on the Infidel.

Nicoenarg said...

Pasto,

Yup I do agree with that. But Jihad can not be equated with mental illness. And MOST of the time the reason for jihad is NOT mental illness.

However here the use of the word jihad seems misplaced altogether since there is NO evidence the guy is even Muslim.

Nicoenarg said...

Also Pasto, killing of one's own family is NOT jihad, unless someone can provide evidence that this guy was a recent convert to Islam then killing his own family would definitely be jihad (assuming his family didn't convert and he killed them).

But with the information we have right now, the counter-jihad movement latching on the word jihad just because he is middle eastern makes them sound stupid.

Pastorius said...

Jihad is not mental illness.

Most Jihadists are very clear headed about what they are doing.

Christine said...

I agree, we need to wait to make any assumptions regarding this.

Could be the guy was just nuts and killed his family and self.

And definitely he could be a christian.

Just like a lot of you here, I want to make sure that every single case that is jihad, is called out as such.

But this one... I don't know.

Anonymous said...

He very well could be Christian and it could very well be a case of the crazies.

My main complaint is the Pravda like nature of our news. We have to read between the lines. We have to become investigative reporterS just to get to the real story.

If it was a right winger we would know who his proctologist was but if it's a leftist or a Muslim we are left with a story that ends with "nothing to see here move along"

Christine said...

You're exactly right rumcrook.

It's crazy that we have to peel back the layers of every news story.

Pastorius said...

Yes, rumcrook, point well taken.

Anonymous said...

we are still being told with a straight face that fort hood was just workplace violence.

Anonymous said...

If his family converted to Christianity would it be Jihad?

"Whoever changes his religion, kill him."
~Sahih Bukhari 9:84:57~

Nicoenarg said...

Yeah. Interesting. Better yet, what if his family converted to Judaism....oooh way more interesting.

OR what if his family was Martian and he was doing jihad to protect the human race.

Oh I don't know, what if his father was in fact satan himself and his brother was the little satan, while he himself was the littlest satan...littlest satan converted to Islam and then killed the other satans!

I agree with rumcrook that we should be vigilant in regards to what the media feeds us (his example of fort hood is a pretty good example of that) but in this case it is pretty apparent that some people only see JIHAD here because he's middle eastern.

It's despicable.

Whether its proven later WITH FACTS that this was in fact jihad by a Muslim or not, the reaction we are seeing here in my opinion are, so far, the worst and makes me feel like I'm associated with people no different than liberals and Muslims, just on the other side of the fence.