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Jews in Rome outraged over boycott call
The Times quotes Jewish community leaders in Italian capital as saying trades union proposal to 'identify and boycott' Jewish-owned shops was reminiscent of anti-Semitic racial laws adopted by MussoliniYnet
Jewish community leaders in Rome expressed outrage over a trades union proposal to "identify and boycott" Jewish-owned shops in the Italian capital in protest of Israel's operation in Gaza, The Times reported Thursday.
The proposal was put forward by Giancarlo Desiderati, leader of the Flaica-Uniti-Cub union, which represents 8000 shop assistants in Rome, the report said.
According to the London-based newspaper, Gianni Alemanno, the mayor of Rome, condemned the boycott call, and Jewish leaders said it was reminiscent of the anti-Semitic racial laws adopted seventy years ago by the Fascist dictatorship of Benito Mussolini in imitation of Nazi Germany, under which only "Aryan" shops were allowed to open.
Asked if he was aware of the comparison, Desiderati was quoted by The Times as saying "we know we will have everyone against us, but we cannot pass over in silence what is happening in Gaza".
He said his union had already urged its members to boycott Israeli products, and boycotting Jewish-owned or Jewish-run stores was a logical next step, according to The Times.
Muslim leaders apologize
Desiderati added that he and his supporters were drawing up a list of Jewish shops, "though it might be better to publish a list of streets in which a majority of the shops are Jewish and ask people to avoid those streets when shopping".
"For fifty years we have been concerned for the Jews because of what they suffered in the Holocaust, but now it is time to be concerned for the Palestinians, who are the Jews of today", he was quoted as saying by the newspaper.
The Times further reported that Muslim leaders in Milan said they had apologized to Cardinal Dionigi Tettamanzi, the archbishop of Milan, for an incident last weekend in which Muslim demonstrators burned Israeli flags during a mass protest against Israeli actions in Gaza which ended in unauthorized Islamic prayers in front of Milan cathedral.
The protesters broke through a police cordon to reach the square, the report said. The Times said Asfa Mahmoud, head of the Islamic Cultural Centre in Milan said he and other Muslim spokesmen had asked for a meeting with the cardinal to "clarify" what had happened and express regret.
Comment from EE:
This union in Italy, like the unions in the UK, were very silent when thousands of rockets were launched from the Gaza Strip into Israel. It's only when Israelis say that enough is enough, and that they don't want Israelis to live in constant terror from rocket attacks, that these unions bestir themselves and want to exclude Jews, even their Jewish neighbors, as a means of collective punishment.
The classical steps of antisemitism are: demonization of the Jews, exclusion of the Jews (an example of which is what this union wants to do), expulsion of the Jews (the main targets for expulsion of the Jews are not currently in Europe; they are the half million Jews living in Judea, Samaria, and east Jerusalem), and murder of the Jews (the Europeans who are anti-Israel support this by supporting Hamas and delegitimizing Israel's self-defense).
Do they love the Palestinians? I don't think so, since they were silent at the murders of Palestinians by Palestinians. And why don't they protest the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields? Rather their attitude is not shaped by love of the Palestinians, but by something else.
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Exactly. 11/8/38 the day before. We are way too close to a point of no return. . .
midnight rider,
We may already be at the point of no return
This may get a lot of attention because of the hints of nazi, but I recall similar calls to boycott businesses with Danish connections during the Cartoon Wars.
For that matter, both during the build up to the election and after, there have been a string of boycott calls in California relating to Prop 8 - gay rights groups call for boycotts on the businesses of people who supported it, while christian groups call for boycotts on the businesses of people who opposed it. Both sides then accuse the other of blackmail.
Boycotting is an accepted form of protest - the only issue here is that of punishing individuals for an action they had nothing to do with, just a vague religious tie to. Incompetence, but that's all.
I only hope the Jewish shop owners of
Rome take immediate steps to fire any
union member.
Damien -- I do agree with that. Time (soon, I fear) will tell for sure.
Suricou Raven -- I respectfully disagree. Boycotting is an accepted form of protest BUT when you are targeted because of your religion and for that reason only it crosses a line. Taken with all the other now overt anti-semitism it is more than a trend or protest. The Danish protests were no more okay than these. In both cases the hint (more than a hint) of violence was there.
Epa -- and they should throw them a big double boner on the way.
And burn the union cards on the steps of the nearest mosque.
So I read here that Mohammedan leaders apologized to the archbishop of Milan for demonstrating and praying (to satan) in front of the cathedral. Does anyone here doubt that these same liars are capable of sacking and burning this same cathedral while sodomizing and forcing the cardinal to swear allegiance to allah if they could? Absolutely outrageous comments on my part, but none the less I believe this.
If Israel presses forth and actually achieves victory in Gaza, the Muslim motherfuckers might actually do just what you describe.
Pastorius,
Maybe if Isreal beats the Palestinians badly enough, it will make them less likely to attack us. If they're going to hate us anyway, they might as well fear us.
Damien, though I like you're thinking and wish you were right these whackjobs REVERE death in the name of Allah. They revere it so much they let their children die for Allah first in front of them. I'm afraid Israel can't just beat them, it must annihilate them for it to stop. But then the next group will come along, from Lebanon or Pakistan or Afghanistan or from right next door.
midnight rider,
you said,
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Damien, though I like you're thinking and wish you were right these whackjobs REVERE death in the name of Allah. They revere it so much they let their children die for Allah first in front of them.
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That's not entirely true. Most of them value their own lives far more then they let on. For one thing, non of the big wigs like Osama bin ladin or Yasser Arafat have become a suicide bombers, and as far as I know, none of the Imams have chosen too as well, although they do support it. Plus there have been many occasions when Jihadists have had an opportunity to fight to the death for Allah and instead fled for their lives. When out gunned many of them seem to prefer to live another day rather become suicide bombers or fight to the death.
Google it:
«Ontario union calls for ban on Israeli professors»
Well of course Bin Laden and Nasralleh and Haniyeh et al wouldn't be suicide bombers they are FAR too important. Every good Jihadi knows that. Someone has to stay behind to teach the children to run in front of mom & dad and protect them from the evil Israeli gunfire, to run to the roof and stop the evil Zionist warbirds, to pull the ripcord in the crowded messhall tent.
You are absolutely correct. Many flee as cowards in the face of firepower, won't take anyone on man to man, and condemn that overwhelming firepower UNTIL it is their firepower in the form of a rocket at a kindergarden or Senior home or a ripcord in a tent or carbomb at a Kibbutz.
Problem is they run and come back to fight again. Which is why I don't think an asswhoopin' will actually scare them into stopping. I just overstated my case a bit.
midnight rider,
Well if we beat them up, and kill large numbers of them enough times, it could act as a significant deterrent.
Anonymous,
you said,
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Ontario union calls for ban on Israeli professors
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Yes but what about Palestinian professors, oh wait they're "oppressed." Well maybe the common Palestinian is, but they're not by the Israelis.
Damien,
You said:
«Well maybe the common Palestinian is, but they're not by the Israelis.»
Precisely.
Anonymous,
Did you see the video I linked to?
Damien -- I'm with ya! Take 'em out in the fucking alley and show them how we do things 'round here. Right -- You get the pitchforks, Pasto the rope, Epa, of course, the torches and I'll bring the beer.
It may indeed act as a significant deterent. Problem is, whenever we (Israel included) finally get it up enough to get it on we go so far then let them off easy (relatively speaking) which is no way to deter of course. "Oh, we can take it again. We know they'll only go so far." Screw that say I. Kick the bastards when they're down then kick them harder still. They'd certainly do so if it were turned around.
I don't think it's cowardice on our part I really think it has more to do with our Judeo-Christian heritage. A "let's stop this nonsense" approach. Not "let's stop this nonsense and make dead sure it never happens again." Instead, we tend to show mercy on someone who's down and can no longer fight FORGETTING he's going to go back hole up heal up and come back at us.
To rough quote one of my favorite movies "Because when it looks bad, and it looks like you're not going to make it, then you have to get mean. I mean Plum mad dog mean. Because if not, you neither win nor live. That's just the way it is." -The Outlaw Josey Wales
That's kinda where we're at now. And we don't seem to collectively have the meanness we need to get through this. I've no doubt you do, Pasto does, Epa, Revere, Travis, IBA does. But the west as a whole? No. We better find it in a goddam hurry. And when That One finally gets in there. . . (the shit's already talking about sitting down with Hamas)
midnight rider,
you said,
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I don't think it's cowardice on our part I really think it has more to do with our Judeo-Christian heritage. A "let's stop this nonsense" approach. Not "let's stop this nonsense and make dead sure it never happens again." Instead, we tend to show mercy on someone who's down and can no longer fight FORGETTING he's going to go back hole up heal up and come back at us.
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Actually, you could argue that during WW2 our society was significantly more Christian than it is now, for example, some states had laws banning the teaching of evolution, as well as prayer in public schools across the nation, people took the church's ethical code more seriously then they do now, and we had a president talking openly about God, without fear of being accused of violating the separation of church and state, yet we were much more willing, to defend ourselves and stand up for our culture back then, then we are now. Did it have something to do with the enemy we were facing or was it that we changed in someway, other than just becoming less religious in general?
Agreed. The enemy we were facing was far more open about it, far more in your face ( at least to the masses as a whole). Islam is more insidious (jihad by litigation) AND we didn't have the media working against us as much then. Also we plain had more respect for each other. "Sir" "Ma'am" "Miss" was more commonplace and not politically incorrect. You tipped your hat to the lady and still CALLED them a lady without fear of human resources intervention, held the door for her or anyone else for that matter (all of which I still do whether H.R. likes it or not. And thus far, after 20+ years at the same place, not a complaint). We were more genteel and not screaming in each others faces trying, not to be heard, but to make sure the other wasn't heard (Alan Colmes is a great example). It allowed us to pull together to face a known threat.
We've lost much of our open Christianity to be sure and I blame alot of that on the boomers (I'm one myself) and the 60's. Peace love and all that. Which doesn't make pressing the issue any easier when they're comning at us. Now they scream to stop when we gave them a bloody nose, let alone when they're down. And we acquiecse. We don't have the meanness, the stomach for the full bloody fight. Bloody knuckles bothers the Starbucks crowd.
The boomers were spoiled and they've spoiled Gen X & Gen 911 even more so.
The Judeo-Christian thing is part of our DNA now, and the screaming left feeds on that subconscious. The mercy we would normally show only becomes amplified just to keep the fucking peace at home. get back in time for American Idle.
Maybe I should put it this way. During World War II we weren't afraid to show our Christianity. And we weren't yet a superpower. The war MADE us that, but not going in.
Now we are and I think sometimes our leaders feel the need, since we are arguably the only one, to pull our punches. Which is just asking to get cold cocked.
G'night my friend. I'll gladly pick this up tomorrow but it's real late thirty here & work in too few hours.
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'They' are also planning similar measures in the UK - writing supposedley 'polite' letters to prominent British Jews asking them to denounce Israel or face the threat of a Judenboykott. It speaks volumes that it is not businesses that trade with Israel that are being targeted in this way, rather Jews themselves.
And the vermin, and their vermious enablers, have the temerity to say that the current situation has nothing to do with religion.
Damien is correct regarding the perception that Israel must be seen to have given hamas a f***ing good kicking. 'They' hate us anyway, regardless. However, it is imperative they 'they' fear our wrath.
And I'm an atheistic Darwinian. I know how the world works.
crowsbeak,
you said,
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'They' are also planning similar measures in the UK - writing supposedley 'polite' letters to prominent British Jews asking them to denounce Israel or face the threat of a Judenboykott. It speaks volumes that it is not businesses that trade with Israel that are being targeted in this way, rather Jews themselves.
And the vermin, and their vermious enablers, have the temerity to say that the current situation has nothing to do with religion.
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I agree, it is the Palestinians that must be condemn and the world should be even more determined to do so, since they have threaten terrorist attacks against anyone who doesn't condemn Israel. Unfortunately too many world leaders, are either cowards or want Muslim votes. There will be no peace in the middle east, until the Arab world is sent the message that any form of Jihad, is futile. Rather than condemning Israel for defending itself, it should be unleashed, and the free world should openly condemn the Palestinians. It was the Palestinians and not the Israelis who refuse to peacefully coexist, and rejected every opportunity to do so.
Damien. Bush, now, included in the cowardice. Voting present on the U.N. cease fire call. Shameful.
Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
Damien said
«Did you see the video I linked to?»
Yes. Thank you.
Hamas are terrorists.
Pastorius said
«Jew-hatred has rotted the brains of Europeans to the point that they can not even process the idea that they are following right in the footsteps of their elders.»
They are following in the footsteps of the elders and of the islamists who, given the chance, won't hesitate to slaughter them.
Anonymous,
you said,
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Jew-hatred has rotted the brains of Europeans to the point that they can not even process the idea that they are following right in the footsteps of their elders.»
They are following in the footsteps of the elders and of the islamists who, given the chance, won't hesitate to slaughter them.
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Unfortunately, I think you maybe correct when it comes to many Europeans. Some of them hate Jews so much that they will often side with Muslims Jihadist, against Israel, despite the fact that those same people hope to one day rule over them with an iron fist.
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