I think IBA has made itself pretty clear on where we stand on this issue.
Melanie Phillips:
Political alienation and the rise of the BNP
Daily Mail, February 23 2009
While the media minutely scrutinise Harriet Harman’s ambition, Jacqui Smith’s expenses and David Cameron’s taste in clothes, a lower form of political pond life altogether is expanding like duck-weed.
Last week, the British National Party won a council seat in Sevenoaks, Kent.
This should make us all sit up and take notice. Kent is not ethnically-riven Tower Hamlets or Bradford.
True, it was a Labour seat on this council that fell to the BNP’s Paul Golding — a charming character whom the party once expelled for allegedly attacking another BNP councillor.
Yet suburban Sevenoaks is not some angry, marginalised working-class area but the placid Tory home counties. This suggests that receptiveness to the BNP’s odious ideas is now spreading into mainstream British life.
Around the country, the BNP is making an ever stronger political showing. Last month, it only narrowly failed to take a council seat in Bexley, South London, and last week it did well in wards in Yorkshire, the Midlands and Lewisham, another South London borough. It is also strongly tipped to win at least one European Parliament seat in the forthcoming elections.
The reason for its increasing success is obvious. Like all populist, neo-fascist parties, the BNP is opportunistically exploiting the failure by the political establishment to address issues of pressing and legitimate concern to the public.
It is making hay with the terminal alienation of the British electorate, not merely from the current Government but from the entire political mainstream. Many voters have concluded that ‘they’re all the same as each other’.
Labour is irredeemably incompetent and sleaze ridden. The LibDems (with the exception of their impressive economics spokesman Vince Cable) are irredeemably irrelevant. As for the Tories, although they are benefiting from the collapse of Labour’s support, there is precious little enthusiasm for them either.
They are seen as no more than ‘blue Labour’ on many social issues, devoid of any big idea to address the economic crisis and — as their relatively muted response to the Home Secretary’s extraordinary expenses scam suggests — up to their own necks in the same kind of fiddle.
At a more profound and altogether more explosive level, however, is the fact that all three parties not only refuse to address the issues that concern the public most deeply and emotionally, but also demonise those who express such anxieties as racists or fascists.
In particular, they have colluded in a refusal to acknowledge that nationalism — or attachment to one’s own country and its values — is a perfectly respectable, even admirable, sentiment.
Instead, anyone who maintains that British culture and identity are rooted in the history, language, literature, religion and laws of this country — and must be defended as such against erosion, undermining or outright attack — is vilified as a racist or xenophobe.
This effectively presents such people with a choice — between being demonised as racists and standing silently by as their culture evaporates.
For Britain is changing before our very eyes. As a result of the current rate of immigration, within half a century the projected steep increase in the UK’s population will be entirely made up of people not born in Britain — most of whom will have come from the Third World.
Meanwhile, the fanatically imposed doctrine of multiculturalism has brought about the erosion or denigration of Britain’s history, religion and identity, leaving generations of children — both indigenous and immigrant — appallingly ignorant of the common culture they need to share.
It is entirely reasonable to want one’s country to express its own culture through its institutions, laws and practices. Yet those who defend this principle are called ‘racist’.
Britain is witnessing an alarming growth of separate Muslim enclaves ruled by a parallel Islamic Sharia law. It is entirely reasonable to want one system of law for all. Yet those who say so are called ‘Islamophobic’.
Recently, refinery workers went on strike over claims that EU law was forcing companies to discriminate against British workers by hiring foreign nationals instead.
These workers were called ‘xenophobic’ by Lord Mandelson and others. But as eminently decent, progressive MPs such as Frank Field pointed out, it is simply antidemocratic for the EU to make it illegal for a nation to put the needs of its own people above those from other countries.
To equate opposition to such overt discrimination against British nationals with protectionism –the barrier to free trade which the BNP demands — is just a monstrous twisting of the argument.
This was belatedly recognised yesterday by the Home Secretary, who said immigrants should not be able to take a skilled job in the UK unless it had been advertised to British workers.
But this is merely to tinker round the edges. Gordon Brown made an ill-advised promise of ‘British jobs for British workers’ — a rallying call of the BNP.
It was obvious that he never meant it; it would be illegal, indeed, under EU law. It was probably just another clumsy attempt to wrap his divisive Scottish self in the Union flag.
But the BNP seized upon the refinery protests to claim that while Brown never meant this promise, they do.
The fact that all these issues are deemed to be beyond the pale gives the BNP its opportunity to pose as the champion of these legitimate concerns while concealing its true thuggish agenda.
For the BNP is truly a racist party which stands for a racially pure Britain. Pretending that it merely wants to preserve British culture, it actually believes that anyone who is not white or is a Jew will pollute that culture.
Its constitution says it is committed to ’stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration’, that it opposes any form of racial integration with non-European people - and restricts party membership to people of white Caucasian, Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and Norse stock.
Its leader Nick Griffin received a nine-month suspended prison sentence in 1998 for inciting racial hatred by suggesting the Holocaust was a hoax invented by the Jews to make money.
Elsewhere he has said: ‘We affirm that non-whites have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land.’
Astutely, he has re-branded the BNP as a respectable nationalist party by attempting to suppress all such talk. He has thus managed to dupe a dismayingly large number of otherwise decent people into believing that the BNP is worthy of their support.
But the real reason for the rise of the BNP is the white-hot fury among voters who feel abandoned and utterly disenfranchised by the entire political establishment.
What makes it ten times worse is that, since the BNP seizes upon genuine concerns, those in turn become demonised as ‘far Right’ ideas — which drives even more voters into the BNP’s cynical and menacing embrace.
But it is a mistake to denounce fascism as the province of the ‘far Right’. It is, in fact, the bastard child of Left-wing thinking. Indeed, even today some of the BNP’s own rhetoric is echoed in progressive circles.
For example, in the U.S., President Obama has been flirting with protectionism; while in Britain, the BNP’s denunciations of ‘greedy bankers’ are echoing across the political spectrum.
Britain — thank goodness - — has a visceral aversion to fascism. But given the alarm and confusion of the times, the danger is that such vilification by liberals and the Left of genuine
grievances and concerns could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
18 comments:
It's funny that, in an article which is condemning of racism, she refers to Gordon Brown's "divisive Scottish self".
Even Melanie Phillips is trapped in the logic of Ethnic Nationalism.
That's astounding.
That being said, I agree with most of her points here, and her essay would be close to a clarion call were it not for that strange slip-up.
The Nazis were as alien to the German voters as the BNP is to the British.
Massive unemployment, a large part of Germany under French occupation, the great depression, the Reichsmark identical to the Zimbabwian dollar. It is the background that made a radical party promising radical solutions acceptable. Austria and Italy have gone way right, a lot of countries in Europe are swinging that way not because the people are extreme right wing but the right is the only party not trotting out platitudes about multiculturism and facing the fact that muslim immgration may mean the death of the Europe they love.
Philips can quite happily take pay checks from the anti-Israeli BBC, yet she is 100% for Israeli nationalism, yet against the British for wanting the same.
Philips will defend to the death the Ethno-Nationalist state of Israel but will attack the BNP for daring to stand for the same ethno-nationalist principles.
Melanie will defend the bombing of Gaza by Israel to defend itself, but demonise the BNP for being a democratic political party that stands in free elections to get voted into power to save Britaim
Philips is simply unable to understand that the bogeyman of the BNP she sees is simply product of her own imagination and the lies of other leftist groups like Searchlight.
Melanie Phillips feeds off the bullshit of other red fascists like Searchlight for her propaganda in order to ensure British ethno-nationalists are kept out of power
Philips cashes in from peddling books like Londonistan about the threat to the West from Islam, yet she attacks the only people and the only political party, the BNP, who are making a stand against islamization
I call this staggering hypocrisy of the most revolting kind, to the point of making her look an idiot
Philipsis is a political schizophrenic.
This is because on one hand as a Jew and a supporter of Israel she has to defend the very same values that she attacks the BNP for holding.
She does this of course because she is a member of the UK Multi Culti La La Landers Network, the collection of fools of all religions, races, nationalities and creeds. Therefore they act to surpress any political movement whose slogan is BRITAIN FIRST.
Whilst Philips supports the fundamental right of Jews to run Israel, she calls the BNP 'racist' for daring to espouse the same position as regards Britain.
In fact Melanis has become almost a fool of the first order
In her ever diminishing ability to disguise her hypocrisy, she is alienating the mass public support that she once enjoyed.
The more her writings are based on her pathetic prejudices, and not on logic, the more she resembles the enemy she is fighting.
Melanie has become as much of a nutter as the hook handed, bearded bigots she says she despises.
Whilst the Islamist nutters pluck ancient verses from some obscure section of the Koran to justify their insanity, so she will pluck some ancient statement of someone in the BNP from the archives of Searchlight and use it to justify her hypocrisy and insanity.
Like the mad Islamists she despises Philips rejects the notion of evolution.
In her utter ignorance of what the BNP is and stands for she simply peddles the myth that the BNP has not evolved politically whilst at the same time being forced to admit that the BNP have evolved politically, professionally, ideologically and in terms of presentation - she admits that our growth and support have grown, but she cannot admit that this is because the party has evolved.
Note how Philips likes to quote the BNP constitution about the party simply defending the rights of indigenous British people from the globalisation process of mass immigration - but she never quotes the law of the right to return of Israel that defines a Jew anywhere in the world as an Israeli and nor does she ever mention the laws that ban Palestinians from living with their wives and husbands in Israel ;
Philips cannot ever tell the truth, as Philips is primarily ignorant of the truth.
Her understanding of the BNP comes via the rest of the red fascist Network in the UK - Searchlight, Lancaster Unity, Stop the War coalition and the rest of the leftard that are working had in hand with the islamists
She cannot admit that the BNP has changed as a political party, as that would mean all her trite and facile, asinine historical quotes from two decades ago would therefore be meaningless
Philips Is coming to the point where her blabber is becoming an insult to the british
Shiva,
You said: she is 100% for Israeli nationalism, yet against the British for wanting the same.
I say: Nope. Here's what Phillips said: they have colluded in a refusal to acknowledge that nationalism — or attachment to one’s own country and its values — is a perfectly respectable, even admirable, sentiment.
This thread is fascinating to me. As a culturist, I have long wondered about the BNP. But, as a culturist, I also know that it is hard to understand a movement unless you are a part of the culture that it lives in. So I cannot tell who the average BNP member is or what they really believe in.
I like some of Phillips points. Calling everyone who has pride in Britain' s heritage and believes it to be a sovereign nation "racist" as well as the shoving of multiculturalism down the throats drives people away from mainstream parties.
This dynamic feeds racist groups. I have seen people say, "okay if you want to call me a racist, I guess I am." They are backed into this corner and want to express themselves and in that need end up using the language of the multiculturalists.
Solution: If we used the word culturism to fight multiculturalism and culturist instead of racist , folks could say, "It is not about race it is about culture." This would allow people to discuss these issues without fear of being maimed as a racist. They could then sound sane.
From what little of the BNP I know of, I have given them the benefit of the doubt and considered them culturist allies who, unfortunately, do not yet use the word. I INSTINCTIVELY do not believe the multiculturalists when they slander someone as racist. It is a ploy too often used.
But I am serous about not being a racist. I believe, for example, that Hindus make better British citizens than Muslims. Skin color is not an issue here. I also believe that Jews can be fine citizens. Whereas calling all racist just leads to black and white demonization, I would hope that culturism would allow distinctions and intelligent discussion. This would undercut the polarization into multiculturalists and racists dominating the debate.
SHIVA!!! Thanks for reading this far. So I really hope that the BNP is culturist and NOT racist. Is that your impression? Please write more about this topic. Thanks!!!
Culturist John
www.culturism.us
Shiva,
There is no reason Britain has to maintain itself as an Ethnic Nationalist state in order to save itself.
Instead, it simply needs to hold onto the Western Principles of Human Rights and equality before the law.
The problems Britain has have nothing to do with race. they have to do with Islam.
If the West would stand for it's principles, we would throw all Sharia-touting Jihadists out of our countries; end of problem.
And, note that that solution had nothing to do with race.
Hey Pastorious, as Brit I can say that it's the Western principles of Human Rights that have got us in this mess rather than being the answer. Its our adoption of Human Rights law dictated by Brussells that have prevented us from defending our culture (Culturalist John nails this point) as imposing our culture on immigrants is deemed racist and unfair. We can't demand that immigrants speak our language because it's against their human rights. We can't demand that they check in their Hijabs at the airport/ferry terminal because it's against their human rights.
What we need to do to survive is renege on our commitment to human rights law just enough to allow us to restore our culture as the dominant one. I'm reminded of the speech Austrailian PM John Howard made when he said something along the lines that we are a Christian country and we will not change, if you don't like, go find somewhere else to live.
Melanie Phillips has let herself down badly with this article I'm afraid. Her book Londonistan was spot on however as others have said, she is criticising the only political party that are actually switched on to the Islamist threat. Granted the BNP has a dark history which includes anti-semitism which I suspect is where her fear comes from but we are at a juncture of history where we have to weigh up the greater threat. I don't for a minute think that the BNP will come to power but I think they'll gain a number of seats which might be enough to wake up Mr Cameron to what the Conservatives in this country actually want.
Whilst the BNP might have reformed to some extent, you always have to factor in that they are a political party and will tell people what they want to hear to gain power. Once in power it's anyones guess whether policies/prejudices of old come back to haunt us.
No, listen, I can't speak for Culturist John, but I think he would say, multiculturalism and Culturism are two entirely different things.
A Culturist would defend his Culture against those who would seek to impose alternate systems of law, and unequal treatment under the law, as happens in the EU.
The problem in Europe is that Europe has let go of it's culture in favor of multiculturalism, which is really no culture at all, and no ideology other than the idea that we should all just tolerate the strange immigrant type peoples.
Let's see if I can say this without bumbling it terribly.
Just because you want to protect your culture deos not mean you turn away every Muslim, every foreigner that comes your way. You don't round 'em up one suitcase each and send them home.
But you need to make it clear that hey, this is our town. You want to live here fine but you play by our rules, not your own. You came to US, ostensibly looking for a better life so don't bring all your old garbage with you and expect US to chnage. You want to live here YOU change.
That does NOT mean you can't have your own tradiitons amongst yourselves AS LONG AS THEY DON'T RUN AFOUL OF OUR LAWS, don't hurt anyone and don't think we have to partake of it if we don't want to.
Now, if you can live by the house rules fine great welcome. If not then turn around now and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Because if you don't play by the rules and try to make us change there will be trouble.
But to just say "You have a Muslim name you can't come in" I draw the line (mind, we will be keeping an eye on you since your brothers have a penchant for taking off heads and knocking down tall buildings). Had America done that we wouldn't be the diverse and wonderful if eccentric country we are.
Pastorius,
You can speak for culturism as a culturist because it is an easy concept and you, my friend, have got it. Yes, culturism is the opposite of multiculturalism.
Also, feel free to assert all you think to be culturist as a good interpretation. We may in fact, disagree on what the best culturist policy.MIDNIGHT RIDER and I agree on policy (see below). That does not mean that we are not both culturists invested in the West's survival.
Just Cause,
I am so glad you agree about human rights speak being applied one way against our sovereignty and our right to be as culturist as other nations.
Rights only come from a culture that believes in them and can afford them. If the West goes under there will be no rights. It seems the abuse of "rights" by muslims is turning us less and less into a civilization that believes in them, let alone will defend them. To protect rights we must put the West first. That means ditching the "human rights" concept. We have culturist rights.
MIDNIGHT RIDER,
I agree with everything you said until the very last paragraph. Then we disagree on the best culturist path.
First, I agree with your early paragraphs about not rounding people up because that would undermine our values and cause chaos. I also like that you seem to be able to distinguish between immigrant groups. it isn't all or nothing with you.
That said, for all practical purposes I disagree with your last paragraph. Other than people who have already had their visas approved and those we give short visas to for business and follow to make sure they split afterwards, I say we should stop all Muslim immigration.
First of all, let us agree that we have a right to. There is no international "human right" to migrate to the United States or the West. I have no right to be a Saudi or a Chinese citizen. This international right simply does not exist. We are a sovereign nation. Just as it is not an injustice or terrible discrimination that I cannot move to Saudi Arabia, it is not violating any international codes to say folks can't move here.
If we agree on the right . . . We have a right to ask what the cost / benefit of letting one more Muslim in is. Remember the job of every government is to advocate for its citizens. I do not want to know how it benefits that individual "seeking a better way of life" (read - more money) or what China wants. The question should be if it helps or hurts America and its citizens.
The potential loss is terrorist attack and the loss of freedom of speech. Beyond that, having more Muslims eats away - as Obama has - at the idea that we have a core culture. it confirms that we have no identity and therefore no identity upon which to base our policies.
Okay, on the opposite side of the ledger from terror, freedom of speech and killing our identity and ability to act decisively is "diverse, wonderful, eccentric." For multiculturalists, when pressed, the upside nearly always comes down to entertainment. I would not risk our nation's health for festivals I can't relate to and the possibility of terrorism.
That said, culturism is not a system that goes for absolute universals. If we have a decade without terror, I might reconsider. But now, since over 12,000 terror attacks have happened since 9-11 and freedom of speech is under attack, I do not think it worth the fun of having kooky theocratic misogynists here.
PS for the record. Our country was wonderful and kooky and an economic powerhouse the world envied before we increased diversity. Historically we have been concerned about our borders and culture. It is not the case that we've traditionally embraced diversity and been great because of it.
That is one culturists opinion.
www.culturism.us
Philips says "Britain - thank goodness - has a visceral aversion to fascism."
Yes and that's why they're voting for the BNP.
Interesting to see the comments to this article, even her own supporters agree she has scored an own goal
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1152431/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-odious-BNP-gaining-ground-voters-feel-utterly-betrayed.html
By the way, the BNP where the only Britsh party that did not support Hamas in the last conflict.
So I judge BNP on their recent actions, not only comments made 10 years ago
To me action speaks louder than words.
what do you think about this? http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/the-bnp-is-not-a-nazi-party-right-why-does-infidels-bloggers-alliance-so-against-the-bnp/ I am with Avid Editor on this one
Did you see avideditor's response? I am still with avideditor on this one.
Anonymous -- I did. Here is my response to him.
Reread my comments. Wikipedia is not always the most reliable. Think what you will of the BBC (not my favorites either) but when the link is to the Constitution of the BNP itself
(b) The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic
character of the British people and is wholly opposed to any form of racial
integration between British and non-European peoples. It is therefore committed
to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by
legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly white makeup of the
British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948.
Membership of the BNP is strictly defined
within the terms of, and our members also self define themselves within, the legal
ambit of a defined ‘racial group’ this being ‘Indigenous Caucasian’ and defined ‘ethnic
groups’ emanating from that Race as specified in law in the House of Lords
or from their Manifesto
a
system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants and their descendants
who are legally here are afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic
origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals
or Nick Griffin’s own writings
in his own publication, The Rune: ‘I am well aware that orthodox opinion is that 6m Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into soup and lampshades… I have reached the conclusion that the “extermination” tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.’
Now if their own writings don’t convinvce you then there is no convincing you. Thus the numbnuts crack. Their own words and you refuse to see it, would rather excoriate IBA. So be it. It’s not my writing that needs to be defended here, it is the BNP’s itself.
I do apologize for the crack on your grammer. Mine is none to hot sometimes as well.
As for Shiva I don’t recall having any dust up with him myself so I am not sure what you are referring to.
with a further follow up comment to avid editor:
Avid Editor — Congratulations on now being an American. And I mean that sincerely. How long have you lived here?
Where did you emmigrate from?
I ask partly out of true interest and partly to point out that in America it doesn’t matter where you come from you will have the same opportunity as anyone else on our shores.
But if you are from, say, Indonesia or Sudan or Israel or Ethiopia or China in Britain the BNP would say you can’t come in. According to the pieces I pointed out above.
Avid Editor — it’s a discussion that is important and needs to be had for reasons we don’t need to rehash right at the moment (hop over to IBA and see the argument going on there
Asking the question was not where I took umbrage. Condemning IBA (at the time) without hearing our explanations, reasons, and then refusing to link based on that was where I got ticked.
That now seems settled, the hatchet between us buried and I retract the numbnuts comment:)
Arguing and disagreeing is what we do best at IBA. But we do not support racism in any of it’s guises and to me, Pasto & Epa especially, that’s how we see BNP. Can it change, sure, but we don’t really see that happening.
When I posted the Melanie Phillips article I didn’t intend to set off this much fun
Oh, and Pat Buchanan drives me nutz. I can’t stand him.
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