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Monday, August 31, 2009

Reichstag Fire (retrospective)

From LL:

It's just a history lesson.

That's all.

This is a clip (below) from the documentary, "The Rise of Evil" and deals with the Reichstag Fire:


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Anonymous hampshire said...

oh but we are not interested in history...

Monday, August 31, 2009 8:27:00 am  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Chilling, huh?

Monday, August 31, 2009 10:36:00 am  
Blogger LL said...

The problem is that I can see Obama and the czars trying to pull something like this off.

Monday, August 31, 2009 12:38:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, for sure, LL.

The march in DC on 9-12 will be a great opportunity for a big false flag incident. The media have already set up the "meme." Violent people (actually union thugs beating up peaceful protesters, including a black guy), gather to protest "health care" but are actually just white racists hoping to overthrow the "black man" in the WH. See how they come with guns to the rally(they show a black guy with guns, but conveniently don't report or show his race), see how they incite violence against the Democrat headquarters in Colorado(hmm - Democrat-party connected anarchist actually did it but who's counting?), etc.

Yes, there have been enough trial balloons and probing the other side's defenses to show that such a major false flag attack would be highly effective, and probably would "justify" shutting down all opposition.

The media are dying to get rid of us and will gladly continue their lies for the admin. to enable a full takeover of all media, (including the net) and suppress all other opinion.

Monday, August 31, 2009 2:37:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

They might try such a thing, but it ain't gonna work. Not in America.

One thing to remember, is the government is made up of not merely the Executive, Legislative, and Judiciary, but also of institutions which are, in many ways, bigger than the three aforementioned branches; the State Dept., the Pentagon, the FBI, and the CIA.

All four of those institutions wield tremendous power, and have plans which are larger, and work out over longer periods of time than any President is in office.

They have their own agendas.

One could say they are a mediating force between the short-sighted agendas of the Executive and Legislative Branches, and the slow to move Judiciary Branch.

In a way, they are an extra-Constitutional check on our already complex system of checks and balances.

Obama can basically order anything he wants. However, he has to get those institutions to agree with him, before he can execute most large-scale maneuvers, outside of Legislative policy.

Of the four institutions, the State Dept. is the one most pre-disposed to agree with Obama's ideology. The FBI and the CIA are in the middle, and the Pentagon is the institution least pre-disposed to agree with Obama.

Therefore, if Obama were to attempt to use the military for any extra-Constitutional maneuvers, or just merely against the will of the American people, I have a very hard time believing the Pentagon would go along with Obama's request.

Monday, August 31, 2009 4:16:00 pm  
Blogger jdamn said...

Uh, Pasto, the FBI, CIA, and State Dept. all answer directly to the President. The CIA requires too much accountability, which is why he gutting it: so he can be shadier.

The DHS report was a test to see if they could scare us into our hidey-holes. It didn't work. They will try something like this, but it will be much bigger. Then they will use that as a pretext to make the US a police state, which paves the way for taking away our First Amendment rights, which leaves us no recourse other than violence. They will try it. But it won't work. Because we have guns.

Monday, August 31, 2009 5:55:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

jdamn,
The CIA answers to the President?

Oh really, why don't you try telling that to George Bush and Dick Cheney and the New York Times?

Monday, August 31, 2009 7:46:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the institutional CIA's agenda is in line with this particular administration's.

The CIA is an executive branch agency. That is what jdamn was mentioning, in response to your assertion that there was a significant separation of powers / interests to constrain the establishment of our coming police state.

Our guns will mean nothing, I fear, however, jdamn.

Well, not nothing. People may die on their feet rather than wasting away in prison.

But you see how much public push-back our dear leader is getting from the established opposition "political" class. Next to none.

I feel like only Dick Cheney has our backs sometimes.

And he is not in power anymore.

It is almost like they want to stay in the good graces of the powers that be so that they are not lumped in with the "mob" and the "right wing extremists." In case the mobsters and the right wing extremists need to be "hit back" at by the government, I suppose.

Monday, August 31, 2009 8:34:00 pm  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Anonymous,
I understood jdamn's point.

Did you understand my point?

Monday, August 31, 2009 9:04:00 pm  
Blogger jdamn said...

The CIA answers to the President. The President is supposed to answer to us. Obama fails on that count.

Anonymous, I really think that when it comes down to it the military and law enforcement will have our backs. They do what they do for us and for our country, not for some figurehead. The military always hated Obama. The cops hate him too, and that predates the racist gaffe. Obama and Holder are doing to our law enforcement agencies what they're doing to our military: de-fanging them and getting them killed. You could be right in theory, but given the circumstances, I don't think so.

Obama's just another demagogue who thinks we're just another country. Many have made that mistake before. They were all wrong.

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:00:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Jdamn,
Read what I'm saying, and answer my question please. Stop telling me the CIA answers to the President. Stop it. I know the fucking law. Don't give me that answer again.

Now, did the CIA answer to Bush? Or did the CIA answer to the New York Times?

Answer my question, don't try to give me a lesson in something I already know.

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:08:00 am  
Blogger Pastorius said...

Jdamn,

You comment to Anonymous thusly:

"Anonymous, I really think that when it comes down to it the military and law enforcement will have our backs. They do what they do for us and for our country, not for some figurehead. The military always hated Obama. The cops hate him too, and that predates the racist gaffe. "


THAT'S THE POINT OF MY POST.

And, instead of adding to my post, you chose to argue a triviality with me.

What is the point of that?

Jesus Christ.

Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:09:00 am  

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