The Potemkin Pope:
For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.Abbas, Peres, and Francis will be joined by Jewish, Christian and Islamic religious leaders, a statement released by Peres’s spokesperson said, according to the Times of Israel.
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Beyond hope. I hope he does not have the brilliant idea of holding the prayers at St. Peter's.
St. Peter's is considered to be the "Third Temple", so if Islamic prayers are said on its grounds, it will be a double achievement for the savages: the hearts of Christianity and Judaism.
They already held prayers at grounds of Westminster Abbey, now the Pope is inviting them to St. Peter's?
Does the gentleman know what he is doing, or is he "naive" like Obama?
On the Joining of Various Rites with the Celebration of Mass 4. On the Joining of Various Rites with the Celebration of Mass[75.] Redemptionis Sacramentum.
http://www.liturgyoffice.org.uk/Documents/RSsummary.pdf
§ It is an abuse to introduce into Mass elements from other religions that are contrary to the
liturgical books [79]
• see also Place of Celebration [109]
Guess the Pope didn't get the memo . :)
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html
I might be wrong, but I don't think they're doing this with Mass.
Charles -- according to the original article at Times of Israel:
In order to accommodate Jewish religious beliefs, the event will be held in a garden that is not a place of prayer, nor will it hold any religious symbols.
Pasto -- you're correct. No Mass associated with this "interfaith peace prayer event".
Doesn't matter, though. I do not like this idea and I do not like this Pope.
HEY! Let's make this a real show of good "faith" and peace and hold the Prayers of all three at the Dome of the Rock or the Kaaba.
Yeah, in fact, having read about this a little bit more, I'm not TOTALLY offended by this.
Especially given the fact that the Cathechism of the Catholic faith has ALWAYS included Islam as one of the "three Abrahamic faiths".
What the Pope is doing is actually within the Tradition of the Catholic faith, even if this is an innovation.
I still think it's blasphemy, but it's a kind of blasphemy the Catholic faith has always committed to the extent that the Faith has never acknowledged the reality of what Islam is.
One could almost say Benedict was outside the traditional Catholic faith because of his strict criticism of Islam.
It would be interesting to know the historical account of how Islam came to be included as an "Abrahamic faith" by the Catholic Church. I wonder if this was a decision of Dhimmitude during the time of the Islamic takeover of the Iberian Peninsula. Or was it just a peaceful accomodation of Islam later on?
Or what?
I don't know.
I wonder if anyone else here knows.
To be clear, I am very bothered by this, but I have to admit, the Potemkin Pope is not violating the Catholic Faith by doing this. He's pretty much right in the spirit of his namesake.
Damn you're right Midnight, Lets all go To Mecca :)
How much time did he and his advisers take to come up with THIS?
If he wants to do this, he shoul dhave hte head of worldwide Chabad, Chief Rabbi of the IDF, Qaradawi, Mesbah Yazdi, and James Dobson all in the same room.
AND SELL FRICKIN' TICKETS
I'd go to that ...
IN FULL RIOT GEAR!
Sunday, June 8, 2014
Peres, Abbas need to convert for salvation according to Pope John XXIII's Vatican Council II
Israel’s Shimon Peres and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas according to the Catholic Church's Vatican Council II are on the path to Hell since they do not have 'faith and baptism' needed for salvation.According to the Catholic Church (Notification, CDF, Dupuis 2001) their religions are not paths to salvation. There are good and holy things in their religion ( Nostra Aetate ) but the religions are not paths to salvation and they need to convert ( Dominus Iesus 20).
They will both pray today at the Vatican, which affirms outside the Church there is no salvation, in the text of Vatican Council II (AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (846).However publically it is not affirmed.
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
Even Patriarch Bartholomew, the spiritual head of the Orthodox Church, who will be present does not have Catholic faith ( AG 7) and according to the defined dogma Cantate Domino Council of Florence he is oriented to the fires of Hell unless he converts into the Catholic Church before death.
This was the teaching of Pope John Paul II in Ut Unum Sint.He taught that membership in the Church under the pope was necessary for other Christians.This is also the teaching in the Catechism which says God wants all people to be united in the Catholic Church (CCC 845) .In Ecclesia di Eucarestia Pope John Paul II upheld the ecclesiology of outside the Church no salvation.
According to Pope John XXIII's Vatican Council II Jews,Muslims and other non Catholics need 'faith and baptism' for salvation. In Heaven there are only Catholics, who are there without mortal sin, and with faith and baptism. Pope Paul VI who concluded Vatican Council II said in Evangelii Nuntiandi that even though the members of other religions may have their hands raised to God, the Catholic Church is the only path to salvation.
In 2014 we do not know any person saved with ' a ray of the Truth'( NA 2) or 'seeds of the Word'(AG 11) or 'imperfect communion with the Church'(UR 3). They are possibilities but the ordinary means of salvation in 'faith and baptism' in the Catholic Church.
-Lionel Andrades
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1402316.htm
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/francesco-francis-francisco-pizzaballa-34582/
Cardinal Jean-Louis Pierre Tauran must accept Vatican Council II and set an example for the Catholic religious communities and SSPXhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/cardinal-jean-louis-pierre-tauran-must.html#links
CARDINAL KOCH MUST BE ASKED TO ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/cardinal-koch-must-be-asked-to-accept.html
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