Friday, May 11, 2012

5 Myths About Conservative Voters - Results -Luntz


Widely published in WaPo and other places, it’s nice to see this, because it sounds a lot like many of the things I have been banging on for years.
1. Conservatives care most about the size of government.
They may have rallied around President Ronald Reagan’s call for smaller government three decades ago — but it’s not the 1980s anymore. Today, conservatives don’t want a reduced government so much as one that works better and wastes less.In a poll we completed among self-identified conservatives just before the 2010 elections,“efficient” and “effective” government clearly beat “less” and “smaller” government.  They are rallying behind the budget proposed by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) not simply because it cuts the size of government, but because it cultivates accountability.
In fact given the state of the economy, many people I talk with who are conservative firmly believe that govt assistance to many cannot be done without.
2. Conservatives want to deport all illegal immigrants.
Conservatives don’t want to round up all the illegal immigrants and deport them. They believe in the American dreamand understand that immigrants built our country. That’s why conservatives embrace legal immigration. A solid majority believe that there should be an eventual path to earned legal status.
According to our polling in November, seven in 10 conservatives agree with the following statement:“America’s immigration policy should consist of tall fences and wide gates. We need to aggressively prevent illegal immigration, but let those stay that have worked hard and demonstrated a real, measurable commitment to this country through military or public service.”
3. They worship Wall Street.
While the left may perceive and portray the right as a bunch of greedy Gordon Gekkos, the truth is that conservatives are highly critical of Wall Street and wholeheartedly celebrate Main Street. The business leaders that conservatives respect most are entrepreneurs, not chief executives; conservatives value small-business owners above big bankers.
In a poll I conducted early this year, I asked conservatives whom they most trusted to get our country on the right economic track. By nearly two to one, they chose small-business owners over corporate America (only “political leaders” did worse). They believe that our economy will be rebuilt by hard work on Main Street, not by book-cooking on Wall Street.
4. Conservatives want to slash Social Security and Medicare.
This charge is at the heart of the Democrats’ campaign against the GOP. Take Florida, a key swing state full of conservative seniors. According to an AARP poll there last year, 70 percent of them oppose cuts to Medicare. They want the program strengthened, not dismantled. They know Medicare needs reform, but they want changes to be effective and reasonable.
Conservatives believe in such simple principles as personal choice and greater competition, and they are more confident than liberals in people’s ability to make the right decisions. For example, 78 percent agree with the statement: “Increasing patient choice in Medicare will help save Medicare from bankruptcy. When patients can shop for better care . . . it will force insurance companies to compete against each other, which lowers costs and increases care.”
5. Conservatives don’t care about inequality.
Fully 66 percent of conservatives consider the growing gap between the rich and the poor a “problem,” according to a poll I conducted in January, while 21 percent call it a “crisis.”
So, if everyone is concerned about the income gap, what’s the big difference between left and right? It’s the difference between opportunity and outcome. Conservatives want to increase opportunity, giving everyone the freedom and tools to prosper, so that the poor may someday become rich. Liberals want to redistribute income, making the rich — quite simply — less rich.
Conservatives also believe that we need better enforcement of the regulations we already have, not more rules. Like all Americans, they are outraged that there hasn’t been a single prosecution by the Obama administration for the corporate abuses that led to the economic meltdown. As a focus group participant once asked: “If Martha Stewart was convicted, why no one from Goldman Sachs?” Or, as I’d put it, “Why are they working in the White House, not doing time in the big house?”

5 comments:

Pastorius said...

"The growing gap between the rich and the poor" is a myth itself. It is a trope of the left. Anyone who ever discusses that as a problem is a god damned idiot.

Poverty is a problem. Lack of jobs is a problem. Homelessness is a problem.

But, the absurdity of the trope ("growing gap") is made evident by this truth:

1) There are always people people who make $0

2) The standard for being rich used to be "millionaire", now there are lots of billionaires

3) a billion is much greater than a millionaire

In other words, "the growing gap between rich and poor" is a function of inflation, and it will always exist, ALWAYS, unless no one works at all.

Epaminondas said...

I think what is meant by the 'gap' is that, for instance during WW2 the CEO of Kaiser aluminum made, in terms of multiples of a line worker NOTHING like what CEO and Board members make today. I think it used to be 25-40 times. Whereas now it's 500-1000. I THINK. have to recheck those kinds of numbers.
Likewise for the financial industry. The rewards are out of line PROPORTIONATELY compared to previous times.

Think about baseball.
Never mind the 40's, Mickey Mantle was making 60k a year.

If you do a 'normal' job you have not benefited to the same degree.

Pastorius said...

Maybe, but if so, that is a myth too.

The reason baseball players made money back in Mickey Mantle's time was primarily because of putting fans in seats.

Now it is advertising money, merchandising money, from all over the United States, television, radio, internet, and worldwide as well.

They deserve the money they get paid.

People who never compound money by building brands and exploiting markets DESERVE THE HOURLY THEY GET PAID.

Epaminondas said...

Actually Mantle, Berra, Maris and others DID do advertising? Want a Yoo-Hoo?

You make good points, though I would dispute that A-rod actually deserves $25m a year (not including separate advertising deals).

What creates the anger?
Last time I took the boys to Fenway Park (3 guys) total tab (game, parking, crap in the seats) >$500 and that was in the 90's. We never went back. On the other hand, we could all make a weekend of it, go to Montreal (when the Expos were alive) and sit in the row RIGHT ON THE DUGOUT for $26 canadian per seat. We did that as a family SEVERAL TIMES. When I was a kid in the Bronx, I could take the bus for $.35 (and be safe) and get a bleacher seat for ($.75-1.10) or a grandstand for about $5, box about $7.50). Now? Right field, Yankee stadium field level? Upper $100's to 4 figures. Coming down now because of economy.

When entertainment for the people is OBJECTIVELY out of reach, when the cost of cars and homes DRIVES wives to HAVE TO WORK, or cause the family to lead a different and economically reduced lifestyle ... something is out of balance.

But the value of a corp. board member whose function is no different today than it was in 1943?

The head of a loan dept at Goldman, where failure is not possible by law?

The rewards for CDS salespeople who created markets of garbage knowing it was garbage, and sold it based on euchred valuations, and coerced ratings?

The moral value set which cycles through those who get rewards and then CREATE the ethical structure for ever higher rewards for themselves and those that join them ..eventually IS CORRUPTION.

Glenn Hubbard.

This is not the exception. This is the EXAMPLE OF THE CASE.

Epaminondas said...

Here is another all time example...
FREDERICK MISHKIN