All of us, every single man, woman, and child on the face of the Earth were born with the same unalienable rights; to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And, if the governments of the world can't get that through their thick skulls, then, regime change will be necessary.
And we wonder why the Muslims hate Israel? Islam has a bunch of short, fat, smelly, goat-herpes having, uni-brow sporting women-beasts in black bed sheets who don't put out while Israel has this. I would be pissed too.
As a Jew I have never seen something so blasphemous and obscene as to make violence beautiful. This has nothing to do with Judaism and Israel has become a farce. I'm changing my name from Hope to something else and dropping my hebrew name.
And to "Anonymous", who I very much doubt is Hebrew, but if they are: how can a coward dare judge these women who put their lives at risk to protect Israel? Are you in the IDF? No? Then shut up. And drop your Hebrew name, because a coward does not deserve to have one.
"Anonymous, Jew"....we at IBA don't fall for your idiocy.
If you were really an Israeli you would have known quite well,, that the Ministry of Tourism a couple of yrs back started a marketing campaign to attract frankly male visitors to Israel and re-inforce bonds from non-Jews for the Jewish state.
There is nothing gratuitous in these videos.
On the contrary these brave and beautiful women are defending freedom, liberty, honor and decency, virtures alien to the dominant Islamic culture and belief system.....
Don't worry "anonymous" who is probably from the NWFP in Pakiland, you can now go back after "commenting" here (those brave muslims, oops, i did it again, another oxymoron), to downloading his western porn and dreaming of Paradise with Muhammad.
Oh, those lovely, 72 trangendered virgin camels in Hell are so appealing, don't you think????
Jesus, you Jews are obsessed with your own race aren't you?! So have you figured out at what point high self-esteem becomes obnoxious arrogance?? Obviously not.. Much as I agree Islam is fit only for backward cut-throats, at least them Mussies have got a bit of class unlike you decadent, mean corrupt Israelis. Also, your women are looking a bit ordinary after all your centuries of in-breeding. Those Lebanese chicks are the hottest by far of you desert Arab people. And I mean, smoking... man, oh man. Not hot like a good German chick, but real good and feminine, not like these butch, manly army girls. Must be like sex with man, no?! Uuuurgh, horrid.. like, make you do sick stuff or they shoot you. yes!? You jew boys like that??!!
Poor anonymous, not funny boy, like is adolescent and not being clever, Oy oy oy... and I am hearing all time that you is master race and we is born to be yo slave, but you no funny massuh bossuh, gonna tell that purty jew Obama you is NOT da maan
You jews are funny. You think you're 'Western' because you've been living in our midst for a few years. But you aren't are you? You got much more in common with your muslim arab brothers, haven't you...
Yes, we have a great selection of womanflesh in my country. We have exotic Ethiopians, Yemeni, Morroccan, Tunisian, etc. We also have tall blond Russians and sultry Argentinian girls.
Ha,ha,ha... you're a hoot Michael, 'exotic' Ethiopians... brilliant mate. What's a tall blond Russian doing hanging out with you wooly backs?! Short of a few shekels is she? She should go hang out with Persians, now those guys are real cool.
Anonymous at 1:45 PM, The point Michael is making is Israelis are from all over the world. They are from Russia, Poland, Germany, Ethiopia, Morocco, etc. Jewish people are not all the same, and they are not inbred as another anonymous commenter said. They could not be, precisely because they have been scattered all over the world for millienia.
And, Michael is right. We aren't Jewish here, except for Epaminondas. He's the only Jew.
So, where are all you Anonymous commenters coming from? Are you from the WAR comments board or what?
Carlos, I don't think Arabs fault Israelis for their beautiful women (they also have beautiful women - all cultures do).
Rather, Arabs likely fault individuals who have no respect for the muslim faith and have taken over land that they have used for 1300 years+.
I like Israel - they have made wonderful use of the land they have been given and produce many bright and motivated sons and daughters that generate ideas that improve their world.
However, the intolerance and questionable furtherment of claims of lands outside their orginial borders makes the remaining 6B non-Israelis wary of supporting Israel's goals of supporting a homeland.
You may continue the bigotry of castigating muslims, which only leads to a downward cycle that pits 6M Israelis versus 1.1B Muslims.
Or find ways to respect one another and live in harmony (with calmer heads on the muslim side leading as well). Idealistic, yes, but ideals are typically not achieved through violence and hatred.
Anonymous at 5:48 PM, For the record, I absolutely agree with you with regards to the fact that there are beautiful people of all races, and in all the countries of the world.
It is wrong to say that Arab women are ugly and smelly. Many Arab women are beautiful.
I took that comment, from Dillinger, as a joke. I did not take it seriously. If Dillinger really believes what he wrote, then he is seriously deluded.
Israelis I have met and heard talk are arrogant, patronising and condescending and look down on other people and treat them like dirt and slaves. Definitely not trustworthy or decent or honest. Arabs are better human beings by a long way. They think more that we are all equal under God which makes them like other people more than jews do, who think and say they special. I will never support Israeli people in favour of much nicer Arabs, even if Israeli girls show off more body parts and are easy to get in their pants. Just because Arabs are not sleazy thieves and lying conmen, whose women are whores, does not make them bad people...
Okay. First of all, these videos are beautiful. Second, Carlos, once again, you're lucky you got called a Jew. Third, I think most of these anonymous posts are from the same guy pretending to be different people.
It might be the same guy that called you a jew on your youtube video. The content isn't original at all, that's why I say it!
I doubt he's American. I would think he's one of those Arabs that calls himself a Palestinian. One of those people that rioted in 1964 when a British reporter called them "Palestinians" because they preferred calling themselves Arabs or Syrians. They protested at the UN saying that "Palestine" was just a province of Syria.
And then they got a new identity. An Egyptian by the name of Yassir Arafat told them that they alongwith him were Palestinians and so they started demanding a state.
And now...they want their nation back that they have had for 1300+ years. It doesn't matter that the united "Holy Land" has never been an independent state except in the form of either the Kingdom of Israel or the modern State of Israel.
Oh! I thought everyone knew about it. It happened in 1964. I read about it a couple of years ago in a book. I will try to dig up that information and put up a post ;-)
The Brits also offered the jews a huge part of western/northern australia to zionist leaders in 1935 when they saw what was going down in europe, but the offer was declined. 'Israel or nothing' was the reply... Brits are good at giving stuff away that doesn't belong to them. The jews set up jewish state on arab soil in undemocratic, violent manner... what do you expect arabs to do? Not surprising the arabs lost when every Israeli jew is armed to the teeth with american hardware and is full of bloodlust. I wonder how brave and successful they will be against similarly armed arabs? But then, they got you silly white boys fighting Iraq, Afghanistan and next Iran for them haven't they? Israelis helping out much on the frontline there are they? Or is casualty rate a bit high for them?
Hm, it makes me wonder why that information only comes up on the online version of Jerusalem Post and nowhere else in the world including the "BRITISH" history books that you failed to mention the title of.
Kid, get a lesson in history!
The only nation that was considered as a Jewish homeland and that not even seriously and by the Zionist leaders out of all people was UGANDA. That was suggested early 1900s. After that, during second world war and right before it started, the Brits built a CONCENTRATION CAMP in Mauritius, yes, that's what it was and put the Jews who were going to Palestine, there! This happened after the Jews had bought the land in Palestine from Arab farmers who were living luxurious lives in Syria and Egypt and had left the land in Palestine full of marshes!
Brits were against Jewish immigration to Palestine during WW2 so I don't know what you're talking about when you say "Brits are good at giving stuff away that doesn't belong to them." Because 1) Britain never offered Australia, its a lie without any proof and 2) Brits didn't give away the land in Palestine, the Jews actually bought it from the Arabs.
Another thing, what you Muzzies and Muzzie-supporters love to repeat. "Oh the Jews win because of American firearms" again, take a history lesson, KID! America refused to sell weapons to Israel until 1973. There was an arms embargo on Israel by Britain, France, America and Soviet Union during 1948 when they were fighting for survival and all the surrounding Arab countries were attacking Israel. You know where Israelis got their weapons? Checkoslovakia! And yes, they didn't have as many weapons as they needed. They won the war with virtually no tanks or airforce. SO don't tell me that they only win wars because they have American support! You might want to fool people that don't know better!
Avenging Apostate, For the record, the British Balfour Declaration did say that Palestine would be a homeland for the Jews. The UN followed that up by dividing up the land between Jews and Arabs.
Not all the land that the Jews are on is bought, to my knowledge. Some of it was given by the UN.
Perhaps I am wrong. I'm no historian, but that's what I have read.
But, you know what? That was kind of an unfair statement. Because, compared to what other nations have done to Jews, the Brits have done almost nothing.
I'm not aware of any pogroms in British history.
They refused Jewish exiles from Germany during WWII, and they've sided with the Arabs for the most part, but so has the U.S., though the U.S. is, on the whole, more pro-Israel than Britain.
History is being rewritten all the time, boy. It is hard to get reliable data. Most people seem to reinvent the past to support their own present day agenda. The British offer of the Kimberley as a homeland was well documented, but has fallen out of circulation. Believe what you like, but I have seen the account with my own eyes, and it does raise some pretty big questions doesn't it? I will believe you jews are good and brave warriors when your dead lie scattered on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan and you stop hiding behind American, British and UN forces. Those troops are only there to protect Israel.
Not that its overly impressive really, being a warrior. It seems to be more challenging to be a good and valued and appreciated neighbour... particularly for you lot.
Have you ever stopped to consider why jews have encountered hostility from every people they have lived amongst? Is not their present behaviour an indication of their attitude towards others? Your God apparently promised that all other nations would be servants to Israel, didn't he? And you grow up constantly told you are something special and more important than your fellow human beings, and you wallow in a culture of 'victim' that justifies your vicious, domineering, self-serving natures. The rest of the world is not your slave... boy.
Your post has generated more comments than you probably thought it would generate. Anything positive said about Israel is seen as evil by Muslims!
Pastorius,
You're right, in my opinion. The Brits have actually done more either according to or against their will. However, even after all they've done, I can't ignore it how they turned their backs to a promise they made to the Jews. Yes, America did the same and other countries did worse but that doesn't justify what the Brits did.
Anonymous,
You can rant all you want, its not going to change the facts. Just because you don't agree with history doesn't mean a bunch of evil Jews sat down and just changed all of history.
The British offer of the Kimberley as a homeland was well documented, but has fallen out of circulation. Believe what you like, but I have seen the account with my own eyes, and it does raise some pretty big questions doesn't it?
If that was an honest question (which I doubt it was), I'd say NO! It has fallen out of circulation. The history has been changed however just because you have read it with your own eyes, we should believe you? JPOST posted it without any reference so we should just believe that because it makes your statement sound credible? Why don't you present sources instead of calling all of us Jews (which actually makes us happy), whereas I don't think any of us are of Jewish descent or religion here but that doesn't matter.
If you cared enough, I can provide you with real documented history but no you're too busy assuming all of us are Jews and hence we're just lying.
And one more thing, you keep blaming Israel for Afghanistan and Iraq. Do you have any proof ISrael wanted those wars or do you just say that because YOU THINK SO? I'd say, given your track record here, its the latter.
Again I say, you can keep on ranting, you can keep repeating lies but it won't change the facts! Oh by the way, even the JPOST link that you provided didn't say that the Jews rejected that offer but that the Brits thought the Australians won't be happy about "aliens" living in their country! But again, the article is without credible sources!
I find it enjoyable to play devils advocate occassionally. I don't think I've been ranting. I just like to join in contentious discussions occassionally, and present information for consideration. I think its fun to do a bit of jew bashing now and then, like you enjoy mussie bashing. I mean, its not like one side has the moral highground is it? They're all just a bunch of squabbling self-important arabs with big stories who should really stop trying to drag the rest of us into their silly nonsense.
What I say, I say it because I have proof. What you say, you say it because you just want to bash, as you already said. And yes, you have been ranting. Repeating something over and over and going in circles with it is nothing but ranting. As for you claiming that they're all Arabs, well, you do display your ignorance here once again.
Present information for considerations or present lies and see if you can pass them off as truth? You can play the devil's advocate all you want (if that's what you were really doing), however, you are not going to get a free pass here if you're throwing out wrong information and trying to pass it on as real facts.
Your arguments and accusations are based on assumptions that you think and only you think are correct. Learn to mature and learn to accept it when you're wrong!
Gotta love them jews. I hope their lands run deep with the bloood of their enemies and they cleanse the face of this earth of these rabid, godless heathen scum and their filth of a religion. Let them convert or die.
Unfulfilled remained God's promise to Abraham that his descendants would possess the land between the Euphrates and Nile Rivers (Genesis 15:18-21). God specifically listed the inhabitants who would ultimately be dispossessed of their territory: the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites and the Jebusites. Shortly before they entered Canaan, God instructed Israel, through Moses, concerning the conquering of these territories, as related in Deuteronomy 20:16-18:
. . . Of the cities of these peoples which the LORD your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them: the Hittite and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite . . . lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the LORD your God.
Following these instructions, Joshua totally destroyed certain peoples: "Joshua took and struck [the cities] with the edge of the sword. He utterly destroyed them, as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded" (Joshua 11:12). These cities, as enumerated in Joshua chapters 11 and 12, do not include those of at least two peoples listed in Genesis 15:18-21 and Deuteronomy 20:16-18: the Canaanites and the Amorites.
The Canaanites, with whom the Israelites came into contact during the conquest by Joshua and the period of the Judges, were a sophisticated agricultural and urban people. The name Canaan means "Land of Purple" (a purple dye was extracted from a murex shellfish found near the shores of Palestine). The Canaanites, a people who absorbed and assimilated the features of many cultures of the ancient Near East for at least 500 years before the Israelites entered their area of control, were the people who, as far as is known, invented the form of writing that became the alphabet, which, through the Greeks and Romans, was passed on to many cultures influenced by their successors--namely, the nations and peoples of Western civilization.
The Canaanites, with whom the Israelites came into contact during the conquest by Joshua and the period of the Judges, were a sophisticated agricultural and urban people. The name Canaan means "Land of Purple" (a purple dye was extracted fr...om a murex shellfish found near the shores of Palestine). The Canaanites, a people who absorbed and assimilated the features of many cultures of the ancient Near East for at least 500 years before the Israelites entered their area of control, were the people who, as far as is known, invented the form of writing that became the alphabet, which, through the Greeks and Romans, was passed on to many cultures influenced by their successors--namely, the nations and peoples of Western civilization. In the earliest Sumerian sources, beginning about 2400 BC, the land of the Amorites ("the Mar.tu land") is associated with the West, including Syria and Canaan, although their ultimate origin may have been Arabia. They appear as nomadic peo...ple in the Mesopotamian sources, and they are especially connected with the mountainous region of Jebel Bishri in Syria called as the "mountain of the Amorites". The ethnic terms Amurru and Amar were used for them in Assyria and Egypt respectively. From the 21st century BC and likely triggered by the 22nd century BC drought, a large-scale migration of Amorite tribes infiltrated Mesopotamia, precipitating the downfall of the Neo-Sumerian Third Dynasty of Ur, and acquiring a series of powerful kingdoms, culminating in the triumph under Hammurabi of one of them, that of Babylon. Known Amorites (mostly those of Mari) wrote in a dialect of Akkadian found on tablets dating from 1800–1750 BC showing many northwest Semitic forms and constructions. The Amorite language was presumably a northwest Semitic dialect. The main sources for our extremely limited knowledge about the language are proper names, not Akkadian in style, that are preserved in such texts. The rise of the Amorite kingdoms in Mes...opotamia brought about deep and lasting repercussions in its political, social and economic structure. The division into kingdoms replaced the Sumerian city-state. Men, land, and cattle ceased to belong physically to the gods or to the temples and the king. The new monarchs gave, or let out for an indefinite period, numerous parcels of royal or sacerdotal land, freed the inhabitants of several cities from taxes and forced labour, and seem to have encouraged a new society to emerge, a society of big farmers, free citizens, and enterprising merchants which was to last throughout the ages. The priest assumed the service of the gods, and cared for the welfare of his subjects, but the economic life of the country was no longer exclusively (or almost exclusively) in their hands.
So, they seem like a reasonable bunch of people. The Cannanites gave us our alphabet, and the Amorites gave us free citizens and enterprising merchants. But apparently the God of Israel requires their complete destruction. Or should I say, OUR complete destruction???
Anonymous: Where to start? Canaanites = Canaanites Amorites = Amorites Rewriting history isn't enough 4U? Now UR compelled to reinterprete the Bible to suit your bigoted views? As 4 "cowardly Jews"; the leading jet ace in the world is Israeli. In one action he took on 10 Egyptian Migs, downed 2 or 3,& was the last to leave the field. All in Mirage 3s & Israelis Neshers, neither designed 2B dogfighters. Yeah, that's one gutless wonder. & there R several other IAF jet aces. Not to mention several wars in which the IDF was outnumbered 4-5 to 1 across the board. The Greek name for the region, Phoenicia, means 'land of purple'. The etymology of Canaan is uncertain. BTW, Y did U try to pass as a Jew in your 1st post? What's your military background?
Anon. - U've never been to Israel or slept w/a Jewish woman, so where've U met these "arrogant, etc" Israelis & how'd U know any- thing about Jewish sex? Where've U met these mythical Arabs U sing Kumbaya w/?Your profound ignorance of the Bible is odd, even for a nominal Xtian. Israeli Arabs have full citizenship w/access to every-thing Jews do (college, courts, hospitals, the vote, etc) & live all around Israel. So, explain how Israel is apartheid. Clearly, U enjoy Jew bashing because UR a bottom feeding bigot. It amuses me that U liken us to vermin yet imbue us w/such superior intellect & power that we can make the US & UK fight for us. Of course, Y we'd have U fighting non-entities like Iraq & Afghanistan, yet fail to have U take out Israel's only dangerous enemy, Iran, is a question U scrupulously avoid trying to answer. Y is that? Who R U hearing all this master race BS from? It certainly isn't Jews. The Germans U admire have dibs on that one. I agree that Arabs have their share of beautiful women. But, Jewish women run the racial gamet. Its fantastic. Not to bigots like U, but we love it.
Anon - Why does an obvious bigot spend his time perusing Jewish oriented sights & making ant-Semitic comments that not only display his sociopathic hatred, but also his almost embarrassing ignorance, and neurotic jealousy? It seems to me that you're the one with the obsession, dear boy. Anon - It's our country too, little man. We've contributed substantially to every aspect of the development of this nation. We've helped build your industries, develop your sciences & arts, cured your diseases, and spread social awareness (I'm sure you'll never forgive us for that one). And, 10s of 1000s of us have died fighting your wars. It'll take more than a few trailer park skinheads to take away what we've earned and built.
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And we wonder why the Muslims hate Israel? Islam has a bunch of short, fat, smelly, goat-herpes having, uni-brow sporting women-beasts in black bed sheets who don't put out while Israel has this. I would be pissed too.
I HAVE GOT TO MOVE TO ISRAEL.
As a Jew I have never seen something so blasphemous and obscene as to make violence beautiful. This has nothing to do with Judaism and Israel has become a farce.
I'm changing my name from Hope to something else and dropping my hebrew name.
And to "Anonymous", who I very much doubt is Hebrew, but if they are: how can a coward dare judge these women who put their lives at risk to protect Israel? Are you in the IDF? No? Then shut up. And drop your Hebrew name, because a coward does not deserve to have one.
Pastorius, you're aliveeeeeeeeeee
LOL, I thought you might have gotten a invariable knock on the door by some friendly neighboorhood Obamunist via DHS or CAIR.....
"Anonymous, Jew"....we at IBA don't fall for your idiocy.
If you were really an Israeli you would have known quite well,, that the Ministry of Tourism a couple of yrs back started a marketing campaign to attract frankly male visitors to Israel and re-inforce bonds from non-Jews for the Jewish state.
There is nothing gratuitous in these videos.
On the contrary these brave and beautiful women are defending freedom, liberty, honor and decency, virtures alien to the dominant Islamic culture and belief system.....
Eric...right on brother!!!
Don't worry "anonymous" who is probably from the NWFP in Pakiland, you can now go back after "commenting" here (those brave muslims, oops, i did it again, another oxymoron), to downloading his western porn and dreaming of Paradise with Muhammad.
Oh, those lovely, 72 trangendered virgin camels in Hell are so appealing, don't you think????
Jesus, you Jews are obsessed with your own race aren't you?! So have you figured out at what point high self-esteem becomes obnoxious arrogance?? Obviously not.. Much as I agree Islam is fit only for backward cut-throats, at least them Mussies have got a bit of class unlike you decadent, mean corrupt Israelis. Also, your women are looking a bit ordinary after all your centuries of in-breeding. Those Lebanese chicks are the hottest by far of you desert Arab people. And I mean, smoking... man, oh man. Not hot like a good German chick, but real good and feminine, not like these butch, manly army girls. Must be like sex with man, no?! Uuuurgh, horrid.. like, make you do sick stuff or they shoot you. yes!? You jew boys like that??!!
Poor anonymous, not funny boy, like is adolescent and not being clever, Oy oy oy... and I am hearing all time that you is master race and we is born to be yo slave, but you no funny massuh bossuh, gonna tell that purty jew Obama you is NOT da maan
How come all jew girls look the same? Big bent hook nose, oval face and big horse teeth. But good hips and mummy breasts for babies...
You jews are funny. You think you're 'Western' because you've been living in our midst for a few years. But you aren't are you? You got much more in common with your muslim arab brothers, haven't you...
Anonymous...Don Black holding on line 1 for you
Anonymous Dipshit:
These guys are not even Jewish..you don't have to be to appreciate G-d's creation.
Yes, we have a great selection of womanflesh in my country. We have exotic Ethiopians, Yemeni, Morroccan, Tunisian, etc. We also have tall blond Russians and sultry Argentinian girls.
Ha,ha,ha... you're a hoot Michael, 'exotic' Ethiopians... brilliant mate. What's a tall blond Russian doing hanging out with you wooly backs?! Short of a few shekels is she? She should go hang out with Persians, now those guys are real cool.
Anonymous at 1:45 PM,
The point Michael is making is Israelis are from all over the world. They are from Russia, Poland, Germany, Ethiopia, Morocco, etc. Jewish people are not all the same, and they are not inbred as another anonymous commenter said. They could not be, precisely because they have been scattered all over the world for millienia.
And, Michael is right. We aren't Jewish here, except for Epaminondas. He's the only Jew.
So, where are all you Anonymous commenters coming from? Are you from the WAR comments board or what?
Carlos, I don't think Arabs fault Israelis for their beautiful women (they also have beautiful women - all cultures do).
Rather, Arabs likely fault individuals who have no respect for the muslim faith and have taken over land that they have used for 1300 years+.
I like Israel - they have made wonderful use of the land they have been given and produce many bright and motivated sons and daughters that generate ideas that improve their world.
However, the intolerance and questionable furtherment of claims of lands outside their orginial borders makes the remaining 6B non-Israelis wary of supporting Israel's goals of supporting a homeland.
You may continue the bigotry of castigating muslims, which only leads to a downward cycle that pits 6M Israelis versus 1.1B Muslims.
Or find ways to respect one another and live in harmony (with calmer heads on the muslim side leading as well). Idealistic, yes, but ideals are typically not achieved through violence and hatred.
Anonymous at 5:48 PM,
For the record, I absolutely agree with you with regards to the fact that there are beautiful people of all races, and in all the countries of the world.
It is wrong to say that Arab women are ugly and smelly. Many Arab women are beautiful.
I took that comment, from Dillinger, as a joke. I did not take it seriously. If Dillinger really believes what he wrote, then he is seriously deluded.
Israelis I have met and heard talk are arrogant, patronising and condescending and look down on other people and treat them like dirt and slaves. Definitely not trustworthy or decent or honest.
Arabs are better human beings by a long way. They think more that we are all equal under God which makes them like other people more than jews do, who think and say they special.
I will never support Israeli people in favour of much nicer Arabs, even if Israeli girls show off more body parts and are easy to get in their pants.
Just because Arabs are not sleazy thieves and lying conmen, whose women are whores, does not make them bad people...
I would prefer that you people got out of my country. You have your own now. Please.
Okay. First of all, these videos are beautiful. Second, Carlos, once again, you're lucky you got called a Jew. Third, I think most of these anonymous posts are from the same guy pretending to be different people.
It might be the same guy that called you a jew on your youtube video. The content isn't original at all, that's why I say it!
Carlos Echevarria for "Jew" of the Week.
;-)
I doubt he's American. I would think he's one of those Arabs that calls himself a Palestinian. One of those people that rioted in 1964 when a British reporter called them "Palestinians" because they preferred calling themselves Arabs or Syrians. They protested at the UN saying that "Palestine" was just a province of Syria.
And then they got a new identity. An Egyptian by the name of Yassir Arafat told them that they alongwith him were Palestinians and so they started demanding a state.
And now...they want their nation back that they have had for 1300+ years. It doesn't matter that the united "Holy Land" has never been an independent state except in the form of either the Kingdom of Israel or the modern State of Israel.
Avenging Apostate,
You should write a post on that rioting incident. I had never heard about that.
Oh! I thought everyone knew about it. It happened in 1964. I read about it a couple of years ago in a book. I will try to dig up that information and put up a post ;-)
Thanks. That would be great.
The Brits also offered the jews a huge part of western/northern australia to zionist leaders in 1935 when they saw what was going down in europe, but the offer was declined. 'Israel or nothing' was the reply... Brits are good at giving stuff away that doesn't belong to them.
The jews set up jewish state on arab soil in undemocratic, violent manner... what do you expect arabs to do?
Not surprising the arabs lost when every Israeli jew is armed to the teeth with american hardware and is full of bloodlust. I wonder how brave and successful they will be against similarly armed arabs? But then, they got you silly white boys fighting Iraq, Afghanistan and next Iran for them haven't they? Israelis helping out much on the frontline there are they? Or is casualty rate a bit high for them?
You got any links, bro?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233304760328&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
The modern Israeli jewish version... If you want better, truer details, you'll have to look for out of print 1930's/40's British history books.
Hm, it makes me wonder why that information only comes up on the online version of Jerusalem Post and nowhere else in the world including the "BRITISH" history books that you failed to mention the title of.
Kid, get a lesson in history!
The only nation that was considered as a Jewish homeland and that not even seriously and by the Zionist leaders out of all people was UGANDA. That was suggested early 1900s. After that, during second world war and right before it started, the Brits built a CONCENTRATION CAMP in Mauritius, yes, that's what it was and put the Jews who were going to Palestine, there! This happened after the Jews had bought the land in Palestine from Arab farmers who were living luxurious lives in Syria and Egypt and had left the land in Palestine full of marshes!
Brits were against Jewish immigration to Palestine during WW2 so I don't know what you're talking about when you say "Brits are good at giving stuff away that doesn't belong to them." Because 1) Britain never offered Australia, its a lie without any proof and 2) Brits didn't give away the land in Palestine, the Jews actually bought it from the Arabs.
Another thing, what you Muzzies and Muzzie-supporters love to repeat. "Oh the Jews win because of American firearms" again, take a history lesson, KID! America refused to sell weapons to Israel until 1973. There was an arms embargo on Israel by Britain, France, America and Soviet Union during 1948 when they were fighting for survival and all the surrounding Arab countries were attacking Israel. You know where Israelis got their weapons? Checkoslovakia! And yes, they didn't have as many weapons as they needed. They won the war with virtually no tanks or airforce. SO don't tell me that they only win wars because they have American support! You might want to fool people that don't know better!
Avenging Apostate,
For the record, the British Balfour Declaration did say that Palestine would be a homeland for the Jews. The UN followed that up by dividing up the land between Jews and Arabs.
Not all the land that the Jews are on is bought, to my knowledge. Some of it was given by the UN.
Perhaps I am wrong. I'm no historian, but that's what I have read.
Yes, the Balfour Declaration was unique in the annals of British history. Other than that, it's a long trail of unremitting anti-Semitism.
But, you know what? That was kind of an unfair statement. Because, compared to what other nations have done to Jews, the Brits have done almost nothing.
I'm not aware of any pogroms in British history.
They refused Jewish exiles from Germany during WWII, and they've sided with the Arabs for the most part, but so has the U.S., though the U.S. is, on the whole, more pro-Israel than Britain.
History is being rewritten all the time, boy.
It is hard to get reliable data. Most people seem to reinvent the past to support their own present day agenda.
The British offer of the Kimberley as a homeland was well documented, but has fallen out of circulation. Believe what you like, but I have seen the account with my own eyes, and it does raise some pretty big questions doesn't it?
I will believe you jews are good and brave warriors when your dead lie scattered on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan and you stop hiding behind American, British and UN forces. Those troops are only there to protect Israel.
Not that its overly impressive really, being a warrior. It seems to be more challenging to be a good and valued and appreciated neighbour... particularly for you lot.
Have you ever stopped to consider why jews have encountered hostility from every people they have lived amongst? Is not their present behaviour an indication of their attitude towards others? Your God apparently promised that all other nations would be servants to Israel, didn't he? And you grow up constantly told you are something special and more important than your fellow human beings, and you wallow in a culture of 'victim' that justifies your vicious, domineering, self-serving natures.
The rest of the world is not your slave... boy.
Carlos,
Your post has generated more comments than you probably thought it would generate. Anything positive said about Israel is seen as evil by Muslims!
Pastorius,
You're right, in my opinion. The Brits have actually done more either according to or against their will. However, even after all they've done, I can't ignore it how they turned their backs to a promise they made to the Jews. Yes, America did the same and other countries did worse but that doesn't justify what the Brits did.
Anonymous,
You can rant all you want, its not going to change the facts. Just because you don't agree with history doesn't mean a bunch of evil Jews sat down and just changed all of history.
The British offer of the Kimberley as a homeland was well documented, but has fallen out of circulation. Believe what you like, but I have seen the account with my own eyes, and it does raise some pretty big questions doesn't it?
If that was an honest question (which I doubt it was), I'd say NO! It has fallen out of circulation. The history has been changed however just because you have read it with your own eyes, we should believe you? JPOST posted it without any reference so we should just believe that because it makes your statement sound credible? Why don't you present sources instead of calling all of us Jews (which actually makes us happy), whereas I don't think any of us are of Jewish descent or religion here but that doesn't matter.
If you cared enough, I can provide you with real documented history but no you're too busy assuming all of us are Jews and hence we're just lying.
And one more thing, you keep blaming Israel for Afghanistan and Iraq. Do you have any proof ISrael wanted those wars or do you just say that because YOU THINK SO? I'd say, given your track record here, its the latter.
Again I say, you can keep on ranting, you can keep repeating lies but it won't change the facts! Oh by the way, even the JPOST link that you provided didn't say that the Jews rejected that offer but that the Brits thought the Australians won't be happy about "aliens" living in their country! But again, the article is without credible sources!
Oh by the way, you should go watch my video "Proof of Muhammad's Prophethood". The Muslim guy in there argues just like you do.
Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL6FZDGJKLI
I find it enjoyable to play devils advocate occassionally. I don't think I've been ranting. I just like to join in contentious discussions occassionally, and present information for consideration. I think its fun to do a bit of jew bashing now and then, like you enjoy mussie bashing. I mean, its not like one side has the moral highground is it? They're all just a bunch of squabbling self-important arabs with big stories who should really stop trying to drag the rest of us into their silly nonsense.
What I say, I say it because I have proof. What you say, you say it because you just want to bash, as you already said. And yes, you have been ranting. Repeating something over and over and going in circles with it is nothing but ranting. As for you claiming that they're all Arabs, well, you do display your ignorance here once again.
Present information for considerations or present lies and see if you can pass them off as truth? You can play the devil's advocate all you want (if that's what you were really doing), however, you are not going to get a free pass here if you're throwing out wrong information and trying to pass it on as real facts.
Your arguments and accusations are based on assumptions that you think and only you think are correct. Learn to mature and learn to accept it when you're wrong!
Kimberley offer true mate. Saw it in black and white with my own eyes. Get checking the archives.
Gotta go. I'll leave you to your over-simplifications and your partisanship.
Whatever. I am not in a habit of taking people's word anymore!
Anonymous,
Once again, WE ARE NOT JEWS.
THERE IS ONLY ONE JEW WHO POSTS AT THIS SITE AND HE IS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION.
Gotta love them jews. I hope their lands run deep with the bloood of their enemies and they cleanse the face of this earth of these rabid, godless heathen scum and their filth of a religion. Let them convert or die.
Unfulfilled remained God's promise to Abraham that his descendants would possess the land between the Euphrates and Nile Rivers (Genesis 15:18-21). God specifically listed the inhabitants who would ultimately be dispossessed of their territory: the Kenites, the Kenezzites, the Kadmonites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Rephaim, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Girgashites and the Jebusites. Shortly before they entered Canaan, God instructed Israel, through Moses, concerning the conquering of these territories, as related in Deuteronomy 20:16-18:
. . . Of the cities of these peoples which the LORD your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them: the Hittite and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite . . . lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the LORD your God.
Following these instructions, Joshua totally destroyed certain peoples: "Joshua took and struck [the cities] with the edge of the sword. He utterly destroyed them, as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded" (Joshua 11:12). These cities, as enumerated in Joshua chapters 11 and 12, do not include those of at least two peoples listed in Genesis 15:18-21 and Deuteronomy 20:16-18: the Canaanites and the Amorites.
The Canaanites, with whom the Israelites came into contact during the conquest by Joshua and the period of the Judges, were a sophisticated agricultural and urban people. The name Canaan means "Land of Purple" (a purple dye was extracted from a murex shellfish found near the shores of Palestine). The Canaanites, a people who absorbed and assimilated the features of many cultures of the ancient Near East for at least 500 years before the Israelites entered their area of control, were the people who, as far as is known, invented the form of writing that became the alphabet, which, through the Greeks and Romans, was passed on to many cultures influenced by their successors--namely, the nations and peoples of Western civilization.
The Canaanites, with whom the Israelites came into contact during the conquest by Joshua and the period of the Judges, were a sophisticated agricultural and urban people. The name Canaan means "Land of Purple" (a purple dye was extracted fr...om a murex shellfish found near the shores of Palestine). The Canaanites, a people who absorbed and assimilated the features of many cultures of the ancient Near East for at least 500 years before the Israelites entered their area of control, were the people who, as far as is known, invented the form of writing that became the alphabet, which, through the Greeks and Romans, was passed on to many cultures influenced by their successors--namely, the nations and peoples of Western civilization.
In the earliest Sumerian sources, beginning about 2400 BC, the land of the Amorites ("the Mar.tu land") is associated with the West, including Syria and Canaan, although their ultimate origin may have been Arabia. They appear as nomadic peo...ple in the Mesopotamian sources, and they are especially connected with the mountainous region of Jebel Bishri in Syria called as the "mountain of the Amorites". The ethnic terms Amurru and Amar were used for them in Assyria and Egypt respectively.
From the 21st century BC and likely triggered by the 22nd century BC drought, a large-scale migration of Amorite tribes infiltrated Mesopotamia, precipitating the downfall of the Neo-Sumerian Third Dynasty of Ur, and acquiring a series of powerful kingdoms, culminating in the triumph under Hammurabi of one of them, that of Babylon.
Known Amorites (mostly those of Mari) wrote in a dialect of Akkadian found on tablets dating from 1800–1750 BC showing many northwest Semitic forms and constructions. The Amorite language was presumably a northwest Semitic dialect. The main sources for our extremely limited knowledge about the language are proper names, not Akkadian in style, that are preserved in such texts.
The rise of the Amorite kingdoms in Mes...opotamia brought about deep and lasting repercussions in its political, social and economic structure.
The division into kingdoms replaced the Sumerian city-state. Men, land, and cattle ceased to belong physically to the gods or to the temples and the king. The new monarchs gave, or let out for an indefinite period, numerous parcels of royal or sacerdotal land, freed the inhabitants of several cities from taxes and forced labour, and seem to have encouraged a new society to emerge, a society of big farmers, free citizens, and enterprising merchants which was to last throughout the ages.
The priest assumed the service of the gods, and cared for the welfare of his subjects, but the economic life of the country was no longer exclusively (or almost exclusively) in their hands.
So, they seem like a reasonable bunch of people. The Cannanites gave us our alphabet, and the Amorites gave us free citizens and enterprising merchants. But apparently the God of Israel requires their complete destruction. Or should I say, OUR complete destruction???
That's interesting information.
Could you provide links, please?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorite
http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/3360/Promises-Israel.htm
http://history-world.org/canaanite_culture_and_religion.htm
Thank you.
Canaanites=Westerners???
Amorites=Arabs???
Anonymous: Where to start? Canaanites = Canaanites Amorites = Amorites Rewriting history isn't enough 4U? Now UR compelled to reinterprete the Bible to suit your bigoted views? As 4 "cowardly Jews"; the leading jet ace in the world is Israeli. In one action he took on 10 Egyptian Migs, downed 2 or 3,& was the last to leave the field. All in Mirage 3s & Israelis Neshers, neither designed 2B dogfighters. Yeah, that's one gutless wonder. & there R several other IAF jet aces. Not to mention several wars in which the IDF was outnumbered 4-5 to 1 across the board. The Greek name for the region, Phoenicia, means 'land of purple'. The etymology of Canaan is uncertain. BTW, Y did U try to pass as a Jew in your 1st post? What's your military background?
Anon. - U've never been to Israel or slept w/a Jewish woman, so where've U met these "arrogant, etc" Israelis & how'd U know any-
thing about Jewish sex? Where've U met these mythical Arabs U sing Kumbaya w/?Your profound ignorance of the Bible is odd, even for a nominal Xtian. Israeli Arabs have full citizenship w/access to every-thing Jews do (college, courts, hospitals, the vote, etc) & live all around Israel. So, explain how Israel is apartheid. Clearly, U enjoy Jew bashing because UR a bottom feeding bigot. It amuses me that U liken us to vermin yet imbue us w/such superior intellect & power that we can make the US & UK fight for us. Of course, Y we'd have U fighting non-entities like Iraq & Afghanistan, yet fail to have U take out Israel's only dangerous enemy, Iran, is a question U scrupulously avoid trying to answer. Y is that? Who R U hearing all this master race BS from? It certainly isn't Jews. The Germans U admire have dibs on that one. I agree that Arabs have their share of beautiful women. But, Jewish women run the racial gamet. Its fantastic. Not to bigots like U, but we love it.
Anon - Why does an obvious bigot spend his time perusing Jewish oriented sights & making ant-Semitic comments that not only display his sociopathic hatred, but also his almost embarrassing ignorance, and neurotic jealousy? It seems to me that you're the one with the obsession, dear boy.
Anon - It's our country too, little
man. We've contributed substantially to every aspect of the development of this nation. We've helped build your industries,
develop your sciences & arts, cured
your diseases, and spread social awareness (I'm sure you'll never forgive us for that one). And, 10s of 1000s of us have died fighting your wars. It'll take more than a few trailer park skinheads to take away what we've earned and built.
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