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Thursday, March 23, 2017

Fox News: Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says

Last night, Midnight Rider and I were trading texts saying exactly this; that, given what Nunes outlined in his press conference yesterday, it sounded as if he had a smoking gun.

As this article from Fox News says, Nunes outlined everything in vague terms, but the outline he drew was four moves towards a checkmate, from what I could tell:

1) incidental collection of information

2) nothing to do with Russia

3) information specific members of the Administration from the time of the election to the time of Trump taking office

4) unredacted and unmasked in the reports

You put those things together, and you've got a crime, my friends:
Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. 
The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretappedhim in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4. 
The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources. 
The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration. 
The FBI hasn’t been responsive to the House Intelligence Committee’s request for documents, but the National Security Agency is expected to produce documents to the committee by Friday. 
The NSA document production is expected to produce more intelligence than Nunes has so far seen or described – including what one source described as a potential “smoking gun” establishing the spying. 
Some time will be needed to properly assess the materials, with the likely result being that congressional investigators and attorneys won’t have a solid handle on the contents of the documents – and their implications – until next week.
Here's how John Nolte put it at The Daily Wire:
Yes, Trump Is 100% Vindicated On Wiretapping Yeppers, I said 100% vindicated, and those who disagree are either being stubbornly hyper-literal about the word "wiretap," or the placing of a "physical wiretap," or Obama himself placing the wiretap, or standing by the point Ben Shapiro makes that Trump is still wrong because the surveillance was "incidental." 
I'll touch on the "incidental" issue at length in the points below, but to immediately address Ben's argument, even if the collection was incidental, once the unmasking and dissemination of that "incidental" information occurs, that is the Obama administration illegally targeting Trump using surveillance, and that is the exact same thing as outright spying. And being illegally spied on was, of course, Trump's overall claim. 
As far as the THIS WASN'T A WIRETAP nonsense, it reminds me of someone accusing a 70-year-old (Trump's age) of lying when he claims someone stole his record collection after the bad guy is found only with the old man's iPod. You said records! Where's the vinyl! Where's the vinyl! Where's the vinyl!

"The President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life," Representative Maxine Waters told Roland Martin on Monday. "That's going to be very, very powerful," Waters said. "That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it's never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They're going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can't get around it. And he's [President Obama] been very smart. It's very powerful what he's leaving in place."
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Blogger Always On Watch said...

The anti-Trump crowd is now attacking Nunes in various ways -- in other words, delegitimizing him.

I have come to realize that, no matter what the evidence, the anti-Trump folks will continue to refuse to accept him as POTUS.

Why is that?

Trump's defeat of Obama's successor (HRC), Trump was the commission of the unpardonable sin.

Friday, March 24, 2017 1:09:00 am  
Blogger midnight rider said...

Pasto and I also discussed where this might be headed. I said I thought they would try to turn it on Nunes and go after him.

Elijah Cummings was quick to not disappoint:


Friday, March 24, 2017 1:19:00 am  
Anonymous thelastenglishprince said...

Sure. Political enemies of Trump will try to hang Nunes with these disclosures.

The situation is Watergate-on-Steroids.

We the People somewhat snoozed through Fast and Furious, Benghazi, you name it.

Shouldn't we make some demands at this point?

Friday, March 24, 2017 1:26:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT . . .
Mark Dice reveals CNN & MSNBC caught using same "live" guest at exact same time...discusses evidence of media manipulation

Friday, March 24, 2017 1:41:00 pm  

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