From the Daily Mail:
Here's my question; who the hell is this "United Against Fascism" group?More than 30 people were arrested today after disorder broke out during a demonstration billed as a protest against Islamic fundamentalism.
A total of 31 people were detained in Birmingham city centre during the event, which is believed to have been organised on social networking sites.
A West Midlands Police spokesman said the arrests were made at various locations during the protest and a counter-demonstration organised by the Unite Against Fascism group.
A protester lies injured following the demonstration in central Birmingham today
A man with a Union Jack flag is attacked after the protest sparked violence
The spokesman also confirmed that a car had been damaged during what she described as 'sporadic' outbreaks of disorder in the city centre.
Witnesses said scores of officers were involved in policing the rival protests, which had gathered near Birmingham's Bullring shopping complex.
One shopper, who declined to be named, said broken banners were left scattered on the ground outside the Bullring following the disorder.
The clashes saw 31 people arrested
Police had vowed to deal robustly with anyone acting outside the law at the protests.
Police believe the anti-fundamentalist rally was organised by groups calling themselves the English and Welsh Defence League and Casuals United, which is said to have emerged after British soldiers were abused by Islamic radicals at a homecoming parade in Luton.
Men are attacked as the demonstration span out of control
Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1205263/Police-arrest-31-demonstration-Islamic-fundamentalism.html#ixzz0NdiMuQSB
What I see here is a bunch of young men, who appear to be mostly Middle Easter, beating up on a bunch of British people.
Are those people, whom I would presume are Muslims, the United Against Fascism group? Because, if they are, then they have proven that they are United For Fascism, not against fascism.
The article doesn't tell you who was arrested, but the pictures are worth a thousand words.
BBC News Report
BBC states:
"Another counter-protest in the city centre was organised by Unite Against Fascism, West Midlands Police said. "
and
""It started off with a group of white guys who were chanting 'England, England'. I thought they were just football fans, but then a larger group of black and Asian people turned up and it all kicked off.
Youths dragged a Union flag from a man's hands
"You had people burning the Union flag. People were being kicked - some of them weren't anything to do with the protests.
"It all seemed to be very systematic - groups were arriving in cars and getting involved in the violence.
"It really wasn't nice to see and I hope I never see it again."
Asked about the latest demonstrations, Supt Ward said the police wanted to balance the rights of protesters with retailers and shoppers who wanted to use the city centre for their normal business. "
Here's a video report of the incident:
MPACUK thread on subject
Quotes:
siddy 06 "will there be many sisters attending? i know the brothers are planning something, but not sure if i wanna go alone if there's nobody to tag with lol "
SaLaH "personally i think it may turn into a riot of some sort...i have heard a few lads who are thinking of going down, up to no good im staying clear of it all "
siddy 06 "yeah people were saying it might turn into a low level form of bradford riots. the counter demonstrators are turning up earlier than the EDF so might help them for a bit like giving leaflets etc if they are doing that. at least it is instilling some sort of passion in young people to stick up for their religion and identify with it.
depending on their intentions & methods, you could say they are following sunnah to SOME extent - "whosoever of you sees an evil action, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart; and that is the weakest of faith." (Muslim) depends on the context etc, but the EDF have been witnessed saying the most insulting things about Islam, Allah, the Prophet SAW, so i don't think people should be pacified into thinking that they shouldn't bother to oppose them."
Blueprint "looks bad I heard there was brick throwing and all"
Abdullah Ali: "It looks a bit heated in parts, maybe people would have got caught up in the moment..
What was edl like Siddy? "
siddy 06 "i left before it got worse so didn't see them really, i couldn't hear them shouting anything either, and then we have videos of them running away, kinda sums them up "
The MPACUK site goes on to link these YouTube videos:
COUNTER DEMO TO STOP EDL IN BIRMINGHAM
Birmingham city centre 8th august 2009. Casuals United vs Muslims
Reaction to BNP protest. 8th August 2009 Birmingham City Centre
Here's another video on the incident that must be seen:
19 comments:
Daily Mail states 31 arrested . . .Reuters reports 33 arrested
Quote: |"One person needed hospital treatment, a spokesman for the ambulance service said."
Reuters also is not clear on who was arrested.
BBC News Report
BBC states:
"Another counter-protest in the city centre was organised by Unite Against Fascism, West Midlands Police said. "
and
""It started off with a group of white guys who were chanting 'England, England'. I thought they were just football fans, but then a larger group of black and Asian people turned up and it all kicked off.
Youths dragged a Union flag from a man's hands
"You had people burning the Union flag. People were being kicked - some of them weren't anything to do with the protests.
"It all seemed to be very systematic - groups were arriving in cars and getting involved in the violence.
"It really wasn't nice to see and I hope I never see it again."
Asked about the latest demonstrations, Supt Ward said the police wanted to balance the rights of protesters with retailers and shoppers who wanted to use the city centre for their normal business. "
Harry's Place has a post up
What is the UAF? Unite Against Fascism mission statement
Casuals United - Who are we?
Birmingham Mail Video report: Police Prepare for clash protests
Anonymous,
Thanks for the Harry's Place post.
I read it. And, I commented on it in Harry's thread.
I don't understand Harry's perspective. I hope he will answer me.
United Against Fascism sounds like a great group, according to what I read at their web site.
But, the people who are beating the British men up in the streets are fascists themselves, so which is it?
1) United Against Fascists are fascists themselves,
or
2) those hoodlums have nothing to do with United Against Fascists?
Which is it?
Sunday's Birmingham Mail Video Report
Pastorius - From what I read on a variety of blogs, the "Unite against fascists" name is as accurate as Islam means peace.
That's what it looks like to me.
Look, I'm not on the ground in the UK, so what do I know, but Harry's Place seems to be off on this. I don't get it.
What does he expect to happen. You've got a country there were 40% of young Muslims want Sharia law instated in the UK. What does he think? Does he think that means they can be dealt with reasonably? For God's sake.
"United Against Fascism sounds like a great group"
Really? It sounds like an obvious Islamist-apologist front group to me. When fascism comes to Britain, it will surely come in the guise of anti-fascism.
MPACUK thread on subject
Quotes:
siddy 06 "will there be many sisters attending? i know the brothers are planning something, but not sure if i wanna go alone if there's nobody to tag with lol "
SaLaH "personally i think it may turn into a riot of some sort...i have heard a few lads who are thinking of going down, up to no good im staying clear of it all "
siddy 06 "yeah people were saying it might turn into a low level form of bradford riots. the counter demonstrators are turning up earlier than the EDF so might help them for a bit like giving leaflets etc if they are doing that. at least it is instilling some sort of passion in young people to stick up for their religion and identify with it.
depending on their intentions & methods, you could say they are following sunnah to SOME extent - "whosoever of you sees an evil action, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart; and that is the weakest of faith." (Muslim) depends on the context etc, but the EDF have been witnessed saying the most insulting things about Islam, Allah, the Prophet SAW, so i don't think people should be pacified into thinking that they shouldn't bother to oppose them."
Blueprint "looks bad I heard there was brick throwing and all"
Abdullah Ali: "It looks a bit heated in parts, maybe people would have got caught up in the moment..
What was edl like Siddy? "
siddy 06 "i left before it got worse so didn't see them really, i couldn't hear them shouting anything either, and then we have videos of them running away, kinda sums them up "
The MPACUK site goes on to link these YouTube videos:
COUNTER DEMO TO STOP EDL IN BIRMINGHAM
Birmingham city centre 8th august 2009. Casuals United vs Muslims
Reaction to BNP protest. 8th August 2009 Birmingham City Centre
Jeppo,
You sure do love to argue with me.
If you read the rest of my comments in this thread (all of which came before yours), you will see that I don't buy the "anti-fascist" label.
Give me a break, dude.
:)
Nobody is surprised, I think. The lefties are self-delusional as always.
Just trying to keep you on the straight and narrow, Pasto.
;)
Reading a variety of msm reports, it sounds as if hearing the protesters sing "God Save the Queen", chant "England, England" and waving the British standard was enough to disabuse community cohesion in Birmingham.
Yet another islamic web board was well aware of plans for this protest and the discussion reveals the following - Islamicboard.com
The_Prince "i saw one very nice pic of one of the anti-Islamic protester getting a very niceeeeeeeeeeeeeee lesson from the other group. what a nice sight."
&
"these idiots were chanting muslim bombers off our streets, obviously their trying to provoke and showing their against Muslims as a whole, why not say extremists off our streets. and last i checked there are no muslim bombers on the streets of england!"
Mental deficiencies abound in Islam - and here we have a clear diagnosis of amnesia. 7/11?
Continue from blog:
aadil77: "who were the 'black' people that came with the asians, were they muslims?somalis?"
Guestfellow: If they came with the Muslims,it is very likely they would be Somalis. I just saw the video. Salama Yaqoob was protesting. o_o"
Gossamer skye: "wouldn't it have been amusing if a 'Muslim bomber' had shown up and made their wishes come true?
isn't that what people do when they chant? to invoke something to happen?
what a bunch of nits"
Ar-RaYYan: hmm i wonder if br Adam11 and his counter-protest group came? and did some of the things he said they were going to do? Quote:
assalamu alaykom brothers and sisters,
I assume you've heard of this counter-protest:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=9991532179
I have spoken to many Muslim youth. A group of them are planning to come in England shirts and shout ENGLAND ENGLAND back at the fascists, and then do a mass prayer right in front of them. There will most likely be a white British Muslim revert leading them on the megaphone.
that would have been pretty cool
"
Wonder if the police monitored these chat rooms as diligently as they monitored the protesters?
Khalid Mahmood, MP for Perry Barr in Birmingham condemns both sides in clashes - Mid Cheshire Chronicle
Who is behind the UAF (United Against Fascism)? YouTube video . . .
The UAF is funded by the government and unions.
Key supporters can be found here:
http://www.uaf.org.uk/aboutUAF.asp?ch...
UAF mailing list can be found here:
http://wikileaks.org/leak/uk-uaf-emai...
Category: Nonprofits & Activism
One more picture from Reuters
British Police officers speak to an injured man after a right wing demonstration sparked violence in Birmingham, central England August 8, 2009. REUTERS/Darren Staples (BRITAIN CONFLICT IMAGES OF THE DAY)
Perhaps the mental deficiencies are yours? you should read a history book every now and then, maybe learn about the bay of pigs or lavon affair ss liberty.. when recounting 7/7 or 7/11 or 2010 or 555 .. it isn't impossible for a govt. to sabotage its people to foster its agenda you twit!
hope your blog is equally monitored.. but feel free to delete this comment God forbid there should be a voice of dissent of course freedom of speech os only so when it agrees with your degenerate views!
We ought to be monitored because we posted something from the Daily Mail?
What?
And, what does the Bay of Pigs have to do with 7/7?
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