A woman in a Burqa goes up to a Rabbi and starts yelling at him:
"Allah allah allah ulululul".
Rabbi says, "What is it with you people? Is that all you have to say for yourselves?"
So, the woman takes her head covering off, looks fiercely at the Rabbi, and screams,
"I SAID, "HELP!!! I'M BEING ENSLAVED BY MY HUSBAND. I SEEK ASYLUM!""
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unfortunately many of these traditions are continued willingly by the women.
they are not bystanders helpless in islam they too are perpatrators of the worst elements in islam
Woman are the weaker sex, and more susceptible to intimidation though there are some fine exceptions. But Allah (Satan) wants to intimidate and enslave us all. Men and women everywhere must bravely resist.
Rumcrook, you are only part right.
The truth is,
As a Muslim man (particularly as a Shia) you can do whatever the fuck you want to do. If read strictly (notice I put that word "strictly" in as a kind of all-purpose disclaimer in case of invation by our contrarian Damien CQ), yes, if you read STRICTLY, the you will learn that you can rape, pillage, have sex slaves, marry multiple women, beat them when you disagree with them, kill anyone those around you deem to be an infidel, steal from your infidel neighbors, etc.
For women, Islam means being worth half that of a man, and even less, once you are married. For women, Islam means wrapping yourself in a portable concentration camp, and proceeding through life at the behest of your owners/masters. For women, Islam means, your sons are lords over you, and you have no way out.
Two points -
First the burqa is cultural and bigoted in itself.
Second, not "strictly" that is totally incorrect, it is just another interpretation.
If your goint to target something, then you have to know your target - guessing usually means you miss and you get more generalised innocent damage - unless that is your objective.
For a start, the burqa and the niqab are banned in Al-Azhar the most famous Islamic University in Cairo. Secondly, why is it that the burqa is banned in Iran. Have you noticed that women show their faces in Iran? Have you also noticed the burqa is actually not common in the Muslim world except in a few countries only? The hijab, yes, the niqab (face cover) no and the burqa, not many at all.
Womens' rights are also very different and varied depending in what country you are in, why is that?
Spencer started this rather pathetic argument that it is better to support radical Islamists to improve the argument. Thus Spencer will say that any Muslim that does not follow a Salafi, Wahhabist or Taliban style Islam must be a bad or not serious Muslim - which makes the great bulk of Muslims and Muslim countries - including Iran, as not being really Muslim. Sure, get real Spencer.
Are you arguing that women aren't oppressed in the Ummah?
That house of peace as opposed to our Allah forsaken house of war.
I am into reality, in fact I have made my opinions enough times on other threads here and elsewhere.
Women are very much oppressed in the Muslim world, there are three clear factors.
The first is typical economic and social oppression that occurs globally and mostly in the developing world. Mind you on that front, the worst offenders are India, Nepal (the wife-beating capital of the planet) and most of equatorial Africa.
The second is Arab and Turkic cultural sexism. Simply put Arabs are incredibly sexist and abuses such as lack of recognition are enormous.
The third is the radical interpretaion of Islam and in particular by groups like the Salafi, Wahhabist and Taliban movements. They mix cultural and religous texts - especially the taliban and well women are something slightly higher than the value of a camel (so other Muslims say when talking about them).
The point being that it is not Islam but "man" that always abuses women in all parts of the world and it is in my belief (and I am in full agreement with many women's rights organisations in this) that it is huge discredit to the victims of abuse globally to single out just Islam.
The best example is the accussation that honor-killing is Islamic, it is actually not the case. Yes it happens in many Muslim countries but it happens more in others that are part or not Muslim at all. India is the honor-killing capital with most such abuse being equally distributed regardless of religion.
So, to answer your question, technially speaking no.
So you in effect are saying that religion and what religious scripture teaches has very little/negligible effect on human behavior?
No, you are wrong, Damien.
Muslim men are given the order to kill, rape, pillage, steal from Infidels in non-Islamic lands, if they reject the call to Islam.
This order is given in the Koran.
So, strictly speaking, you are wrong. I am right.
What are you drinking, Anonymous?
The first Anonymous (you need a name)... .
Actually your wrong on all accounts and rather hypocritical about it.
If your going to argue that the Koran said it and quote, then I suggest you quote the Old Testiment and thus there is divine instruction to wipe entire communities from the face of the planet.
You are playing the "only the radical interpretation is the right one" argument which simply does not stick. That argument is not only pathetically old-hat and well-worn around the blogs but is truelly "dumb".
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