Frequent Infidel Bloggers Alliance commenter Religion of Pieces wrote a piece called 20 Things You Need To Know About Islam. The points he makes are important, and I know each of them to be factually true to some extent. However, I did not have links to back up each of his points, so I asked him to provide them.
Ordinarily, our posts here include embedded links. However, it would take a massive amount of work to embed all the links Religion of Pieces provided us with. So, this post will look a bit different, a bit more sloppy than our everyday posts.
Think of the links as a series of footnotes to back up each assertion Religion of Pieces makes.
Additionally, let me say that I have not had time to go through everyone of the many links ROP has provided. So, at the outset, I must tell you that the views and opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect those of myself, or Infidel Bloggers Alliance in general.
However, I do think this is a very important post, and I am considering serializing it and laying each individual point into our sidebar as permanent links. For now, check out Religion of Pieces very lengthy post:
Islam ...
1) Is a mind-control and information-control cult founded by a murderer, torturer, brigand, rapist and pedophile called Mohammed.
The mind-control and information-control aspects require that all criticism be silenced.Mind and information control:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/cultorreligion.htm
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-questions.htm
Telegraph article
http://www.hvk.org/articles/1102/154.html
Mohammed's criminality:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/de/knowledgeoftruth/muhammed.html http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/playboy.html
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/libido.html
Mohammed’s pedophilia:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27975
http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/aishahage.htm
Silencing criticism:
http://www.domini.org/openbook/australia200309012.htm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-2058502,00.html http://www.danielpipes.org/article/321
2) Islam is Mohammed's personality cult. Has no foundations other than Mo's murderous rantings (Koran and Hadith).
The Koran consists of two conflicting parts - Meccan and Medinan (peaceful and violent respectively). The Medinan stuff supersedes ('abrogates') the Meccan stuff. Muslims act Medinan, but quote Meccan verses to the gullible infidels.
Mohammed as a cult leader:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50218.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/faq/67.htm
http://www.humanists.net/alisina/cult_or_religion.htm
Meccan and Medinan verses:
http://jimball.com.au/features/Myth-of-moderate-Islam.htm http://www.islamreview.com/articles/madinasuras.shtml
http://www.aijac.org.au/review/2006/31-10/essay31-10.htm
3) Claims to worship the same God as Christians and Jews, but in fact worships Allah - a demonic channelling through Mohammed's psychopathic ego. The Death Cult mixes garbled versions of Christian and Jewish scriptures with pagan practices such as moon and meteorite-worship, and cut-throat blood sacrifice of animals and non-believers.
Allah and God:
http://www.family.org/cforum/fosi/islam/faqs/a0029179.cfm
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/nothingincommon.shtml
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/founders.htm
http://www.blessedcause.org/Quran.htm
Origins of the koran:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001202.php
http://www.ninetyandnine.com/Archives/20020211/review.htm http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter.aspx?g=401&i=41003
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/inventionofislam.shtml
Allah's pagan daughters:
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-allahs-daughters.htm
http://notendur.centrum.is/~snorrigb/fem4.htm
Meteorite worship:
http://www.meteorite.fr/en/basics/history.htm
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Gilchrist/Vol1/7d.html
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-meteorite-worship.htm
http://www.ccs-hk.org/DM/Islam.html
Animal sacrifice to Allah:
http://www.renaissance.com.pk/JanIslamiShari12y5.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/skm60117.htm
Human sacrifice to Allah:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13371
Diodan
http://www.slate.com/id/2103261/
http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/pearl.html
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040624-121737-2912r.htm
http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=1501 ,
Bangladesh Web.com
4) Has no rational, philosophical nor theological basis, and the whole belief-system is contradicted by science, philosophy, commonsense, human decency and internal inconsistency.
Flat earth:
http://trisagionseraph.tripod.com/flatearth.html
http://www.fixedearth.com/koran.html
Contradictions in the koran:
http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/islam.html http://www.geocities.com/lone_wolf_gc/earth_shape.html
http://www.carm.org/islam/Koran_contradictions.htm
http://www.lwbc.co.uk/koran.htm
5) Cannot withstand rational criticism. Can only spread and maintain itself by ignorance, illiteracy, war, terrorism, and intimidation. Islam has bloody borders and cannot co-exist peacefully with other belief systems. Winston Churchill said that Islam in a man is as dangerous as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog.
Irrationalism:
Islamic intellectual achievements:
http://www.masada2000.org/nobel.html
http://www.meforum.org/article/306
Intimidation against criticism and apostasy:
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2218
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/islamapostasy.shtml
Bloody borders: http://chromatism.net/bloodyborders/
Intrinsically violent:
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/al-quaedaterrorismus10012.html
http://www.bibletranslation.ws/islam.html
http://radicalacademy.com/gegeorgeirbe12b.htm
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1172035.html
Islam Review article
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/poorislamists.shtml http://www.angelfire.com/moon/yoelnatan/koranwarpassages.htm http://www.citizensoldier.org/winthewar.html
Churchill:
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/read_churchill_islam.html
6) Has a superstitious dread of images of pigs, crosses, Buddhas, Saint George (and his flag) and of course Motoons.Buddhas, crosses and teddy bears:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/saudi/story/0,11599,1109291,00.html
http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=663,
Pigs:
http://www.derbygripe.co.uk/arbor.htm
Piggy Banks Offend Muslims
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=32749
http://www.masada2000.org/bacon.html
CNN Article
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24691
Toonophobia:
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000783.html
Study of Revenge cartoon
Saint George:
Red Cross
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/011163.php
7) Regards Islamic women as semihuman. Wife-beating, incest and child abuse (including mufa’khathat or 'thighing' - the ritual abuse of infants) are encouraged.
Treatment of women:
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/women.html
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/sexinislam.htm
http://www.nospank.net/demause5.htm
Infant abuse and ‘thighing’:
Truth Seeker article
Ken Lydell article
Homa.org
Hindu Unity
8) Regards all unbelievers (Kaffirs, Kuffar, Kufrs, Kafirs) as ritually unclean subhumans to be killed, subjugated, enslaved, exploited or parasitised. Kafirs are described by the Arabic word 'najis' - literally 'filth'. That's why Muslim hatred of Kafirs is intrinsic to their 'religion'. A Kafir doesn't need to DO anything to offend a Muslim, his very existence is enough of an affront.
Najis kafirs:
http://www.al-islam.org/laws/najisthings.html
Cartoon Nazi article
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006589.php
Treatment of kafirs:
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/kafir.html
Enslavement of kaffirs:
http://answering-islam.org/Silas/slavery.htm
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/7016
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/neitherblacknorafrican.shtml
9) The ethical system applies only to Muslims. Allah encourages rape, pillage, extortion and enslavement of non-Muslims. Morality does not extend beyond the global gang (ummah). Muslim ethics are the ethics of the Mafia.
Loyalty to the Umma first (Ummafia)
Sixth Column article
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/003123.html
Massacre, rape, pillage and enslavement:
Hindu Unity Article
Berean article
10) Allah's followers are motivated by hatred, greed and lust. There is no love, mercy or compassion. Allah is vindictive, unpredictable, capricious and devious - "Allah leads astray whom he pleases".
Hate cult:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27938 http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/2/3626
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003119.php
Women as plunder:
http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/news-jerry-falwell-mohammed.html
Barbarism:
http://www.howardbloom.net/islam.htm
http://www.coranix.com/beastycult.htm
Allah - Father of Lies:
http://www.bethmessiah.com/david.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_deceiver.htm
11) The only religion NOT founded on The Golden Rule. Morality is based on Mohammed's example. If Mohammed did it then it's OK for all Muslims. Hence the encouragement of rape, pillage, subjugation and murder of non-believers and the institutionalised pedophilia prevalent throughout Muslim society (justified by Mohammed's activities with Ayesha, his child sex-slave - see and listen to http://islamcomicbook.com/lyrics1.htm).
Golden Rule:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/005959.php
http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/YaminZakariap8.htm
Mohammed as the example of ‘the perfect man’:
Chronicles Magazine article
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003416.php,
Institutionalised pedophilia:
http://www.cathud.com/LINKS/pages_GL/Islam.htm http://www.nospank.net/glazov.htm
http://www.blessedquietness.com/alhaj/page20.htm
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/002006.php
Jihadic rape:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227317/posts
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=20646
Fjordman article
12) All human relations are defined by Dominance/Subjugation. Muslims have schizoid inferiority/superiority complexes. (A well-balanced Muslim is one with a chip on each shoulder). They respect strength but despise compromise as weakness. Appeasement invites more aggression. The only political system which has been strong enough to subjugate Islam is Stalinism.
Honor/shame, dominance and subjugation:
http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2006/01/warning_shots.html
Dr. Sanity article
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/TOXICVAL.HTM
Inferiority complex:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-2359800,00.html
Appeasement:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13284
13) Polygamy ensures alpha-males get extra women, leading to a shortage of women for the betas. Beta-males must either jerk off (a sin leading to hell), or form dog-packs and rape or capture kafir women as booty in a razzia, or else self-destruct in the presence of infidels then they can screw 72 mythical virgins in Allah's bordello in the sky (see and listen to http://islamcomicbook.com/lyrics3.htm).
Beta-males are often encouraged by their relatives to become suicide bombers because of the belief that such murderous 'martyrs' will be able to intercede with Allah to take 70 of their relatives to paradise with them.Polygamy and Jihad: http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleID.18649/article_detail.asp
Muslim rape:
http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/muslim_rape/index.html
Paradise:
http://muhammadanism.org/Terrorism/Terrorist_Mind.htm
http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/000079.html
Bomber’s relatives go to paradise:
http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=128
Memri.org article
14) Lying and deception of infidels (taqiyya) is encouraged. This may take many forms, including outright lies, feigned moderation, and condemnation of terrorist attacks to the Kaffir while rejoicing with fellow Muslims. Muslims often tend to regard themselves as victims of some group of Kafirs so they can harbor grudges against them and against Kafirs in general.
Individuals may appear law-abiding and reasonable, but they are part of a totalitarian movement, and must be considered potential killers who can flip in an instant (SJS -'Sudden Jihad Syndrome').
Taqiyya:
http://www.freeman.org/m_online/dec97/phares.htm
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/nikah.shtml
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/3518
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=178
http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/koran5.html
http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature%20articles/02-12-2002.asp,
Muslim victimology
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/Islamic_victimization.htm
http://www.iranian.com/Opinion/2002/March/Victim/index.html
Real Clear Politics article
Sudden Jihad Syndrome
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21630
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SJS
Lost Budgie article
http://jihadwatch.org/archives/011114.php
15) Muslims are forbidden to befriend Kaffirs except for purposes of deceit or where conversion may be possible.
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/whoareinfidels.shtml
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/25283
16) The Koran is Allah's final word and cannot be changed or challenged. To do so is punishable by death. Consequently, the Death Cult can never change or be reformed. The instructions to murder and rape infidels are just as valid now as the day they were written.
Since Islam cannot be modernised, the Muslims are attempting to Islamise modernity. This requires spreading Islam in the West and simultaneously preventing any criticism of the cult by intimidation and PC legislation to curtail freedom of expression.
Koran as literal word of Allah: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4048586,00.html
Koranic principles of jihad:
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/Al-Qaeda.html
Intimidation and censorship:
Telegraph article
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17523
http://www.atheists.org/Islam/violenceinbritain.html
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=3674
17) Treaties and agreements with Kaffirs are made to be broken (Hudna). The word of a Muslim to a Kafir counts for nothing in the eyes of Allah. Allah is The Father Of Lies.
Hudna:
http://jihadwatch.org/archives/004085.php
http://www.middleeastinfo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8365
18) The world is divided between Dar-al-Islam and Dar-al-Harb (the domain of war, the Kufr lands). Muslims living in Dar-al-Harb must work to disrupt their host nations until these can be brought into Dar-al-Islam.
Dar al Harb and the Umma:
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/hatredinislam.shtml
http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=2601 http://www.ucg.org/commentary/madridbombings.htm
19) Muslims have no obligation to their host nations and in fact are encouraged to parasitise them. Welfare fraud, identity theft, forgery etc are endemic in Western Muslim populations, and serious crime against Kaffirs is regarded as normal and justified. Extortion rackets against Kafirs are mandated by the Koran ('jizya' is the Arabic term for 'protection money' payable by Jews and Christians to Muslims).
Subversion and disloyalty:
http://answering-islam.org/Terrorism/agenda.html
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC07.php?CID=13
Muslim Leaders And Subversion
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/7681
Muslim Reaction to Suicide Bombings
Parasitism:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004591199,00.html
http://niconoclast.blogspot.com/2006/08/parasitic-islam.html
Free Republic/Pedestrian Infidel Post
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18399
Jizya extortion
http://pweb.netcom.com/~us_copts/protection.html
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/juancole.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/looting51122p3.htm
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008904.php
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/23932
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21082
Ken Lydell article
The Muslim liability and welfare dependence: http://www.islamreview.com/articles/westsunmanageable.shtml
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/011958.php
Amren article
20) The Jihadi attack on the host nation isn't just against its religion and economy, but is aimed at its very cultural identity. Islam is a complete system, including a culture, which Muslims regard as superior (despite all evidence to the contrary) to other cultures.
Muslims are therefore required to destroy the symbols of 'Jahiliya' (sometimes sp. Jahiliyya) - non-Muslim culture. In the East this has included destruction of Hindu temples and Christian churches and replacement with mosques, and destruction of Buddhist artwork and universities and replacement with heaps of rubble. This process of cultural replacement is now beginning in the West..
Destruction of Hindu and Buddhist Culture:
http://hindutva.org/babrimasjid.html
http://www.doncroner.com/India/Nalanda/nalanda.html
http://www.indiastar.com/wallia15.htm
http://65.18.218.137/genocide/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/LJWalker30916.htm
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13340
http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/10235
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/003011.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,214195,00.html
89 comments:
While I do not agree with "anonymous", or any other post here, I feel that "racism" or "racist" is being confused with the term "prejudice". If that is the case, then yes this post of these infamous 20 things are indeed prejudice, and before I am stoned, please refer to the webster online dictionary for the correct definition as it suits this "discussion":
"Main Entry: 1prej·u·dice
Pronunciation: 'pre-j&-d&s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin praejudicium previous judgment, damage, from prae- + judicium judgment -- more at JUDICIAL
1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics"
As far as the comment about the differences among Christian, Judaism, and Islam are concerned, stoning adulteres was a part of the Old Testament, therefore to some degree part of the New Testament, i.e. when Joseph debated wether or Mary about her child Jesus, and the same can be true for the dress which the Islamic religion suggests men and women to wear.
On a lighter note, calling someone a "moron" is not a good way to show your intelligence either.
if you really want to know about what you guys are talking about - Islam. then, checkout my webpage http://linuses.blogspot.com
All I ever needed to know about islam was presented to me on 9/11.
I consider the term "prejudice" apropriate and I wear the badge of prejudice without shame. I will not stand and say nothing while others wave the constitution in my face as if I needed to accept their interpretation as some sort of suicide pact.
As far as the twenty points go . . .it's a marvelous launching point for a YouTube or Google video script. There have been a number of videos posted recently that dissemble islam one peace/piece at a time (pun intended). This 'script' is a good start to another.
No other faith hides behind the racism meme. None need to. Exposing this doctrine for what it is . . .using the believers most holy of texts - just as the jihadists do - brings this discussion to the table in a logical and justifiable manner.
BRING IT ON!
Pastorius, thanks for posting this comment. I like to think of it as my own small contribution to the forthcoming Islam Awareness Week: http://www.iaw.org.uk/
That's a big contribution, ROP. Thanks for writing it.
Linus,
I tried to read your explanation of Islam, but someway through the first paragraph, which is one and a half pages long on my screen, I sort of lost the plot.
I'm a typical Najis Kuffar and only have a very short attention span, so I wonder whether you could please simplify your religion's teachings. The traditional challenge is to expound your religion while standing one one leg . Failing that, could you please summarise Islam in fewer than 200 words.
Examples .....
JUDAISM - Rabbi Hillel:
"That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. That is the whole Torah; the rest is commentary. Go and study it."
BUDDHISM - Lama Tsongkhapa:
"The path to enlightenment is really very simple - all we need to do is stop cherishing ourself and learn to cherish others. All other spiritual realizations will naturally follow from this."
CHRISTIANITY - Jesus :
"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."
ISLAM - ".......................... " please complete
Outstanding reference work on the Evil of the Ages. It's going into the appropriate reference section at my blog, post-haste.
Do you not realize how sterotypical and false these twenty "things" are? Islam has many schools of thought, as do all major religions you mention, i.e. Judaism, Christianity, and Buddhism. To describe Islam as upholding all of these biased and stereotypical views is both ignorant and disgusting. Do some real research rather than believing everything you read on the internet.
Instead of telling us we're wrong, why don't you show us we're wrong, by providing the research yourself. Until you do, you are blowing hot air.
The man who wrote this did a tremendous amount of research. What have you done?
By the way, I know Muslims who have a more peaceful way of interpreting the Koran, but the fact remains that this is the interpretation taught in Saudi Arabia, and most of the mosques in Europe and America are funded by the Saudis. Also this is the interpretation taught at the major universities in the Islamic world.
Regarding the use of the term "prejudice" in reference to the 20 Things...
Why is it that presenting factual information is prejudice, but the Quran calling jews and christians "of pigs and monkeys" is not?
The day that islamic cultists live up to the demands they place on others, and live by that code, is the day I may change my mind about islam.
But...having lived 20 years among the heathen of the Arab Penninsula, I can assure you, that day will never come.
I am filing suit in US Superior Court, charging islamists with Bigotry, Racism and Prejudice within the content of their book of fables, the Quran. It is blatantly anti christian, pointedly racist toward blacks and antisemitic in it's portrayl of Jews. I demand to see the quran treated as any other piece of trash published by anarchists, racists, white supremacists and anti americans.
Try defending this one in court, abdul.
I just dont understand why God made religion in the first place...
sigh.. so much hatred left and right and for what.
a being none of us has even seen.
or maybe he is just an excuse. hating must be more fun than love i guess.
be happy everyone. ciao.
God didnt make religion, it is man made!
The bottom line is fact! There are facts to back these statements and evidence of The TRUE & Eternal God's Existance! Not only Islam borrowed info from the Bible but other religions did as well! So if we all took time to invest in the truth (getting all the litrature ourselves) we would see all the conflicts and fables! Ps the Bible was around long before all the other 'books' so hmmmm history is a major factor!
Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:....
If you wish to be skeptical about Islam, use only credible sources. For example, the family research council and Islamicreview are right wing Xtian orgaizations and are biased and untrustworthy. Islam is only slightly more goofy than Xtianity but should not be used as an objective resource.
Focus on quality not quantity.
please delete my comments.
I would realy prefer not to be seen commenting here after reading your material - kindly delete my comments.
You are appropriately named, my friend.
Totally amazing post, it's in, thanks!
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
rape is part of their culture
you simply must respect it
no matter how sick or vile
..
Ten things people should know about Islam (A Spot Light on Islam)
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1. Allah is God. The great majority of the non-Muslims I meet believe that Allah is a kind of personal name for some kind of small-"g" god, perhaps like Jupiter or Vulcan (gods of the Roman pantheon). I've even heard people refer contemptuously to the God of Islam as a "desert god," as if Judaism and Christianity originated in Yankee Stadium or something. The fact is that Allah is simply a compound word made from the Arabic words al (the) and lah, (god): the God. Monotheism -- the belief in a single, supreme, divine creator -- is the central and most important aspect of Islam. (And it's pronounced uh-LAH, not "Al, uh?") Even most English translations of the Qur'an I've seen do not translate the word. I believe it is really problematic and misleading not to translate such a key word for which there is an exact English equivalent. Along these lines, I've taken several Muslims to task for using the Arabic term for God when they're speaking in English: all it does it serve to confuse those for whom it's never been made clear that Allah is the same God worshipped by Jews and Christians. Muslims may differ on various points with Jews and Christians, but this is not one of them. You'd never know, though, from the way these groups act with each other much of the time, that they each hold dear the same belief in the God of Abraham, Moses, and of Jesus (for Christians and Muslims) and, for Muslims, of Muhammad. (Muslims accept all the prophets prior to Muhammad, including Jesus. More on Jesus shortly.)
Holy Qur'an: Surah:002 , Verse:[163] "And your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God - Allah), La ilaha illa Huwa (there is none who has the right to be worshipped but He), the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful."
2. The biggest sin is Islam is shirk: "associating partners with God." Shirk may be generally defined as polytheism, but also includes such things as the Christian concept of a triune God, or the worshipping of anything other than God, whether it's a human being, any natural/human creation or phenomenon. This tends to create quite a theological abyss between Muslims and polytheists, but also with Christians and certain other religious groups. You can imagine from this that expressions such as "Holy Mother of God!" give most observant Muslims the theological willies.
Holy Qur'an: Surah:004 , Verse:[48] "Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills; and whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin."
Holy Qur'an: Surah:039 , Verse:[67] "They made not a just estimate of Allah such as is due to Him. And on the Day of Resurrection the whole of the earth will be grasped by His Hand and the heavens will be rolled up in His Right Hand. Glorified is He, and High is He above all that they associate as partners with Him!"
Holy Qur'an: Surah:112
[1] Say (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) "He is Allah, (the) One."
[2] "Allah-us-Samad (Allah The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, (He neither eats nor drinks))
[3] "He begets not, nor was He begotten."
[4] "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."
3. Muslims don't believe that Jesus was the son of God. As mentioned in #1, Muslims accept Jesus (in Arabic, "Isa") as a prophet, and an extremely important one at that. Following from #2, however, they do not accept the Christian belief that Jesus was the son of God (literally or metaphorically), although they do believe he is the son of Mary (in Arabic, "Maryam"). They further believe that at the time of the Crucifixion, another man was substituted for Jesus and made to look like him. Jesus was then raised up, "body and soul" by God into heaven. This is probably the most significant point of difference between Christians and Muslims. Some Christian theologians and clergy believe that Christians err by placing too much emphasis on Jesus and elevating him to God's level, but that's an argument for another time and place.
Holy Qur'an: Surah:005 Verses: 72-77
[72] Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allah is the Messiah ('Issa (Jesus)) son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ('Issa (Jesus)) said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers) there are no helpers.
[73] Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no Iilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilah (God -Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.
[74] Will they not turn with repentance to Allah and ask His Forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
[75] The Messiah ('Issa (Jesus)) son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother (Maryam (Mary)) was a Siddiqah (i.e. she believed in the words of Allah and His Books (see Verse 66:12)) they both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allah does not eat). Look how We make the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth).
[76] Say (O Muhammad (peace be upon him) to mankind): "How do you worship besides Allah something which has no power either to harm or to benefit you? But it is Allah Who is the All-Hearer, All-Knower."
[77] Say (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Exceed not the limits in your religion (by believing in something) other than the truth, and do not follow the vain desires of people who went astray in times gone by, and who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the Right Path."
4. Muslims don't worship the Prophet Muhammad. This naturally follows from #2, but, I suspect because of the extreme emphasis on Jesus in much of Christian practice, many assume that Islam parallels this with Muhammad and Muslims. While the Prophet is considered by Muslims to have been the human being with the best character, he is still regarded as a human being, albeit an exceptional one. And while he is regarded as the final prophet of God, he is not the only one. He does not have divine status, although Muslims hold him in the highest regard and are expected and encouraged to try to emulate his habits and characteristics, those being of the highest quality. Muslims were for years incorrectly referred to as Mohammedans (spelled variously). This has generally become archaic, but you still see it now and then. It's actually profoundly offensive, since it implies shirk. (And while we're on it, it's Muslim, not Moslem, and Qur'an or Quran, not Koran.)
Holy Qur'an: Surah:033 Verse:[40] "Muhammad (peace be upon him) is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allah is Ever All-Aware of everything."
Holy Qur'an: Surah:048 Verse:[29] "Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the Messenger of Allah. And those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and falling down prostrate (in prayer), seeking Bounty from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. The mark of them (i.e. of their Faith) is on their faces (foreheads) from the traces of prostration (during prayers). This is their description in the Taurat (Torah). But their description in the Injeel (Gospel) is like a (sown) seed which sends forth its shoot, then makes it strong, and then becomes thick and it stands straight on its stem, delighting the sowers, that He may enrage the disbelievers with them. Allah has promised those among them who believe (i.e. all those who follow Islamic Monotheism, the religion of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) till the Day of Resurrection) and do righteous good deeds, forgiveness and a mighty reward (i.e. Paradise)."
5. Translations of the Qur'an are not the Qur'an. It's well-known that something is always lost in translation. For those English speakers who don't ever expect to read the Bible in Hebrew, Aramaic, and whatever other languages in which its component texts originally appeared, it seems to be accepted that translations of the Bible are all more or less equally valid, although one may have a preferred translation. But only the Qur'an in its original Arabic is considered to be the Qur'an; translations are treated with great respect but are simply not equally valid. Muslims believe that the Qur'an was revealed to Muhammad (who was completely illiterate) by God through the angel Jibril (Gabriel). Muhammad memorized the passages as they were revealed and recited them and shared them with his family and followers. Pre-Islamic Arab culture was predominantly oral, and others ultimately learned and memorized the entire Qur'an; it was not completely written down until after the Prophet's death. There have been many, many translations over the 1400-odd years since it was first written down; plenty of them are bad -- a few of them deliberately so in order to discredit Islam. Many poor translations offer little more than the bias and ignorance of the translator. But it's imperative to remember that any translation is at best an approximation, and it can be very dangerous to make sweeping judgments based on translated verses, especially in isolation.
Holy Qur'an: Surah:004 Verse:[82] "Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein many a contradiction."
Holy Qur'an: Surah:010 Verse:[37] "And this Qur'an is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allah (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it (i.e. the Taurat (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel)) and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws, decreed for mankind) - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinn, and all that exists)."
Holy Qur'an: Surah:015 Verse:[9] "Verily We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'ân) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)."
6. Not all Muslims are Arabs; not all Arabs are Muslims. There seems to be widespread confusion about this. I suppose that, on some level, it's understandable: the Qur'an was revealed to an Arab speaker in Arabia, and two of Islam's holiest sites (the Holy Mosque in Makkah and the Prophet's Mosque in Madinah) are in what is now Saudi Arabia. But Arab people live in many countries, not just Saudi Arabia, and subscribe to many different religions, not just Islam: Christianity, Judaism, and Druze among them. The most populous Muslim country in the world is not even an Arab country: it's Indonesia. Only about twelve percent of the world's Muslims are Arabs. Muslims are nationals of many countries, from India to Sweden to Australia. Anyone who wants to can convert to Islam, and it's actually only a minority of Muslims who are also of Arab heritage. Also, not all Arab customs are Muslim. All Muslims do not speak Arabic, although prayers are to be said in Arabic, and Muslims are encouraged to learn to read Arabic so that they can understand the Qur'an. And while I would really, really like to believe this doesn't even need to be said, recent events have proved me wrong: not everyone with brown skin or wearing a turban is a Muslim or an Arab.
7. Culture is not religion. So much of the oppression and misogyny (female illiteracy, "honor" killing, female genital mutilation, forced marriages, physical abuse, etc.) we hear about in quasi- and pseudo-Islamic countries such as Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Iran stems from patriarchal cultural customs and baggage and not from Islam, although it's always "justified" sixty ways to Sunday with supposed religious dictates and self-serving interpretations of scripture. If any of these countries actually thoroughly implemented Islam as intended and honored the spirit as well as the letter of the "law," women, for example, would not only have far more rights and freedoms than they currently do in any of these countries, but the behavior of men and the actions of governments would have to change so radically that you would probably not recognize these countries at all. Islamic concepts and requirements are that different from how these countries currently operate.
8. Islam is not a monolith. It is a large, widespread, rich, and complex religion, with an extremely intricate and sometimes enigmatic scripture, and an estimated 1.2 billion followers worldwide. There is overwhelming diversity within the Islamic world, beginning with the major Islamic subgroups: Sunni Muslims (accounting for around 85-90% of Muslims), Shi'ite Muslims, Sufis, Ismailis, and other small splinter groups. Within these groups there are schools of legal thought; there are four major ones within Sunni Islam alone. Muslims might be born into the religion or convert to it, and this contributes to the diversity within its adherents. It's absolutely essential not to see any one Muslim, genuine or otherwise, as representative of all Muslims. The very diversity of Muslims worldwide is one reason the annual pilgrimage (hajj) to Makkah, the birthplace of Islam, is so compelling: every year for over fourteen hundred years, millions of Muslims have united for a few days, putting aside all differences of race, ethnic background, class, gender and language, to participate in a ritual established by the Prophet Muhammad.
9. Jihad does not mean "holy war." This has to be one of the most damaging, most persistent myths about Islam. The Western media have helped perpetuate this, but there are plenty of benighted Muslims who insist on misapprehending and incorrectly using this term. Jihad, (which comes from the Arabic root word jahada, meaning "to toil, to exert oneself, to strive for a better way of life") is correctly translated as "struggle" or "endeavour," and can easily apply to such things as a student working to earn a medical degree or a group of people raising money to build a mosque. It can apply to the struggle to control one's temper, or to learn to read and write. Part of my husband's jihad as a Muslim is the effort it takes for him to get up in time to offer the first prayers of the day, which occur before dawn. It encompasses the idea of struggling or fighting for good or against evil, but that does not necessarily mean with violence, and it certainly does not mean that any crackpot claiming to be Muslim and waving a Qur'an around can decide who is good and who is evil, and start killing people. There are certain extreme circumstances under which the notion of jihad might encompass aggression or armed conflict, but these are only to be engaged in as a last resort, when all legal, political, economic, social, and diplomatic attempts to defend Muslims and their right to worship, or to combat other severe oppression (and not only against Muslims), have failed. Any kind of military action is, at best, a subset of the concept of jihad. In fact, there is a well-known Islamic saying indicating that any kind of military conflict is the "minor jihad"; the "major jihad" is the struggle to control and improve oneself. Some of the passages in the Qur'an describing battle and aggression (the passages militants often quote out of context to support their agendas) are narrating actual historical events, not advising them as a course of action or a religious duty. They are also offset by many other passages enjoining peace, mercy, goodness, tolerance, patience, forgiveness, compassion, restrictions in warfare, etc. It seems the bin Ladens and "Muslim" militants of the world just haven't gotten to those parts of the Qur'an yet.
Holy Qur'an: Surah:016 , Verse:[125-128]
[125] Invite (mankind, O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islam) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Revelation and the Qur'an) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.
[126] And if you punish (your enemy, O you believers in the Oneness of Allah), then punish them with the like of that with which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for As-Sabirun (the patient).
[127] And endure you patiently (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) your patience is not but from Allah. And grieve not over them (polytheists and pagans), and be not distressed because of what they plot.
[128] Truly, Allah is with those who fear Him (keep their duty unto Him), and those who are Muhsinun (good-doers).
Holy Qur'an: Surah:003 , Verse:[159] “And by the Mercy of Allah, you dealt with them gently. And (O Muhammad (peace be upon Him)) had you been severe and harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about you;
Holy Qur'an: Surah:001 , Verse:[256] “There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.”
Holy Qur'an: Surah:109 Verse:[6] "To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."
Holy Qur'an: Surah:060 Verse:[1] "O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come to you of the truth (i.e. Islamic Monotheism, this Qur'an, and Muhammad (peace be upon him)) and have driven out the Messenger (Muhammad (peace be upon him)) and yourselves (from your homeland) because you believe in Allah your Lord! If you have come forth to strive in My Cause and to seek My Good Pleasure (this is Jihad for Allah), (then take not these disbelievers and polytheists as your friends). You show friendship to them in secret, while I am All-Aware of what you conceal and what you reveal. And whosoever of you (Muslims) does that, then indeed he has gone (far) astray from the Straight Path."
10. Islam does not promote, sponsor, condone or encourage terrorism or murder. The smear campaign against Islam (during the twentieth century in particular) has been extremely thorough and successful.
Gee Anonymous, now that you have shared that with me, I agree with you ...
not.
Muslim Imams to promote, sponsor, condone, and encourage terrorism all over the world. Stop lying to yourself. You know it is true. Perhaps, though, you think it is defensive to strap on a bomb belt and blow up a line full of men waiting to become policmen. Is that it?
Robert Spencer (www.jihadwatch.org) makes the point that Muhammad was not a paedophile in the modern sense, as in his times, an old man marrying a pre-pubescent girl was not that unusual. None of his contemporaries thought it remarkable.
The problem is that Muslims put forward Muhammad as "the perfect man and an example to be followed". That being their position, they cannot fall back on cultural arguments to mitigate what appears to us to be depraved behaviour. The are logically forced to either admit that Muhammad wasn't perfect or else that our society is wrong in sanctioning paedophilia.
From the look of that Channel 4 Dispatches documentary, they seem to be going with the later argument.
This is an Islamic guide is for non-Muslims who would like to understand Islam, Muslims, and the Holy Quran. It is rich in information, references, bibliography, and illustrations. It has been reviewed and edited by many professors and well-educated people. It is brief and simple to read, yet contains much scientific knowledge. It contains the whole book, A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam, and more.
http://www.islam-guide.com
http://www.islamway.com/mohammad/
This article is biased and lacks credibility !
Read about Islam from reliable sources!
If you have an argument, you ought to try articulating it.
All major religions except islam: treat your neighbor well, at your own expense.
Islam: Seek revenge on your neighbor and injure him in the manner he has injured you.
Everyone knows in their heart which of these is correct. There may be a lot of junk covering that up, but it's there.
An interesting and hard hitting article which presents the truth as it is.
I do not know the author's religious inclinations, but what I know for sure is that Islam and Christianity are the most intolerant and goddamned religions in this world and they have caused the most harm to other religions, which except for one have been Non-Abrahamic.
As a Muslim, a US Marine, and a black guy from New Jersey, I must say, that this post is funny! People who believe these "20" things are hilarious, you can't be serious.
none of these things are true if u bothered to search it on a RELIABLE source, you would find that many of the so-called quranic verses are MADE UP
wow,as i was reading this TEARS were running down my face, as i cant believe what kind of PIG would write this. You need to get yourself EDUCATED. Islam is the best & cleanest religion. If u were atleast a little bit educated u would know that ISLAM is NOT at all about killing or Rape or murdering,its rather to praise our ONE & beautiful Allah to respect him & to live for him. You are a horrible person & a racist. I hope u get some kind of education. ALWAYS REMEMBER ALLAH IS ONE!!!!
let me tell u something u little bitches christianity is the DIRTIEST & NASTIEST religion on earth u sure dont see a muslim going around doing drugs & getting drunk or having babies when they're like 15, u dont see muslims SHOOTING at schools? or shooting at stores,or killing/raping anybody,u dont see muslims raping they're on daughters or granddaughters. Now thats REALITY not some stupid shit. All of u that agree to this stupid shit need to get ur damn shit straight & look at the real thing. Muslims might have caused some things, but u know they are the cleanest and the best people on earth. Christians are nasty & they selfish & dont care about NOTHING. they would rather give money for DRUGS then for bread. Islam is a Beautiful religion, christianity has no history everybody has something different to say about it & nobodii even cares about it. Islam is a strong religion & it will be forever, but i dont have to sit here & type this to u ONE DAY YOU WILL SEE. JUST WAIT. WHEN THE DAY COMES.
Great collection of sites exposing islam as a violent cult.
well researched. Muslims are the new NAZIS.
www.finalcrusade.com
Great post - even for the comments alone. It was referred to me and I'm linking this post to my blog right now. I'm especially fond of the "u bitches christianity" in terms of reflecting the peacefulness and love eminating from Islam - maybe to the Muslim men but certainly not to non-Muslims and maybe if protected, Muslim women and children may have a different view.
Thank you for the links.
Here's an interesting article from an ex-Muslim on why Muslims hate us and always will hate us no matter what we do, and what we need to do to save ourselves from their raging aggression..
"The Qur’an teaches Muslims not to be friendly with the non-Muslims or to trust them (1). It also advocates that the non-Muslims are the associates of Satan (2) and warns of severe punishment to those Muslims who try to be in affable terms with the non-Muslims(3). A Muslim convert must not be in congenial terms even with his non-Muslim parents (4) and he is free to murder his parents and kindred (5) if they criticise the convert’s new faith. The Qur’an says that the non-Muslims are open enemies of Islam (6). Muslims are commanded to be harsh and ruthless with them (7), to terrorise them (8), to humiliate them (9), to make war on them(10) and to murder them wherever they are found (11).
A true Muslim must follow the Qur’an in complete. Therefore, it is obligatory for him/her to dislike and distrust the non-Muslims. It is the Qur’an which is responsible for such unbound hatred.
Why they think of us as enemy when we have no feeling of enmity towards them?
Please refer to the previous answer. Even when the unbelievers harbour no enmity or dislike towards the Muslims, they (the Muslims) must not take the unbelievers as friends and allies. The infidels’ unbelief (that is, their refusal to convert to Islam) is the main reason why Muslims must hate them. Refusal to convert to Islam in itself is considered as an act of hostility and oppression. That is why non-Muslims are open enemies of Islam—nothing, not even their good intentions, could render them friendly towards the Muslims. ! "
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"No doubt, it is necessary to fight this war militarily but it should also be fought doctrinally. So far, nothing has been done to extinguish Islam ideologically. The world must launch this war immediately The PC politicians, so far, have lied to their people by saying that Islam means peace. Let the entire world rise up against Islam. This will force the so-called vast majority of the not-so-good Muslims to discard Islam—at least the violent part of it. They would remain contented with the ritual part of Islam, like prayer, fasting etc. These rituals do not harm others. When this happens the Jihadists will find it extremely difficult to recruit new suicide bombers and Islamic killers. That is how Islam should be fought. The first step for the world leaders will be to speak the truth and speak it forcefully. They must set aside all their differences for the sake of saving the humanity from the looming catastrophe, that is, a victory of Islam by exploding atom bombs on infidel lands. Only an imbecile dunce will doubt this capability of the Islamists. When the entire infidel world unites solidly to combat Islam you will see how fast Islam recedes to its cave. For this to occur, the world must be prepared to face another oil shock. But this had to be endured if we want a world free of Islamic terrorism."
Read it all at http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=647&Itemid=63
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i will be more than happy to answer any questions u have honestly, you are obviuosly confused.
Just curious if some of the "Anonymous" posts defending Islam as a peaceful religion with threats and name calling reminds anyone of hooded be-headers to anyone else? Thats pretyy anonymous also.
ok so i read that the Quran was being questioned about its credibility because it quotes "MAN CREATED FROM A DROP EMITTED FROM BETWEEN THE BACKBONE AND THE RIBS". If you itiots did some research or knew anything about embryology you would know:
In embryonic stages, the reproductive organs of the male and female, i.e. the testicles and the ovaries, begin their development near the kidney between the spinal column and the eleventh and twelfth ribs. Later they descend; the female gonads(ovaries) stop in the pelvis while the male gonads(testicles) continue their descent before birth to reach the scrotum through the inguinal canal. Even in the adult after the descent of the reproductive organ, these organs receive their nerve supply and blood supply from the Abdominal Aorta, which is in the area between the back bone(spinal column) and the ribs. Even the lymphatic drainage and the venous return goes to the same area.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/embryology.htm
i wish i had the time to go through all of these bullshit sources of yours, do some real research please and find some credible sources not something from another fellow bigot like yourself, its like one itiot is asking another itiot is this true, the other itiot says yes, oh it must be true now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v1TT_ExR2k&feature=related
^^ the Quran vs Bible in Scientific Accuracy Many Parts
post here anything you want to know about islam or anything you have against it, and give some reliable source if your going to
who ever rote this shit nd found all of this crap is a fuked up bitch it self k
nd if that person is not dead by now watch him dye in a few days u mother fuken ass crak providen shit u dont even no if its true or not but waistin time on crack heads like yalls is notum but shit
but b4 u say shit to muslims first confirm who da fuck u r k
a christian or a sum other fuken religion outta now where
fuk all yas
bittchasses
wtf yo get yur facts stright you hav no fukin idea.. wtf yu talkn about... huevr rote disz shxt fukin burn in hell.. ya dunno shxt about ISLAM yu dont evn wanna gett me started with yall fake ass religins .. gott no freekin proof 4 disz garbage
if yu dunno shxt which is very clear find sum ohtr shxt to do
muslims are the most modest ppl nd jus because saddam hussein nd all them asses call thumselves muslims dun mean that all "muslims" r that wayy..
get a life nd gett yur facts striaght
fukin makin up shxt .. got no sources...
GET A LYFE ND BURN IN HELL
stop makin up disz crapp cuz guess wht Islam is still tha fastest growing religion in da world yo wht yu gonna say bout tht? HUH? ppl dont convert cuz of crap like disz shxt
Sigh.
Point #21 is being made by all these "Anonymous" commenters.
hello we r anonymous cuz we don wnt neone to know who the hell we r ... that wht it means..y do yu care is it bothering yu tht yu dunno who we r
It doesn't bother me. I just think it is funny.
Did you learn to type on your phone?
what the hell is this cant we believe what we want to? well wat r u now an athiest ur being racist jews believe wat they wanna believe and so do christians y cant muslims ur just liening AGAIN i hate u ur a loser and ur being ignorent and being a bitch....im not a victem and im not a bully just wann a no wat the fuck is ur problem????? u sidtrack hanging our parents heads in and shock! =(
im a true muslim and u cant find proof a lot o of the holy books have changed through time such as the bible and everyone has their own opinion and also the quran is the only holy book that hasn't cnaged and there is barely any proof so shut the fuck up losers o so wat r u gonna say o using that language makes u sound dumb well i cant control ma anger so dont hate appreciate
Confuzzled LOL,
Peace to you too.
Let's be clear. Islam is not a race. So, it is not racist to criticize a religion, even if you are wrong in your criticism.
Islam, as a religion, is a center of power in society. Therefore, it ought to be criticized, just like every other center of power should be criticized (business, government, academia, the media).
Have a great day,
Pastorius
heyy pastoruis w.e ur name izz R U STILL ALIVEE nd if u R probli ur HEALThs FuKEdd up
LMFAOOO =)
Anonymous,
Should I take that as a vote from you for
1) putting adulterers, homosexuals, and apostates to death
2) a basic division in the world Dar al-Islam vs. Dar al-Harb
3) Kuffar are dirty
4) Jews are monkeys and pigs
etc.
?
Is that how we should take your weird post?
The Universal Appeal of Islam
By the soul, and the proportions and orders given to it. And its enlightenment as to its wrong and its right.' [91:7-8]
Islam is the religion of fitrah, i.e. human nature, and morality according to the Quran is something INHERENT in the nature of man. So true is this fact that the Holy Book draws attention to it in order to convince humanity of the truth of the Day of Judgement. If the Quran did not believe that all men possess a realization of 'good' and 'evil', why would it consider using it as an example to draw attention to the accountability in the next life?
The misunderstanding by many that Islam defines morality reveals a fundamental flaw in thinking and correction regarding the role of revelation is necessary because it affects the way Muslims present their religion. Instead of appealing to human nature in presenting their religion, Muslims have presented Islam in so many different ways, including a political and economic ideology, totally divorcing Islam from its universal appeal and in fact, the manner in which is was presented by the Prophets (AS). They present Islam as acting from 'without', and not from within the depths of his soul. The point of revelation is not to enforce a 'system', but to complement the human personality. Revelation was sent to remind men of their ultimate destiny and to regulate all those components (i.e. emotions, passions, hedonism and reason according to Moiz Amjad), that make up a human being so that he can achieve harmony in life. Without revelation, men tend to fall into extreme, whether it is through his own reason or heart. History is a testimony to this. Those that tended to have extremely sensitive 'religious' feelings often fell into ascetism viewing the world as evil. While the good people went to monasteries and churches, the world was left to those interested only in pursuing their selfish ends at the expense of the weaker class. This attitude towards piety clouded their view regarding 'war' as a means to achieve a just social order. It is absolutely no coincidence that the remarks of the Quran regarding monasticism and monkery are made in the context of 'jihad'. Thus, revelation balanced their perspective on attaining piety and goodness. As opposed to those who left the world, there were those whose worldliness tended to make them oblivious to the plight of others. They failed to see that although most wealth is earned was the result of their own hands, much of what they earned could be rightfully attributed to forces that were not the result of their own effort. Those that weren't as selfish realized this and acknowledged that there must be some way in which they could express their gratitude. But they were in a state of confusion, what the Quran calls 'dalalah', on what should they spend, how much should they spend and so forth. They could not figure it out through their own mind and faculties, so God in His Infinite Mercy sent revelation to complement this natural urge and provide them with the most balanced way to spend. Even the divisions of zakat took into account the labor of the individual, with fields that were primarily watered by purely natural forces being subjected to more tax than fields that involved more labor-intensive work.
Without this recognition of human nature, this attitude of presenting Islam from a manner of 'without' has has gone to such extremes that piety is often presented by certain circles as an adoption of certain norms and practices that are part of a specific culture. Revelation as we see, deals with those UNIVERSAL values that are part and parcel of human nature. They give us practical rules that allow for the proper expression of these human values, without which life becomes a dis-integrated mess. Men emphasize one aspect of their personality without given due prominence to another. One of the greatest examples of Muhammad (S) is his balanced and purely integrated personality. Before Islam, we find that he (S) was actually quite 'introverted' seeking recourse to the caves outside Mecca to think about life and its mysteries. But as soon as revelation descended upon him, shattering his very being, it resulted in all the depth and dimension of his personality to shine through. His simplicity was complemented by a profound sense of self-respect. His quiet nature was complemented by his strength when he saw the hudood of Allah, Glorious is He, being violated. A personality so vast and powerful that it totally changed the course of world history, inlfuencing not only the desert Arabs, but Europe as well. It is not coincidence, besides being paradoxical, that the proclamation "Read" to the UNLETTERED Prophet gave birth to the 'empirical sciences' that has so heavily influenced the modern world.
To present Islam in contradiction to the fitra of man goes directly against the universal teachings of the Quran and the Prophet (S). When the Quran says to enjoin the MA'RUF and forbid the MUNKAR, these terms do not signify acts of shareeah but universally recognized principles of good and evil. We find in the Quran commands to pay the mehr in accordance with the MARUF, which in Arabic refer to the NOBLE TRADITIONS OF A SOCIETY. If a rich man pays a mehr to his wife not in accordance to what is seen as noble in his society, he is not fulfilling the spirit of the Quran. The Quran tells the man that if he desires to marry a widow, whose husband had just died, he may indicate his desire to marry her only by taking into account the MARUF, which also includes the sensitives of a people of a particular culture. The shareeah never defines this MAR'UF because the traditions and cultures of men are so diverse, but here we find the Quran's love of all those GOOD traditions that originate out of the good nature of man. We find the Prophet (S) and His Companions (R) praising the MARUF even before Islam. In fact, Muhammad (S) had marvelled upon hearing a verse of pre-Islamic hanif poet, who died right before the coming of Islam, and proclaimed to the effect, "By God, this man came to the door of Islam."
Diversity is one of the signs and marvels of God, indicating His Wisdom, Mercy, and Providence according to the Divine text. In fact, to go against it would be declaring war on nature. The Prophet (S) said to the effect that if somebody came and told you a mountain moved, you can believe it, but if somebody came and told you a man changed his nature, i.e. his fitra, never believe it. Men cannot win a war against their own self, and their is no way possible the Creator of man could reveal a Book that contradicts his nature. "Does God not know what He created? He is the Subtle, the Aware."
This is precisely why God Almighty says, "We never sent a Messenger, except from his own people." Because of the nature of the role of a Messenger in making the truth clear to the people he presents it to, God, the All-Knowing sent one who could relate to the experiences of them. Further, the Quran itself speaks in such a way that it appeals to the various levels of intellect that make up these people. The Holy Book says to the effect that "We have explained the Quran in various ways so that men may take heed." It possesses the simplicity to charm the villager, and at the same time, its words possess such depth that a scientist who has studied all the various disciplines that humanity has discovered throughout time can find in it knowledge to quench his thirst. It possesses such musical charm that the poet Labid, whose verse use to hang on the Ka'aba, renounced his poetry saying to the effect that he forgot all his poetry once he learned the Quran. The Quran appeals to the diverse taste of men, both aesthetic and rational, or 'mind and heart'.
Comparison Study of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam
Religion
Abrahamic Faith consists of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. These religions have something in common such as the belief of Adam is the first man created and the
ancestor of all human beings, Abraham as a prophet, and the Torat as a revelation of God. Nevertheless there are also some significance differences among them.
Judaism is a tribal religion that can only confessed by a Jew tribe. This religion could not be spread to Non Jew. That is why the number of its follower is only a few. Around 14 million people in the world. Meanwhile the Christianity and Islam are spreading to
all people in the world and confessed by billions of people.
About God
Judaism and Islam regard there is only one God. The Jews call the God as Yahweh which is third singular person means “He who is.” Muslims call God as Allah
which is singular form and genderless from ilah (God). In the Quran, chapter Al Ikhlas stated the unity of God:
Say: He is Allah, the One!
Allah, the eternally Besought of all!
He begetteth not nor was begotten.
And there is none comparable unto Him.
Actually in the Bible the Unity of God also stated in the Ten Commandments of God in Exodus 20:20:1 And God spake all these words, saying, 2 I am the
LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. [Exodus 20:1-3]
Though in Judaism and Islam the Monotheism of God is absolute including of God’s essence, in Christianity there is a doctrine named Trinity that says God exists
as 3 persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who are united in one substance or being. The trinity consists of 2 words: Three and Unity. Three is One and One is
three.
This concept is contradicted to Al Quran in Chapter Al Ikhlas that says God has no Father or Son. The Bible says:
“The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.”[2 Corinthian 11:31]
“Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort” [2 Corinthian 1:3]
The Bible verses above clearly said that God is the Father of Lord Jesus Christ. On the other hand, in Islam strictly stated the Oneness of God, that God is one, God has no Father or Son as follows:
“And say: Praise be to Allah, Who hath not taken unto Himself a son, and Who hath no partner in the Sovereignty,nor hath He any protecting friend through
dependence. And magnify Him with all magnificence.” [Al Israa’:111]
Allah has no Son or Partner:
“Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any God along with Him; else would each God have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them
would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege.” [Al Mu’minuun:91]
About Jesus
The Jews not only deny Jesus as a God or a prophet, but they also tried to kill Jesus as a pervert.
On the contrary, the Christians regard Jesus as a God:
“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.” [2 Corinthian 13:14]
Islam regards Jesus not as a God, but only a human being that became a messenger of God:
“And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say my mother for two gods beside Allah? He saith: Be glorified to which I had no right. If I used
to say it, then Thou my mind, and I know not what is in Thy mind. Lo! Thou, only Things Hidden.” [Al Maa’idah:116]
According to Islam, Jesus only a prophet to call people to worship only one God as God order in the Ten Commandments:
“I spake unto them only that which Thou commandedst me, and your Lord. I was a witness of them while I dwelt tookest me Thou wast the Watcher over them. Thou
art” [Al Maa’idah:117]
About Jesus Parent
As the Bible verses above, the Christianity regards Jesus as the Son of God:
“The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God” [Mark 1:1]
“He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David” [Luke 1:32]
Nonetheless, on Matthew 1:16-18 said that Jesus’ father is Joseph though Jesus was born from virgin Mary before Mary married to Joseph or having sex with him:
“1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen
generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen
generations. 18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with
child of the Holy Ghost.” [Matthew 1:16-18]
Jesus’ family tree at last follows Joseph’s instead of Mary’s.
On another verse described Jesus as the son of David, the son of Abraham.
The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of
David, the son of Abraham.” [Matthew 1:1]
Jesus the Son of Man:
“For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.” [Matthew 12:8]
According to Islam Jesus is the Son of Mary. Not the Son of God or Joseph:
“The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, whom had passed away before him. And his mother was a used to eat (earthly) food. See how we
make the revelations they are turned away!” [Al Maa’idah:75]
The Power of God
In the Bible, Genesis 32:25-28 said that Jacob fought with God from night until dawn. When God could not defeated Jacob, God touch the hollow of Jacob’s thigh.
God named Jacob as Israel because Jacob has fought God and men and Jacob prevailed:
“32:24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. 25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said,
I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou
power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.” [Genesis 32:24-28]
In the Gospel Matthew told how Jesus the God caught, spit, and beaten by men:
“27:27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus
into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole
band of soldiers.28 And they stripped him, and put on
him a scarlet robe.29 And when they had platted a
crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed
in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him,
and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!
30 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and
smote him on the head.
31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the
robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and
led him away to crucify him.” [Matthew 27:27-31]
In Islam God is the Most Powerful. He cannot be beaten by any man even if they are all join together against Him:
“If He will, He can be rid of you and bring (instead of you). That is not a hard thing for Allah.” [Al Faathir: 16-17]
“Thy Lord is the Absolute, the Lord of Mercy. If He will, He can remove you and can cause what He will to follow after you, even as He raised you from the seed
of other folk.” [Al An’aam:133]
From the verses of Holy Book above, can you tell us which the Most Powerful God is?
The Independence of God
In Gospel Matthew said how Jesus complain and cry: “My
God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”
[Matthew 27:46]
Do you think such statement will come out from the Most Powerful God?
In the Al Quran said that God is not a weak man that needs help:
“And say: Praise be to Allah, Who hath not taken unto Himself a son, and Who hath no partner in the Sovereignty, nor hath He any protecting friend through
dependence. And magnify Him with all magnificence.” [Al Israa’:111]
Whom should we worship for? The weak and need help God or the Most Powerful God?
The Knowledge of God
In Gospel Mark 11:12-13 said that Jesus felt hungry and did not know if the Fig tree is fruitless because it is not its season.
11:12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:
13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for
the time of figs was not yet.” [Mark 11:12-13]
In Islam God is All Knowing:
“And with Him are the keys of the invisible. None but He knoweth them. And He knoweth what is in the land and the sea. Not a leaf falleth but He knoweth it. Not
a grain amid the darkness of the earth, naught of wet or dry but it is noted in a clear record“ [Al An’aam:59]
Is God Sleep?
In Matthew 8:24 said that Jesus was a sleep:
“And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep.” [Matthew 8:24]
According to Islam, God never feel weak such as sleepy or sleep:
Allah! There is no God save Him, the Alive, the
Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtaketh Him.
Unto Him belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that intercedeth with Him save by His leave? He knoweth that which is
in front of them and that which is behind them, while they encompass nothing of His knowledge save what He will. His throne includeth the heavens and the earth,
and He is never weary of preserving them. He is the Sublime, the Tremendous.” [Al Baqarah:255]
Prohibition of Statue
In the Ten Commandments stated in Exodus 20:4-5 God forbid man to make any statue:
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children
unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me” [Exodus 20:4-5]
However the Christians now make many statues of Jesus
and Mary and put them on the churches.
In Islam making statues is forbidden. In Hadeeth
Bukharee, Ummu Salamah and Ummu Habibah said there is a beautiful church in Habsyi (Mary Church) with some beautiful statues. Muhammad said “When their saint died, the Christians will build church on the grave. Then they make many statues in the church. They are the worst creatures before God in the day of
judgement”
The Holy Book
Though the Jews Holy Book is quoted in Bible as the Old Testament, yet there are some significant differences between them. The Jews Holy Book mostly
written in Hebrew and a few in Aramaic. On the other the Old Testament in Christianity the oldest one written in Greek with 7 additional books.
The New Testament consists of 27 books (including 4 gospels) and originally written in Greek between 50-150 AD (Jesus died arount 29 AD).
The gospel consists of 4 different versions originally written in Greek namely: Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John. The Gospels written around 70-100 AD about 40
years after the death of Jesus.
For example, Luke wrote Gospel for a man called Theophilus
1:1 For as much as many have taken in hand to set
forth in order a declaration of those things which are
most surely believed among us,
2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were
eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of
all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, 4 That thou mightestknow the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast
been instructed.” [Luke 1:1-4]
Luke sometime only guesses such as Jesus about thirty years of age and use the word “As was supposed”.
“And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli” [Luke 3:23]
Though Jesus language is Aramaic, but the New Testament original language at least the oldest version is all in Greek.
If in Luke 3:23 Jesus’ grand father’s name is Heli,
In Matthew 1:16 Jesus’ grand father is Jacob:
“And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom
was born Jesus, who is called Christ” [Matthew 1:16]
On the other hand, there is only one version of the Al Quran which is memorized by millions of Muslims and still in its original language: Arab, the language of
Muhammad.
“Lo! We revealed it (Al Quran) on the Night of Power” [Al Qadr:1]
Al Quran revealed by Allah to Muhammad. And Muhammad passed it on his followers. Some of the followers memorized Al Quran, some wrote it down on several media (leaves, bones, leather, etc). Abu Bakar, Muhammad’s friend, gather the Al Quran to be one. And Usman, another Muhammad’s friend, then compiled the Quran into one book called Mushaf Usmani with punctuation mark so the spelling complies with the Arabic language standard.
The Circumcision Obligation for Men
In Judaism and Islam, Circumcision is an obligation for men. It is complied with Bible:
17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. 11 And ye shall
circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. 12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you,
every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting
covenant.
14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cutoff from his people; he hath broken my covenant”
[Genesis 17:10-14]
The uncircumcised man is regarded as unclean in Isaiah 52:1:
“Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the
uncircumcised and the unclean” [Isaiah 52:1]
However though God said in Genesis 17:13 that circumcision is an everlasting covenant, the Christians no longer doing the obligation because Paul who claimed become apostle after Jesus died (when Jesus alive Paul is Jesus enemy) said that
circumcision is no longer an obligation:
2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and
circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?” [Romans 2:25-29 – 3:1]
The Prohibition of Eating Swine
In Judaism and Islam, eating swine is strictly forbidden. It is complied with Leviticus 11:7-8 and Deuteronomy 14:8:
11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven-footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. 8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and
their carcass shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.” [Leviticus 11:7-8]
In the Al Quran the prohibition stated:
“He hath forbidden you only carrion, and blood, and swine flesh, and that which hath been immolated to (the name of) any other than Allah. But he who is
driven by necessity, neither craving nor transgressing, it is no sin for him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” [Al Baqarah:173]
Nevertheless Swine Flesh is a common food among the Christians now.
Original Sin
In the Christianity known the Original Sin Doctrine. All human race are sinners because of Adam committed sin by eating forbidden fruit. That is why Jesus sent
down as the Saviour to redeem the original sin. In Exodus 20:5 God said that He will punish the children, the third and fourth generation for the
iniquity of their fathers:
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children
unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;” [Exodus 20:5]
In Islam every one will only responsible for their own
sin. No one can be punished because of other people sin:
“Say: Shall I seek another than Allah for Lord, when
He is Lord of all things? Each soul earneth only on
its own account, nor doth any laden bear another's
load. Then unto your Lord is your return and He will
tell you that wherein ye differed.” [Al An’aam:164]
Slander on Lot
In the Bible, Genesis 19:30-38 said that Lot had drink wine and committed sexual intercourse with his own daughters (incest) and had children (or
grandchildren?) from them:
19:30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he
and his two daughters.
31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:32 Come, let
us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she
arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yester night with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
37 And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.” [Genesis 19:30-38]
In Islam stated that Lot is really a prophet and cleanfrom such a sin such as drinking liquor or doing incest:
“And lo! Lot verily was of those sent (to warn)” [Ash Shaafaat:133]
In the Quran stated that God has raised Lot’s degree
over people. If common people will not commit adultery
with their own daughter, then a prophet such as Lot
will not such a thing:
“And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot. Each one of them did We prefer above (Our) creatures” [Al An’aam:86]
Slander on David
In Bible, 2 Samuel 11:2-17 said that David (who in Matthew 1:1 described as Jesus’ father) committed adultery with Uriah’s wife, Bathsheba. After that,David ordered Joab to send Uriah to the front line of a battle and then deserted him so Uriah get killed by the enemy:
11:2 And it came to pass in an eveningtide, that David arose from off his bed, and walked upon the roof of the king's house: and from the roof he saw a woman
washing herself; and the woman was very beautiful to look upon.
3 And David sent and inquired after the woman. And one said, Is not this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?
4 And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto
her house.” [2 Samuel 11:2-4]
In 2 Samuel 13:11-14 also stated that the son of David, Amnon raped his own sister, Tamar:
13:11 And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister.
12 And she answered him, Nay, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel: do not thou this folly.
13 And I, whither shall I cause my shame to go? and as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the king; for
he will not withhold me from thee.
14 Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her.” [2 Samuel 13:11-14]
In the Al Quran, the Slander over David is denied:
“Those of the children of Israel who went astray were cursed by the tongue of David, and of Jesus, son of Mary. That was because they rebelled and used to
transgress.” [Al Maa-idah:78]
Prohibition of Adultery / Sex Story
In the story of Adultery or prohibition of Adultery, the Bible described it very detailed:
23:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother:3 And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity.
4 And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is
Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.
5 And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, 6 Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses.
7 Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all of them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself.
8 Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt:for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her. 9 Wherefore I have delivered her into the hand of her lovers, into the hand of the Assyrians, upon whom she doted.
0 These discovered her nakedness: they took her sons and her daughters, and slew her with the sword: and she became famous among women; for they had executed
judgment upon her.
11 And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms.
12 She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men.
13 Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way,
14 And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men portrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion,15 Girded with
girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the
land of their nativity:16 And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea.
17 And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated
from them.
18 So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister.
19 Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. 20 For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.
21 Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth.” [Ezekiel 23:1-21]
In Song of Solomon 7:1-8 the sexual desire described like this:
7:1 How beautiful are thy feet with shoes, O prince's daughter! the joints of thy thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a cunning workman.
2 Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.
3 Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.
4 Thy neck is as a tower of ivory; thine eyes like the fishpools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bathrabbim: thy nose is as the tower of Lebanon which looketh toward
Damascus.
5 Thine head upon thee is like Carmel, and the hair of thine head like purple; the king is held in the galleries.
6 How fair and how pleasant art thou, O love, for delights!
7 This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes.
8 I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose
like apples” [Song of Solomon 7:1-8]
In the Al Quran the prohibition of Adultery described in a gentle way so it do not arouse sexual desire of its readers. The readers will not have desire to have
sex with his wife or close friend or masturbate after reading the holy book:
“And come not near unto adultery. Lo! it is an abomination and an evil way. “ [Al Israa’:32]
Even the permission of having sex in the month of fasting described in a very decent way:
“It is made lawful for you to go unto your wives on the night of the fast. They are raiment for you and ye are raiment for them.” [Al Baqarah:187]
That is the Holy Book of Al Quran!
Retaliation Law
In the Old Testament, Exodus 21:11-22:19 stated the Retaliation Law, namely death sentence for killer, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth:
“He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.” [Exodus 21:12]
“21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.” [Exodus 21:24-25]
But on the New Testament the Retaliation Law is eliminated and the Christians no longer follow the rule.
In the Al Quran the Retaliation Law restored:
“O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female
for the female...” [Al Baqarah:178]
The Retaliation Law applied so people will think twice before they kill others. If they kill other people then they will be sentenced to death so they could no
longer kill innocent people again in the future By this way the world will be safer for innocent people (but not for the killers):
“And there is life for you in retaliation, O men of understanding, that ye may ward off (evil).” [Al Baqarah:179]
Evil or Serpent who Cheated Adam and Eve?
In Genesis 3:1-19 said that Serpent is the most clever among animals and could talk so it could cheat human: Adam and Eve:
3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat
of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall
be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit
thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.” [Genesis 3:1-6]
3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What isthis that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly
shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life” [Genesis 3:13-14]
In the Quran said that the cheater of Adam and Eve is Satan. Not animal like serpent:
“But Satan caused them to deflect there from and expelled them from the (happy) state in which they were; and We said: Fall down, one of you a foe untothe other! There shall be for you on earth ahabitation and provision for a tune.” [Al Baqarah:36]
If in the Christianity Adam and Eve remain as sinners and passed their sin to their descendants as original sin, in Islam after they regretted and asked God’s
forgiveness, God forgive them. There is no original sin to pass to their descendants.
“Then Adam received from his Lord words (of revelation), and He relented toward him. Lo! He is the Relenting the Merciful.” [Al Baqarah:37]
The Jews regard themselves as the Chosen People while the Christians believe there is no salvation for those who don’t believe Jesus as a God so they send many
evangelists/missionaries all over the world to make people become Christians. Islam said only Islam the religion that God loves:
“Lo! religion with Allah is The Surrender to His will and guidance (Islam). Those who (formerly) received the Scripture differed only after knowledge came unto
them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieves the revelations of Allah (will find that) Lo! Allah is swift at reckoning.” [Ali ‘Imran:19]
“And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender to Allah (Islam) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.” [Ali ‘Imran:85]
Those are some differences in Judaism, Christianity,
and Islam. Though there are many more differences, yet
Muslims are recommended to have a good social
relationship with them as long they are not hostile or
insulting Muslims or Islam.
Though there is no compulsion in religion, yet Islam
forbids Muslims to mix their religions with others.
Your religion is for you and our religion is for us.
Some of the biggest misconceptions that many non-Muslims have about Islam have to do with the word “Allah”. For various reasons, many people have come to believe that Muslims worship a different God than Christians and Jews. This is totally false, since “Allah” is simply the Arabic word for “God” - and there is only One God. Let there be no doubt - Muslims worship the God of Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus - peace be upon them all. However, it is certainly true that Jews, Christians and Muslims all have different concepts of Almighty God. For example, Muslims - like Jews - reject the Christian beliefs of the Trinity and the Divine Incarnation. This, however, doesn’t mean that each of these three religions worships a different God - because, as we have already said, there is only One True God. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all claim to be “Abrahamic Faiths”, and all of them are also classified as “monotheistic”. However, Islam teaches that other religions have, in one way or another, distorted and nullified a pure and proper belief in Almighty God by neglecting His true teachings and mixing them with man-made ideas. First of all, it is important to note that “Allah” is the same word that Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews use for God. If you pick up an Arabic Bible, you will see the word “Allah” being used where “God” is used in English. This is because “Allah” is the only word in the Arabic language equivalent to the English word “God” with a capital “G”. Additionally, the word “Allah” cannot be made plural or given gender (i.e. masculine or feminine), which goes hand-in-hand with the Islamic concept of God. Because of this, and also because the Qur’an, which is the holy scripture of Muslims, was revealed in the Arabic language, some Muslims use the word “Allah” for “God”, even when they are speaking other languages. This is not unique to the word “Allah”, since many Muslims tend to use Arabic words when discussing Islamic issues, regardless of the language which they speak. This is because the universal teachings of Islam - even though they have been translated iin every major language - have been preserved in the Arabic language.It is interesting to note that the Aramaic word “El”, which is the word for God in the language that Jesus spoke, is certainly more similar in sound to the word “Allah” than the English word “God”. This also holds true for the various Hebrew words for God, which are “El” and “Elah”, and the plural form “Elohim”. The reason for these similarities is that Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic are all Semitic languages with common origins. It should also be noted that in translating the Bible into English, the Hebrew word “El” is translated variously as “God”, “god” and “angel”! This imprecise language allows different translators, based on their preconceived notions, to translate the word to fit their own views. The Arabic word “Allah” presents no such difficulty or ambiguity, since it is only used for Almighty God alone. Additionally, in English, the only difference between “god”, meaning a false god, and “God”, meaning the One True God, is the capital “G”. In the Arabic alphabet, since it does not have capital letters, the word for God (i.e. Allah) is formed by adding the equivalent to the English word “the” (Al-) to the Arabic word for “god/God” (ilah). So the Arabic word “Allah” literally it means “The God” - the “Al-” in Arabic basically serving the same function as the capital “G” in English. Due to the above mentioned facts, a more accurate translation of the word “Allah” into English might be “The One -and-Only God” or “The One Truee God”.
More importantly, it should also be noted that the Arabic word “Allah” contains a deep religious message due to its root meaning and origin. This is because it stems from the Arabic verb ta’allaha (or alaha), which means “to be worshipped”. Thus in Arabic, the word “Allah” means “The One who deserves all worship”. This, in a nutshell, is the Pure Monotheistic message of Islam. You see, according to Islam, “monotheism” is much more than simply believing in the existence of “only One God” - as seemingly opposed to two, three or more. If one understands the root meaning of the word “Allah”, this point should become clear. One should understand that Islam’s criticism of the other religions that claim to be “monotheistic” is not because they are “polytheistic” in the classic sense, but because they direct various forms of worship to other than Almighty God. We will discuss the meaning of worship in Islam below, however, before moving on it should be noted that many non-Muslims are unaware of the distinction between simply believing in the existence of only One God and reserving all worship for Him alone. Many Christians are painfully unaware of this point, and thus you often find them asking how Muslims can accuse the followers of Jesus, peace be upon him, of being “polytheists” when they were all “monotheistic Jews”. First of all, it should be clarified that the word “polytheist” doesn’t really sound right in this context, since to many it implies simply believing in the existence of more than one God. So in an Islamic context, “associators”, “man-worshippers” or “creature worshippers” might be more accurate and appropriate terms - especially since Christians believe Jesus to be both “100% God and 100% man”, while still paying lip-service to God’s “Oneness”. However, as we’re previously touched upon, what is really at the root of this problem is the fact that Christians - as well as the members of other religions - don’t really know what “monotheism” means - especially in the Islamic sense. All of the books, articles and papers that I’ve read which were written by Christians invariably limit “monotheism” to believing in the existence of “One Sovereign and Creator God”. Islam, however, teaches much more than this.
Suffice it to say that just because someone claims to be a “monotheistic” Jew, Christian or Muslim, that doesn’t keep them from falling into corrupt beliefs and idolatrous practices. Many people, including some Muslims, claim belief in “One God” even though they’ve fallen into acts of idolatry. Certainly, many Protestants accuse Roman Catholics of idolatrous practices in regards to the saints and the Virgin Mary. Likewise, the Greek Orthodox Church is considered “idolatrous” by many other Christians because in much of their worship they use icons. However, if you ask a Roman Catholic or a Greek Orthodox person if God is “One”, they will invariably answer: “Yes!”. This lip-service, however, does not stop them from being “creature worshipping” idolaters. The same goes for Hindus, who just consider their gods to be “manifestations” or “incarnations” of the One Supreme God.
Everyone should be aware of the fact that throughout the long history of the “Abrahamic Faiths”, there have people who, while believing in “One God”, have adopted beliefs and practices that completely nullify their claim to “monotheism”. This is the Muslim view of Christians. We’re well aware of the fact that they claim belief in “One God” with their lips, but this doesn’t mean that they don’t nullify their claim in other ways. This is because many people simply haven’t been taught everything that Pure Monotheism entails. From an Islamic point of view, “monotheism” can be nullified in many ways. For example, simply believing that it is permissible to rule by Western “liberal” and “democratic” laws in lieu of the Divinely Revealed Law of Almighty God makes one a “polytheist”. Certainly, a person who does such a thing, whether Jewish, Christian or Muslim, doesn’t ever believe that there is another Almighty Creator and Sovereign Lord. However, for all practical purposes, such a person has take another “god”, whether they choose to admit it or not. In this way they are associating partners with Almighty God (Arabic: shirk), and thus become a “polytheist” in a practical sense, regardless of their lip-service to “monotheism”. This holds true even if the person doesn’t believe what they are doing is “worship”. For example, Roman Catholics who pray to the Virgin Mary will staunchly deny that they are “worshipping” her. They instead call it “adoration” or some other watered-down term. However, from an Islamic point of view, what is worship if not this? Islam teaches that prayer and supplication are the marrow of worship, so if one directs their prayers to an intermediary (even if the pray is “ultimately” meant for God), then what is left of worship? Additionally, how can someone who believes in Almighty God follow man-made laws instead of God’s Law, without admitting that they’ve begun worshipping other than God? Do they know better than God?
Additionally, the Old Testament makes it perfectly clear that making a “graven image” of any created thing (not to mention ones which are supposed to “represent” Almighty God) is prohibited. Please see Exodus 20:4-6, Leviticus 26:1 and Deuteronomy 4:16, 23, 25, 5:8 and Nehemiah 9:6 for some statements in regards to this point. Without addressing the issue that Christians commonly violate the unambiguous commandment not to even “make” representations of anything that is in the “heavens above or on the earth beneath”, these verses not only teach that worshipping idols is prohibited, but also that Almighty God is eternally distinct from His creation and thus nothing in His creation can represent Him. To believe otherwise is to be a de facto idol worshipper - even if one claims belief in one, and only one, “True God”. In Exodus 20:4-6 and Deuteronomy 4:16, Almighty God - who is a “Jealous God” - makes it perfectly clear that He is distinct from His creation.
By giving such clear and merciful guidance to human beings, God is establishing a universal and eternal Truth for the benefit of mankind. This eternal Truth is the bedrock of religious guidance, since once people begin to believe that Almighty God mixes with or can be represented by His creation, they can be duped into believing almost anything. Once someone accepts that God has become “incarnate” in His creation, or that someone or something is a “manifestation” - and thus representation - of Him, the floodgates are open and “Truth” becomes a matter of subjective guesswork. Once the first and most basic concept is violated - regardless of how complicated and sophisticated the rationale for it might be - it is very easy to fall further and further away from the Eternal Truth of Pure Monotheism. In the final analysis, it is not a question of whether God is capable of becoming a man, but rather a question of whether one bases their beliefs about God on clear, unambiguous and authentic guidance. Once it is left up to the human mind to decide what Almighty God can and cannot do, the stage is set for misguidance to take root. Human speculation about God only ends up leading to misguidance and despair, since no clear conclusions can ever be reached. For example, is God capable of creating an object so heavy that He is incapable of moving it? If not, does that mean that He is incapable? It is because of misguided questions like this that Islam clearly teaches that mankind should only say about God what He has said about Himself. This means all of our ideas about God must be based on Revelation - not human speculation. In short, the final prophet of Islam - Muhammad - was sent by Almighty God to preach the same Pure Monotheism that was practiced by Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus - peace be upon them all. This Pure Monotheism means not only believing that there is only One God in existence, but realizing that He is transcedent above His creation and that all worship is due to Him alone.
Before concluding, we should probably address the practice of those Muslims who insist on using the Arabic word “Allah” even when speaking English. Even though this practice certainly is not to be condemned when it is done around those who understand the meaning of the Arabic word “Allah”, it is my experience - both during my years as a non-Muslim and my years as a Muslim - that such a practice can (and usually ddoes) breed misunderstanding. It seems that often times, many of the Muslims who use the word “Allah” in lieu of the word “God”, even when trying to attract people to Islam, are unaware of the severe misunderstandings that many non-Muslims have about Islam (and the distorted way which Islam has been portrayed in the West). Insisting on using the word “Allah” only fuels the flames of misunderstanding - so there’s no good reason to do it. I’ve often wondered what value some Muslims think that using the word “Allah” adds to the Pure Message that they are trying to convey. ( . . . and I’m still waiting for an answer!) Unfortunately, those Muslims who insist on using the word “Allah” even when addressing non-Muslims who are unfamiliar with Islam and the Arabic language, do both a disservice to themselves and their religion. Unfortunately, this practice is usually based on the false assumption - by a non-native speaker of English - that the word “God” in English is incapable of expressing a pure and proper belief in Almighty God. This is certainly false. If someone says that the English word “God” cannot be used to express the Pure Islamic Belief in Tawhid, they are wrong not because they don’t understand Tawhid, but simply because they don’t understand the English language. Many people who insist on using the Arabic word “Allah” usually don’t realize this, because in reality, they are not so much affirming the word “Allah” as they are rejecting the word “God” as unsuitable - based on incorrect assumptions. For someone to assume that the word “God” presupposes a certain theological point-of-view (such as the Trinity) is simply Wrong - and that’s Wrong with a capital “W”. To say the word “God” should be rejected because it can be changed into “god”, “gods” or “goddess” is illogical because each of these words has a distinctive meaning and a distinctive spelling - at least to someone who knows how to speak English correctly. Using the same logic, I can demonstrate that the root letters “ktb” can be used to form the Arabic words “kitab” (book), “maktabah” (library), “maktab” (office) and “kaatib” (writer), but does that mean that these words have the same meaning? Do Arabic-speaking people go through life confusing libraries with writers and offices with books (both in conversation and in reality)? I think not! This is not to mention the fact that if the Arabic “Al-” was put in front of these words in order to make them definite, confusion would be even less likely! So the logic in both cases is the same, and this is because even though the same letters are used in “God” and “god”, these two words have two different meanings in the English language. The capital “G” implies something different than the small “g” - and anyone who denies this simply doesn’t know how to speak the English language.
In concluding this point, it should be mentioned that Arabic-speaking Muslims who believe in Pure Tawhid, Arabic-speaking Christians, the idol worshippers of Mecca and (so-called) Muslims who believe in “Wahdat al-Wujud” all use the word “Allah”. However, does this guarantee all of them proper belief in “Allah”? Certainly not, because if they have a corrupt concept of “Allah” it doesn’t matter what word they use!
This brings us to a more important point: It should be clearly understood that what Islam is primarily concerned with is correcting mankind’s concept of Almighty God. What we are ultimately going to be held accountable at the end of our life is not whether we prefer the word “Allah” over the word “God”, but what our concept of God is. Language is only a side issue. A person can have an incorrect concept of God while using the word “Allah”, and likewise a person can have a correct concept of God while using the word “God”. This is because both of these words are equally capable of being misused and being improperly defined. As we’ve already mentioned, using the word “Allah” no more insinuates belief in the Unity of God than the use of the word “God” insinuates belief in the Trinity - or any other theological opinion. Naturally, when God sends a revelation to mankind through a prophet, He is going to send it in a language that the people who receive it can understand and relate to. Almighty God makes this clear in the Qur’an, when He states:
“Never did We send a Messenger except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people in order to make (things) clear to them.”
(Qur’an, Chapter 14 - “Abraham”, Verse 4)
As Muslims, we think that it is unfortunate that we have to go into details on such seemingly minor issues, but so many falsehoods have been heaped upon our religion, that we feel that it is our duty to try to break down the barriers of falsehood. This isn’t always easy, since there is a lot of anti-Islamic literature in existence which tries to make Islam look like something strange and foreign to Westerners. There are some people out there, who are obviously not on the side of truth, that want to get people to believe that “Allah” is just some Arabian “god”, and that Islam is completely “other” - meaning that it has no common roots with the other Abrahamic religions (i.e. Christianity and Judaism). To say that Muslims worship a different “God” because they say “Allah” is just as illogical as saying that French people worship another God because they use the word “Dieu”, that Spanish-speaking people worship a different God because they say “Dios” or that the Hebrews worshipped a different God because they sometimes call Him “Yahweh”. Certainly, reasoning like this is quite ridiculous! It should also be mentioned, that claiming that any one language uses the only the correct word for God is tantamount to denying the universality of God’s message to mankind, which was to all nations, tribes and people through various prophets who spoke different languages.
Before closing, we would like everyone to be aware of the fact that some Christian missionary organizations print English literature intended to teach Christians about Islam which say such things as: “Allah is the god of the Muslims” and that “Muhammad came to get people to believe in the god Allah” - implying that “Allah” is some sort of false “god”. However, when these same organizations print literature in the Arabic language, hoping to lead Arabic-speaking Muslims “to Christ”, they use the word “Allah” for God. It seems that if they were on the side of truth, they would not have to resort to such inconsistencies. And on an even more ridiculous note . . . there are also missionary organizations that exceed this in ignorance (or deceit) by writing books that call on Muslims to give up their belief in “Allah”, and instead worship the “Lord” Jesus, “the Son of God”. Besides making it abundantly clear that they are outside the community of Pure Monotheism, the people who write such material don’t even realize that if they wrote such a pamphlet in Arabic, it would be self-contradictory. This is because in an Arabic Bible Jesus is the “Son of Allah”! If an Arabic-speaking person gave up the worship of “Allah”, they would have no God to worship, since “Allah” is simply the Arabic word for God!
Before we conclude, however, we would like to ask our readers to ask themselves what they think the reasons are behind all of these lies? If Islam was just some false religion that didn’t make any sense, would so many people, from Western scholars to Christian missionaries, have to tell so many lies about it? The reason is that the Ultimate Truth of Islam stands on solid ground and its unshakable belief in the Unity of God is above reproach. Due to this, Christians can’t criticize its doctrines directly, but instead make up things about Islam that aren’t true so that people lose the desire to learn more. If Muslims were able to present Islam in the proper way to people in the West, it surely might make many people reconsider and re-evaluate their own beliefs. It is quite likely that Christians, when they find out that there is a universal religion in the world that teaches people to worship and love God, while also practicing Pure Monotheism, would at least feel that they should re-examine the basis for their own beliefs
"....talking of the ‘shared values of love of God and love of neighbour’ is precisely the sort of pseudo-theological multi-faith pap which confuses the faithful and leads people astray. Jesus defined one’s neighbour as everyone, including our enemies. The Qur’an makes it clear that the Muslim’s neighbours are ranked, with the kuffar treated somewhat differently from the ummah. The God of the Christians is not the God of the Muslims. One is YHWH, the other is Allah; one is immanent, the other is aloof; one has revealed himself, the other cannot be revealed; one is Father, the other is unknown and unknowable; one became man and dwelt among us; the other cannot condescend; one is mutable and responsive, the other is immutable and immovable; one is agape, the other is more judgemental; one is Trinity in unity, the other is unity; one died for us that we may be redeemed, the other refutes that Jesus died."
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/10/christian-muslim-statement-on-global.html
P.S. How can God be a single unity? All functioning phenomena are composite and can only interact with one another by giving part of themselves or taking part of the other into themselves (hence the Trinity). A totally unified Allah doesn't make philosophical sense. Such an entity could never interact with anything else.
P.S. How can God be a single unity? All functioning phenomena are composite and can only interact with one another by giving part of themselves or taking part of the other into themselves (hence the Trinity). A totally unified Allah doesn't make philosophical sense. Such an entity could never interact with anything else.
PRETEND TO BE CLEVER EH SHAMROCK?JUST KEEP SILENT SAME AS THE MYSTERIOUS WAY OF TRINITY.FAMILY PLANNING ACTUALLY.HAHA.
im a muslim, and i dont believe a muslim should be cursing... so im suprised. anyways i didnt read through the entire blog because i thought it was reel ignorant. thats the least i have to say. if u wanna know about the islam, read the quran, and get reliable sources. dont just follow what u hear because thats like ur following things like ur blindfolded. what this blog says is definately not true... ppl need to see the truth about islam because almost everyone has the wrong image. plzz refer to the quran and reliable sources instead of believing some lies u read of the internet. thanx!
oh my. Christians have nothing better to do than writing a filthy blog cursing other person's belief.
stop worrying about muslims and start worrying about your morality...sheesh
Men behaving like pigs- something i would have paid to see.
i'm a muslim by birth,don't even have arab blood in me,and don't even have any arabic friend.i cover my hair,and free to wear how much makeup that i want.i pray 5 times a day, and manage to go to work on my own,only reaching home at 7pm, just in time to iron my work clothes for the next day and get ready to sleep.
i love animals, i even think dogs and little piggies are cute eventhough i can't touch them, i have non-muslim friends that i respect,a steady boyfriend that my parents won't allow to marry until we both have steady jobs.although this must have been flat and boring for some people, this is life and i'm happy.
you see,this is the only muslim life that i know.we don't go out screaming obscenities to non-muslims bcoz we're neighbors with them,and they're our friends."To you your religion,and to me mine".we don't plan massacres as weekend family activity.we protect young children,bcoz even if you're 18,you still don't know everything and we want to protect you from making mistakes.we follow rules,avoid speeding,and considering we don't drink alcohol and have sex like pigs, we don't get caught taking drugs,worry about to have abortion or not to have abortion, and ended up having babies when we're 14 an living in trailer parks.
don't you understand?when we are prohibited to do something, there are very logical and specific explanations for it.i hate lizards but i can't even bear to smack my shoe on one.
WHAT DETERMINES YOU IS JUST YOU.
You sound like a very nice person.
The point here is not that all Muslims are bad, but that all muslims who believe these things we are highlighting are dangerous.
and look who is talking.
No.
I don't believe in stoning apostates, gays, and adulterers. And, I don't believe that government should stipulate that women are only legally worth half that of men.
Islam believes those things. Your most sacred country, Saudi Arabia, stipulates all those things in it's law. And, it's law is Sharia from the Koran and the Hadith. That's Islam.
I don't believe in stuff like that. And, I don't think you do either.
Fabricators of lies and deceits.
My duty is call you to repent.Do all of you think you will live forever? Death if you forget is just around the corner.So laugh while you can and make fun of the creator and his prophet at your perils. Are your parents alive? If they are gone where do they go? Is being buried there in coffins their final resting place? Death will come to you sooner or later. Repent and seek forgiveness.
Nefarious human beings @ fabricators of lies and deceits.
Your piece of research documents plumb the depth of dishonour and indecency and masterpiece of falsehood. Repent now..If you are so smart stop the angels of death from giving you and you band of hell dwellers brothers an ignominious end. Did your parents of friends or grandpa manage to stop them? Ha.ha.ha Repent now. prepare for your death..when the angels come calling.
What a joke, Pastorius.
It's sad to see that you have to hide behind a monitor in order to post such fabricated information. I happen to be Christian and like you, I was once too spewing false information about a religion I knew nothing about. Rather than gathering unreliable information off a myriad of biased websites, I took the time to gather my information directly from the source, the Qur'an.
Give it a try.
Hey, who knows, your IQ might even hit the double digits. :)
It's also hilarious how you brushed off the post regarding the "Ten things people should know about Islam" with more of your stupidity. If a Pastor sexually abused a child, does that allow the rest of the world to view the religion as child-abusing? If a Pastor shows hatred towards people of a certain ethnic background, does that make all Christians racist? No, it doesn't. So why would you assume that the thoughts and opinion of certain Muslim extremists are the same as those of your average Muslim?
I feel sorry for you, bud.
Chris,
You've read the Koran and the Hadith? If so, then you know that the Prophet, the perfect human being - the example to all who come after him, had sex with Ayisha at nine years of age.
Nine.
Not a priest. The Prophet.
no one that has ever read this thread or will ever read it has lived through the ages of the three prophets ... we were all just raised in a family that believes in a certain religion ... we all have a holy book, prayers, holy places to visit and perform rituals and feastes and celebrations. We believed in it and were brought up this way.
Although i totally disagree with what is being said here and I am extreemly offended, however i will be totally unbiased.
you speak of modernization, totally support it and take pride in it. a very famous quote in science says " it doesnt matter who said it or what he said ... if it doesnt agree with the experiment it is not true" ... this is totally right and logical ... however our only problem here is that we dont have an experiment ... one can only believe and hear stories mixed with politics from biased and unbiased entities.
keeping this in mind, if we only consider Jewdism , Christianity and Islam, each one of us only has only a 33.33% chance that he is abiding by the correct religion, so as much as you believe in your religion, i dont think its wise to offend other religions ... just in case
On the other hand, I dont think its fair to label a whole religion (including people that believed in it and died and you never met ... people currently alive believing in it and you never met ... people that will believe in it that you will never get to meet)because of a few bad apples.
to explain what i mean i will take christianity for example and by doing this i mean no offense what so ever ... this is just due to my limited amount of knowledge concerning other examples. In the european dark ages, millions of women were burnt at the stake by the church because of WITCHCRAFT!!
does this mean that christianity is an evil religion? NO ... did Christ order the killing of women? NO he didnt. just because a few were missguided FROM OUR VERY NARROW AND LIMITED AND IMPERFECT point of view does not mean it is the general case.
Lastly, this is a question i as my self alot and i am sure alot of peole do. I just felt it was lacking in this conversation. " who am I to judge?" Moses did not judge anyone ... Christ did not judge anyone ... I know it might be pointless to say this but also Muhammad never judged anyone for your information. If the three profits never judged, who are we to judge or who or what gives us the right to?
Lastly, Christians and Jews are not regarded in islam as Kufars, however, they are called the " people of the book" the holy books that were once given to Moses and Christ.muslims are to be friendly and kind to the people of the book and should respect them and their beliefs and believe in the bible and tawrah and Moses and Christ. Muhammad married a christian and a jew without them converting.
I am not sure what are you trying to do here, but my advice is read your holy book well. try to read other holy books and try to understand them well. That is how you should find peace.
I am a muslim and i want to say that i read all your points, and i am going to demonstrate how i responeded to them: My image about Chritianity, Jewdism or any other religion you might believe in is not changed one single bit because of one missguided opinion ... I still hold myrespect to all religions and i will have great respect for you if you take this constructively. Best of luck
Thanks, brother.
Your most welcome,
however to be completely fair, there are some behaviors that i do not agree with ... like for example the suicide bombers. I think I owe every body an explanation for this phenomenon, but please keep an open mind.
I believe that it is totally psycological and human nature and has nothing to do with religion.
Take the japanese fighters in world war 2, when the plane runs out of ammo, the pilot used to crash his own plane with him and the copilot in it into the best looking target he can find. Now most of the japanese are neither muslims, jews or chritians. now how would you explain that? just because they were driven to the point of desperation. they have nothing left to lose!! their counrty has been nuked, most probably all their family members are dead and no one is waiting for their victorious return!!
Looking at the muslim world, have you ever heard of suicide bombing from counrties like Egypt, Emirates or Bahrain? they are all muslim countries yet these incidents happen in regions having conflicts and all terrorist attaacks on the US originated from regions already having strugles... the situation has been like this for ages and all the people over there are ignorant uneducated people, the easiest type to manipulate and brainwash by a corrupt political leadership... if that is not enough, check this out www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrNam6dXmt0 and ask your self why she did that knowing that one mistake and its over for her.
I want to make it clear that i m not against the US politics i am just trying to explain this phenomenon to the best of my ability.
Anyway, apparently you have read the Koran and hadith ... Now have you read "THE" koran or just a man made translation? this is a very important question. why is there a huge significance? let me explain (however my explanation will be based upon my beliefs and what was mentioned in the koran); if you want to impress or get the attention of some one, you beat him in his own game. According to what was mentioned in the Koran, the people of moses were very good magicians, his mirical was that he threw his stick to the ground and it turns into a snake that ate up all their phony snake like ropes. In addition, moses was a man of colour, he was able to put his hand in his pocket and then it turns white with a magnificent aura. Christ's people were very good at medicin. He was able to cure diseases and disabilites that were thought to be impossible ... like blindness, in addition to that he once raised a dead person and they let him die again to know who the murderer was. These were his miricals. Muhammads mirical was the koran. As you know Arabic is a very difficult language. Some say its the second most dificult language after chines. The arabs used to take pride in their language so much that they adressed each other in poetry. The koran is much better than their words that no one back then beleived it is the words of a man. I am 21 years old, mother tongue is arabic, living in an arabic muslim country, still cannot full comprehend and understand every word in the koran, neither does anyone in the muslim world. Some things are as clear as can be, others, you just cant follow or understand the sequence word for word, you can only get a general idea of whats being said.
My brother, I highly doubt that you got the true essence of the koran from a translation. Please keep that in mind while interpreting
This is to all,never mind 20 things, i say in Afghanistan,Iraq name me one insentance of sueside bombings before the Americans went and invaded those countries, and similar in philistine no bombers until the creation of Isreal, so now we know the reason behind these sueside bombings!
Hi Anonymous,
Thanks for the intelligent response. I will respond to your points one by one.
You said: Take the japanese fighters in world war 2, when the plane runs out of ammo, the pilot used to crash his own plane with him and the copilot in it into the best looking target he can find. Now most of the japanese are neither muslims, jews or chritians. now how would you explain that?
I say: That's right. Islam, as an ideology, certainly does not have a lock on evil. The Japanese were driven to do what they did by a tribalist version of Shinto Buddhism, whereby they believed they, the tribe of Japan, were the most important human beings on Earth, and that their leader, the Emperor Hirohito was the Sun God. Therefore, their cause, since it was clearly the work of God, was absolutely holy, and above any other law on Earth.
The Nazis were the same in their fanatical belief.
There is no doubt. that there are many Muslims like you, who are not fanatical, and would not do the things that so many of your brothers and sisters in Allah do.
However, unfortunately, major parts of the Islamic world are ruled by people who do, indeed, preach this brand of absolutist and fanatical Islam. For instance, Saudi Arabia rules by strict Sharia, whereby it is deemed to be right to kill people for being apostates or homosexuals. Iran is also like this, as is the Sudan, Nigeria, the Palestinian Territories, and the UAE. Additionally, there are parts of Kenya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Philippines, and many other countries, which are ruled in the same fashion.
Indeed, there have been attempts to set up Sharia as law within parts of Britain and France.
This is a very dangerous development, and we stand against this kind of Islam, or perhaps I should say, we stand against strict Sharia and violent Jihad as a means of subduing a population of people who do not adhere to the strictures of the extremists.
I hope that is clear.
Anonymous,
You asked: Anyway, apparently you have read the Koran and hadith ... Now have you read "THE" koran or just a man made translation?
I reply: No, I do not read Arabic. However, just as I don't buy the idea that a scientist like Einstein, or Darwin, can not be translated into different languages, and still have the truth remain intact, neither do I buy the idea that the only way to understand the Koran is to read it in the original Arabic.
If the translation is incorrect, then scholars can correct. That's their prerogative.
The translations I have read (to the extent that I have read the Koran and Hadith) are by Muslims, for Muslims. They are not the work of non-Muslims.
Muslims are responsible for carrying their religion forward, just as Jews and Christians are responsible for their respective religions.
Anonymous,
You said: I am 21 years old, mother tongue is arabic, living in an arabic muslim country, still cannot full comprehend and understand every word in the koran, neither does anyone in the muslim world. Some things are as clear as can be, others, you just cant follow or understand the sequence word for word, you can only get a general idea of whats being said.
I say: I am not surprised. I don't think there is anything of importance in this world which is readily understood in its entirety by any one person.
Even such a simple thing as love is never understood completely by any individual, right?
No one person understands the Bible comletely. Nor, does any one person understand the U.S. Constitution completely.
This is why we have laws, and judges, and legislatures, and lawyers, and opinion columnists, and elections, etc. These are the mechanisms by which we interpret, and attempt to continually reform our interpretations, so that we can always strive towards being the best we can be.
In your religion, there is the concept of Ijma.
Ijmāʿ ( Arabic, إجماع) refers to the consensus of the ummah, the community of Muslims, those practicing Islam, or of the ulema, those learned in the relevant topic. Islamic law prescribes specific means of consensus decision making which Muslims are to follow in making and enforcing law.
The hadith "My community will never agree upon an error" is often cited as support for the validity of ijma.
Sunni Muslims regard ijma as the fourth fundamental source of law, after Qur'an, Sunnah, and qiyas (analogy).
If I were you, I would take that intellect of yours, and I would work towards building a society based upon the idea of Ijma.
That is the great hope for Freedom and Democracy within an Islamic context.
akhter said...
This is to all,never mind 20 things, i say in Afghanistan,Iraq name me one insentance of sueside bombings before the Americans went and invaded those countries, and similar in philistine no bombers until the creation of Isreal, so now we know the reason behind these sueside bombings!
I say: Ok, so you think the U.S. should have let the Taliban get away with doing what it did, in collusion with Al Qaeda, to New York and Washington DC. Is that right?
Definitly the US should not have let them get away. I do not believe in killing innocents for any cause. I totally understand that not all the american people argee with the actions of their government and even if there is a portion that does, it doesnt justify terrorist attacks by any means. I am totally against terrorism and I believe Islam is against terrorism as there has never been a suicidal assassination ordered by the prophet. I cannot denie that there is a religous aspect concerning the suicidal bombings (the promise of paradise/ heaven) however, i believe that this is only the brain wash some use. In Islam commiting suicide IS kufr stated very clearly. so dont you think that suicide bombing is murder and commiting suicide? specially that it is targeted at innocent people who had nothing to do with any sort of actions against the terrorists. God stated in the koran that we should be friendly and kind to all people specially the "people of the book" and that we should not fight them unless they start it ... you want to fight ... join the army dont kill innocents minding their own business which is the case with most americans. However, as much as i am against suicidal and terrorist attacks, please try not to relate it to Islam as a religion, but rather relate it to a nation in distress ... (To Pastorius:)just like when the japanese where having a hard time, their religion kicked in.
To Pastorius:
I cannot argue against the translation issue you mentioned. Scholars must take resposibility for their work and actions, however, take it from me a person that is not fanatical like you said (which I greatly appreciat), my brother i think you have a general wrong impression. Its my fault and the fault of others like me that we dont have clear enough unbiased references.
I really appreciat your inniative and i dont take it negatively at all. I really dont like some of the agressive responses from people who dont agree with you as this is a very good way to bridge the gap between the two worlds.
Lastly, since has turned into an intelligent conversaion, i would really like to know your opinion regarding a certain question, but first i must ask you " Do you believ in the ultimate power of God? That he is capabel of everything and that he knows everthingy (past/present/Future) ?"
Anonymous,
You asked: " Do you believ in the ultimate power of God? That he is capabel of everything and that he knows everthingy (past/present/Future) ?"
I answer: Yes, I do. However, you know I am not Muslim.
The Bible says, Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God, and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love, does not know God, for God is love."
As I said above, even on such a simple subject as love, no man knows the entirety of the subject.
If a Muslim is filled with love in his heart, I have a hard time believing he does not know God. However, if a Muslim is filled with hatred, disdain, apathy, or disregard for those who are not Muslim, then I have a hard time believing he and I know the same God.
In fact, I would call the God of those who kill in the name of religion, a very bloodthirsty God, and traditionally, those who worship such a god are called worshippers of Moloch.
Moloch = Moloch, Molech, Molekh, or Molek, representing semitic מלך m-l-k, (a root which occurs in various Hebrew and Arabic words related to kings) is either the name of a god or the name of a particular kind of sacrifice associated with fire. Moloch was historically affiliated with cultures throughout the Middle East, including but not limited to the Hebrew, Egyptian, Canaanite, Phoenician and related cultures in North Africa and the Levant.
In modern English usage, "Moloch" can refer derivatively to any person or thing which demands or requires costly sacrifices.
Moloch went by many names including, but not limited to, Ba'al, Moloch, Apis Bull, Golden Calf, Chemosh, as well as many other names, and was widely worshiped in the Middle East and wherever Punic culture extended (including, but not limited to, the Ammonites, Edomites and the Moabites).
In John Milton's Paradise Lost, Moloch is one of the greatest warriors of the rebel angels,
"First MOLOCH, horrid King besmear'd with blood
Of human sacrifice, and parents tears,
Though for the noyse of Drums and Timbrels loud
Their childrens cries unheard, that past through fire
To his grim Idol. Him the AMMONITE
Worshipt in RABBA and her watry Plain,
In ARGOB and in BASAN, to the stream
Of utmost ARNON. Nor content with such
Audacious neighbourhood, the wisest heart
Of SOLOMON he led by fraud to build
His Temple right against the Temple of God
On that opprobrious Hill, and made his Grove
The pleasant Vally of HINNOM, TOPHET thence
And black GEHENNA call'd, the Type of Hell."
"I answer: Yes, I do. However, you know I am not Muslim."
ok ... this is what i wanted to hear, being a muslim or not has nothing to do with the question i have in mind ...
now here is the question:
if god is capabel of everything and that he knows everthingy; Ultimate Power, so he knew exactly when i will be born, what sins i will commit, when i will die, and whether i will go hell or heaven. So whats the point of punishing me if it was already known how i will behave and where i will wind up? should i go to hell, why create something evil like me knowing that i will disobey? should i go to heaven, does god the almighty, ultimate suprem power, need people to worship him?
i am begining to feel that all humanity is just a science experiment
if you dont mind me asking, where are you from?
Pastorios, for your information the Talibans were the creation of USA to combat the bad Russians, after achieving the victory the Abondened the Talibans and left it to the Pakistanis.
Akhter,
Yes, you are correct in a vague way. The United States taught Afghani guerilla fighters how to fight against the Soviet Union after the USSR invaded Afghanistan back in the late 70's.
Some of these guerrilla fighters took the lessons and used them to form themselves into the marauding pack of wolves known as the Taliban.
Anonymous,
I am from California in America.
You asked: ... if god is capabel of everything and that he knows everthingy; Ultimate Power, so he knew exactly when i will be born, what sins i will commit, when i will die, and whether i will go hell or heaven. So whats the point of punishing me if it was already known how i will behave and where i will wind up? should i go to hell, why create something evil like me knowing that i will disobey? should i go to heaven, does god the almighty, ultimate suprem power, need people to worship him?
i am begining to feel that all humanity is just a science experiment ...
I say: Yeah, I can understand that feeling. The idea of an all-powerful, all-knowing God who demands absolute adherence to a set of laws, which we could never fully understand, does seem unfair.
It would seem like the deck is stacked against us, wouldn't it?
According to the Christian Tradition, "God Created man in His Own Image. " Those are the words used in Genesis. Christians, generally, tend to interpret this verse to mean that, like God, we are given Free Will and Creativity.
If we have Free Will, then we have the ability to choose between Good and Evil. But, of course, man "fell", when Adam and Eve ate of the "apple". We fell from Grace.
Thing is, at that point, God had a few choices,
1) he could have wiped us all out, knowing the evil we would do,
2) he could have made us automatons, or in other words, unfree things, like robots, made to follow His Will only,
3) he could choose to allow us to continue on with our own Free Will, choosing evil over good more often than not.
And, of course, that is what we do. As the Bible says, "all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God."
But God provides a means of Grace through the atoning sacrifice of His Son. People often say that Christ died for the sins of man, but I believe that it is just as true to say that Christ died for the Free Will of man.
In other words, instead of simply condemning us, or causing us to be automatons, God instead chose to give His Most Precious Love, His Son, to die for us, so that we could be cleansed of sin even though He knows we will continue to use our Free Will to choose sin every day of our lives, no matter how hard we try.
That's the way I see it. I recognize that this might not be the answer that you seek. it might not make sense to you. But, it is what I believe, and it is, in essence, what most educated Christians believe.
no it does make sense, however, still not a logically satisfying answer ... for me i mean. in Islam when this question was asked ... the answer was that there is a greater wisdom behind all creations ... far beyond mans intellectual capabilities. we should only believe in that and it was stated in the koran that man was created to worship god and develope the lands. I thought maybe christians had a better answer.
The thing is although we might have our own free will, and we decide for our selves, however, part of the ultimate supreme power is that god created this free will from the begining, knows exactly how it behaves and knows where the soul will end up. ... you have to say "god doesnt know" in order to establish judgement and the free will concept ... which is not the case
i guess we will never know the answer for sure ... i think this will remain one of the eternally unsolved questions
Anonymous,
On the topic of Free Will, I think (and this is just my personal opinion, I've actually never heard anyone discuss this before) that it is two different things to say,
1) God knows how free will behaves
and
2) God knows where it will end up
I think God knows all, but it is impossible to conceive the idea that he knows the behavior of a free individual.
To me, I would simply say that there is no answer; it is a mystery.
So, I guess you and I are in the same boat. However, I am comfortable with the mystery, and you are not.
Here's the thing, I am in my mid-forties, and though I was a Philosophy student in college, I have become more comfortable with irony, mystery, and paradox's as I have gotten older. I no longer wrack my brain over them.
I'm guessing you are in your 20's, or perhaps, early 30's.
I'm not recommending becoming comfortable necessarily. Immanuel Kant didn't write his first great Philosophical Treatise until he was 70 years old. I don't really believe he would have written what he did had he not continued to question.
On the other hand, letting things be may be natural to middle-aged people. I had a friend (now dead) who told me that in his 70's, he was more interested in questioning and was more intrigued by the dissonance of life.
I do know that I am still a restless person, and I do continue to question many things. But, that free will question, I'm pretty comfortable with it.
Now that you've got me thinking though, I do believe that I believe that there is one rock too heavy for God to life, and that is the free will of those He created.
That does not mean that he is not more Powerful. Certainly, one person can bend the Free Will of another person, if they are more powerful. God could bend my Will, but I believe He chooses not to do so, out of respect for my Free Will.
Very interesting question.
Thanks.
By the way, you might be interested in The Book of John Chapter 17. I have never heard anyone really truly discuss the implications of this chapter.
Here it is:
1Jesus spoke these things; and (A)lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, "Father, the hour has come; (B)glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You,
2even as (C)You gave Him authority over all flesh, that (D)to all whom You have given Him, (E)He may give eternal life.
3"This is eternal life, that they may know You, (F)the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom (G)You have sent.
4"(H)I glorified You on the earth, (I)having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.
5"Now, Father, (J)glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had (K)with You before the world was.
6"(L)I have manifested Your name to the men whom (M)You gave Me out of the world; they were (N)Yours and You gave them to Me, and they have (O)kept Your word.
7"Now they have come to know that everything You have given Me is from You;
8for (P)the words which You gave Me (Q)I have given to them; and they received them and truly understood that (R)I came forth from You, and they believed that (S)You sent Me.
9"(T)I ask on their behalf; (U)I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom (V)You have given Me; for (W)they are Yours;
10and (X)all things that are Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine; and I have been glorified in them.
11"I am no longer in the world; and yet (Y)they themselves are in the world, and (Z)I come to You (AA)Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name (AB)which You have given Me, that (AC)they may be one even as We are.
12"While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name (AD)which You have given Me; and I guarded them and (AE)not one of them perished but (AF)the son of perdition, so that the (AG)Scripture would be fulfilled.
The Disciples in the World
13"But now (AH)I come to You; and (AI)these things I speak in the world so that they may have My (AJ)joy made full in themselves.
14"I have given them Your word; and (AK)the world has hated them, because (AL)they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15"I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from (AM)the evil one.
16"(AN)They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17"(AO)Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.
18"As (AP)You sent Me into the world, (AQ)I also have sent them into the world.
19"For their sakes I (AR)sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be (AS)sanctified (AT)in truth.
20"I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word;
21that they may all be one; (AU)even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, (AV)so that the world may believe that (AW)You sent Me.
Their Future Glory
22"The (AX)glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;
23(AY)I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that (AZ)You sent Me, and (BA)loved them, even as You have loved Me.
24"Father, I desire that (BB)they also, whom You have given Me, (BC)be with Me where I am, so that they may see My (BD)glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before (BE)the foundation of the world.
25"O (BF)righteous Father, although (BG)the world has not known You, yet I have known You; and these have known that (BH)You sent Me;
26and (BI)I have made Your name known to them, and will make it known, so that (BJ)the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them."
Here is the passage that is particularly striking when considering the question of whether God actually knows the behavior of Free Will:
"I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word;
21that they may all be one; (AU)even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, (AV)so that the world may believe that (AW)You sent Me.
Their Future Glory
22"The (AX)glory which You have given Me I have given to them, THAT THEY MAY BE ONE JUST AS WE ARE ONE.
23(AY)I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that (AZ)You sent Me, and (BA)loved them, even as You have loved Me.
24"Father, I desire that (BB)they also, whom You have given Me, (BC)be with Me where I am, so that they may see My (BD)glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before (BE)the foundation of the world.
I am only speculating, of course, but it seems to me that what is being offered here is to be truly One with God in His Being and His Glory.
In short, I would imagine, this would mean that as long as we are unified with God, we have a Creative capacity equal to that of God, or that we will, when we are With Him in His Kingdom.
If this Power only comes from Unity with God, then I guess that means we could indeed use our creative capacity to dazzle God Himself with the world's we can create. However, our power is necessarily limited when we are not in Unity with Him.
Do you see how that applies to the question you pose about whether God knows the way Free Will behaves?
guys if you wannaknow anything about islam plz go ahead and read the quraan in your languge and plz make sure that its not a modified version .
and all i have to say to this blog is (any idiot can manipulate a part of a sentence to make it sound bad or good ) Example:
A sentence: You should kill a cow and distibute its meet for the poor to eat as a tribute for Allah
A stupid manipulation: you should kill a cow as a tribute for Allah
My point is you can never know the truth about something if you just saw a part of it you should read the whole quraan to know the truth about Islam
I really hope you ppl seek the truth insted of just following other's openions
And plz excuse my example if its too stupid i just wanted to make a point.
Peace,
I hope that one day you will find it in your heart to research islam from it primary sources: Quran and Hadith.Or even to bother and read a biography of the prophet (when the moon split of the sealed nectar). Maybe your heart will remain the same but at least then you'll have some factual information.
1. P. Muhammad (pbuh) lived in a time of abudant war and yet he never fought in a war until he was persecuted by his own people, fled, developed a muslim state (Medina) and they engaged in war with his former persecutors.
2. P. Muhammad was married in his twenties to a women in her forties (Khadija, ra) to whom he had all his children, he was married to her alone until she passed away.
3. Polygamy was already in existence before P. Muhammad, pbuh, yet he spent most of his life with Khadija until her death it was after this tha he married to women -one a widow and the other Ayesha
5. Ayesha was passed the age of puberty when their marriage was consumated, to us she may be a child but this was obviuosly not the case in their culture nor in islam. How is him consummating relation with his wife pedephilia or rape?
6. Do you know where the information about her age of marriage comes from? Her OWN words, the mention of her age is a part of a longer story where Ayeshe,ra, recalls her marriage with the prophet. She spoke highly of him and their life together she recalled this information in her sixties -so do you believe a part of her statement and not the rest?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AjB4dRz0mQ
7. Muslim are commaded to cover there entire bodies with lose clothing except their hands and face, the same way nuns dress the same way Mary the mother of Jesus dresses so why is one group exalted and modest and the other oppressed?
8. Fornication and adulterer IS punished by stoning to death. Guess how many people where stoned in the Prophet's lifetime? 2! Two people who confessed and asked to bear the punishment! Because in islam you need 4 witnesses of the actual act in order to punish the person and if someone lies on someone else tnen they themselves are punished
9. Rape? Rape is also punished by death in islam. Even a slave women cannot be forced in to having intercourse or in to marriage in islam.
10. What people, some muslims, DO is not always a reflection of islam. Rape, abuse, murder, inustice, terrorism all exist within muslim communities or countries but their perversion of islam is exactly that THEIR perversion.
11. In islam you cannot kill innocent people -women and children in war and you cannot attack a people for personal vengence. The quran speaks against trying to "take the law in your own hands"
12. Allah is the God of all, the eternal, the creator. If you ever meet an arab chritian ask them what they call God and they will say Allah, it is simply a translation.
13. Muslims do not believe in a God who begets children or a God who will allow certain people in to heaven simply because of their race so in that sense the attributions given to God by christians and Jews are no the same as the attributes of God in islam
www.guidingfriends.com
www.islamtommorow.com
www.quranexplorer.com
Allah (God) alone gives success.
Peace,
I hope that one day you will find it in your heart to research islam from it primary sources: Quran and Hadith.Or even to bother and read a biography of the prophet (when the moon split of the sealed nectar). Maybe your heart will remain the same but at least then you'll have some factual information.
1. P. Muhammad (pbuh) lived in a time of abudant war and yet he never fought in a war until he was persecuted by his own people, fled, developed a muslim state (Medina) and they engaged in war with his former persecutors.
2. P. Muhammad was married in his twenties to a women in her forties (Khadija, ra) to whom he had all his children, he was married to her alone until she passed away.
3. Polygamy was already in existence before P. Muhammad, pbuh, yet he spent most of his life with Khadija until her death it was after this tha he married to women -one a widow and the other Ayesha
5. Ayesha was passed the age of puberty when their marriage was consumated, to us she may be a child but this was obviuosly not the case in their culture nor in islam. How is him consummating relation with his wife pedephilia or rape?
6. Do you know where the information about her age of marriage comes from? Her OWN words, the mention of her age is a part of a longer story where Ayeshe,ra, recalls her marriage with the prophet. She spoke highly of him and their life together she recalled this information in her sixties -so do you believe a part of her statement and not the rest?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AjB4dRz0mQ
7. Muslim are commaded to cover there entire bodies with lose clothing except their hands and face, the same way nuns dress the same way Mary the mother of Jesus dresses so why is one group exalted and modest and the other oppressed?
8. Fornication and adulterer IS punished by stoning to death. Guess how many people where stoned in the Prophet's lifetime? 2! Two people who confessed and asked to bear the punishment! Because in islam you need 4 witnesses of the actual act in order to punish the person and if someone lies on someone else tnen they themselves are punished
9. Rape? Rape is also punished by death in islam. Even a slave women cannot be forced in to having intercourse or in to marriage in islam.
10. What people, some muslims, DO is not always a reflection of islam. Rape, abuse, murder, inustice, terrorism all exist within muslim communities or countries but their perversion of islam is exactly that THEIR perversion.
11. In islam you cannot kill innocent people -women and children in war and you cannot attack a people for personal vengence. The quran speaks against trying to "take the law in your own hands"
12. Allah is the God of all, the eternal, the creator. If you ever meet an arab chritian ask them what they call God and they will say Allah, it is simply a translation.
13. Muslims do not believe in a God who begets children or a God who will allow certain people in to heaven simply because of their race so in that sense the attributions given to God by christians and Jews are no the same as the attributes of God in islam
www.guidingfriends.com
www.islamtommorow.com
www.quranexplorer.com
Allah (God) alone gives success.
HAHAHAHAHA!!
this is probably the most dumbest thing ive read.all the links and research done is all from anti-islamic sites.it doesnt hold any proper facts at all.surprisingly,the most of you agreeing are doing it blindly.If you want truth about islam, just go and read the quran and hadiths. then only will you know how false this site is.of course if you go to an anti buddhist site you can find what you want to know about how bad the religion is.it doesnt mean its true.go to a murderer, he'l tell you his innocent.go to a liar he'll tell you he is telling the truth.
simple fact! the whole world evolves around the concept of life which you call christianity. and what do you get when the leading nations are christians?? you get wars, poverty, corruption, invasion, debt and the list goes on. now that is a fact to deal with.it is proof enough that the christian way of life fails miserably.
so my suggestion to you prejudice.stop spreading lies about other religions and see for yourself whats wrong with the world today and which concept of life governs the majority of this planet.
I find it amazing how u say the writer has provided proof - proof from what? the Quran wasnt mentioned neither was the hadith - the only thing mentioned was other bigot blogs he took ideas from. It should be named 20 most made up rubbish useless things - absolute crap
Oh and just to add the torah and bible condemn gay sex, sex outside marriage and adultry as an abomination and death by stoning - in fact in the 1800's a woman was stoned in the UK for being involved in sex for money - so before u jump on one religion make sure u know about them all
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GO TO THE LINKS - THERE ARE PLENTY OF CITATIONS OF THE KRAYON AND THE HADITH.
Or, were you too stupid to figure that out?
If your going to talk about islam then do proper research.
When i mean by proper research is actually reading what the quran says about peace. not what your mother tells you. Please stop being a ignorant blogger and talk about things you know not what you dont know.
Have you read the verse where it says, "Mohammed Gargles Balls, and Allah is the Greatest of all Deceivers"?
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