From the Independent:
London's only Jewish community radio station has been forced to cease broadcasting after losing a High Court libel case brought against it by the Respect MP George Galloway.
Jcom, a non-profit station which broadcast online and to a small area in north-west London, was wound up after it was told to pay the MP damages of £15,000.
Mr Galloway sued the station after one of its presenters played a spoof character based on the MP for Bethnal Green and Bow, and implied he was anti-Semitic. It was also ordered to pay Mr Galloway's court costs, thought to be £5,000. Mr Galloway said that the judgment had "categorically crushed the slur of anti-Semitism".
During a broadcast in November, a presenter who called himself "Georgie Galloway", the station's "Middle East correspondent", used the catchphrase, "kill the Jews, kill the Jews". The station immediately sacked the presenter, Richard Malach, saying he was "young and inexperienced" and had made an error of judgment while attempting to present an edgy programme.
You see, George Galloway has never actually publicly uttered the words, "Kill the Jews." However, he has clearly stated that he believes that "Zionists control the media." He also cozied up to Saddam Hussein in the years leading up to the Iraq War, and was investigated by the U.S. Congress in the Oil-for-Food scandal. This during a time when everyone knew that Saddam was paying the families of dead suicide bombers for their efforts in killing Jews.
So, let's be clear, in America, if a radio show host had a charcter who was supposed to be like Galloway utter the words, "Kill the Jews" it would be considered satire, and rightly so.
Instead, the judicial system in the UK has effectively shut down England's only Jewish radio station.
Silencing the Jews. A people who have no voice, have lost one of their major weapons in protecting themselves. Of course, there are Jews in the MSM in the UK. However, we know how leftist biased the BBC is.
31 comments:
Pastorius,
Yet another good reason to support the first amendment.
And, of course, the UK doesn't really have a first amendment.
if you're thinking it should have been seen as satire, why did the producers say at first that it wasn't anything to do with Galloway at all?
And if you're a fan of that station (which I doubt) then how come it had already failed to generate enough income for its broadcast licence?
This is propaganda and you're talking bollocks.
Faceless,
Where do you get the information that the station did not have the money to pay its license?
I didn't see that in the article.
Yes, I am aware that there are a good many Jews who are part of the BBC and other MSM outlets in the UK. However, the pro-Israel position I represent is not really represented in the MSM in the UK.
You are, of course, aware that Hamas and Fatah, the two-ruling parties of the Palestinian territories are both terrorist organizations. And, you are aware that Gaza is now Judenrein. The Palestinians insisted that all Jews leave Gaza. Why is that?
Arabs live in Israel, right?
Why is Gaza Judenrein?
Ok, got it.
You're going to call me an idiot, but you're not going to spend anytime trying to help me be better educated.
Sinn Fein et al did not serve a religion which told them to kill anyone who was not of their religion. Islam says kill gays, apostates, adulterers, and all those who stir mischief in the name of Islam, or refuse to become Muslims.
And, that law (Sharia) governs entire nation states, like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Nigeria, etc.
Did you know that?
Facless, Hamas and Hezbollah are not fighting any so-called "occupation". Hezbollah is itself, a Persian occupier of Lebanon, it is funded, trained, and commanded by Iran and is a defacto unit of its army (Call them mercenaries, call them an irregular unit, same difference). Israel left all of Lebanon almost a decade ago, so exactly what "occupation" you think the (occupier) Hezbollah is fighting is lost on me.
Hamas rules Gaza, an area that has never belonged to any Palestinian entity, state, province or otherwise. They rule an area that is 100% JEW FREE. Yet still, they launch 5000 rockets at Israel... Exactly WHAT OCCUPATION ARE THEY FIGHTING?!
As for the Radio Station, I wish they hadn't closed. I believe there are enough people out there who know Galloway for the corrupt, paranoid manic he is - we would have all been MORE THAN HAPPY TO DONATE in effort to KEEP THE STATION AFLOAT! This is prime Blogosphere territory. It's not a great sum and its a worthwhile sum. Pastorious et. al., you know where to find me (wingless.aoriginality.com) - I don't have the following you do but I'm willing to help in any way possible.
Wingless
Damn right I'm not going to help you pastorius. I didn't call you an idiot, I asked if you were being deliberately idiotic - because that's the only logical reason for you to spout such an uninformed opinion.
Do you still believe that all Jewish people are right wing? Or have you endeavoured to ensure that you don't come across as a blinkered fool in future?
Your questions about Hamas and Hizbollsh can be answered simply by comparing maps of the area from 1945 and present day.
wingless - I hope your campaign to raise money goes well... I hear Galloway's running out of Cuban cigars.
haha
Your questions about Hamas and Hizbollsh can be answered simply by comparing maps of the area from 1945 and present day.
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Really? Care to elaborate on exactly what it is you mean?
No country called Palestine existed in 1945 (or ever), Lebanon did not hold the Shebba Farms in 1945 (or ever)...
Please, enlighten us.
As for Galloway, this is a guy who calls the police on anyone he can't scare with his yelling and screaming. He had a reporter escorted out of his office, telling the authorities he was a Zionist agent who had infiltrated security. The guy is a bloody ham, afraid to debate, afraid to answer questions - I ask - if truth is on your side, why are so damn fearful?
it's not for me to enlighten you, but it's good that you at least realise you need it.
The reporter he had removed had got in there under false pretences. The journalist wasn't honourable in his behaviour, so why should he be shown any respect in return?
I'd have kicked his arse if it had been me.
The reporter he had removed had got in there under false pretences. The journalist wasn't honourable in his behaviour, so why should he be shown any respect in return?
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Because he asked him a bl00dy question? Because he answered to Galloways nonsensical rants that he was an 'agent'? He went in for an interview, presented his credentials accurately, Galloway decided because his current assignment was in Jerusalem and because he was not going to stand there and be bullied he better call in reinforcements... Classic cowardice.
They yell and they scream, they hold their chest out, they swagger but when it comes down to it, when they come across an advesary with half a brain they cower.
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I'd have kicked his arse if it had been me.
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Like I said, They yell and they scream, they hold their chest out, they swagger but when it comes down to it, when they come across an advesary with half a brain they cower...
Big Big man that you are...
BTW: Do enlighten us however, exactly what maps are you talking about and what happened in 1945? (45?!)
Yes, I am a big man - and if you came to my office with a pre-agreed intention and then tried to ambush me with another I'd kick your arse out the door, or perhaps call the police if I was feeling generous. Wouldn't you do the same? Wouldn't any man who stands on his own two feet?
But what if you weren't strong enough, or couldn't rely on the police - what would you do? Let them stay and build up an externally funded defence mechanism while depriving the others on the premises from resources?
Faceless,
I don't think all Jews are right wing. I think a disproportionate number of them are actually left-wing.
And, I don't think that serves them well.
By the way, they don't much care about my opinion, because I'm not Jewish.
Your refusal to back up any statements with any facts makes me believe you are either useless (instead of faceless), or that you have some hidden agenda.
How did you find us? And, why are you wasting your time here?
"Silencing the Jews. A people who have no voice, have lost one of their major weapons in protecting themselves. Of course, there are Jews in the MSM in the UK. However, we know how leftist biased the BBC is."
as I said earlier, the direct implication of that statement is that Jewish people are right wing.
And why wouldn't it serve them well to be seen as valid socially rather than as more exclusive? Why do you think they should be right-wing?
I'm here because it's the internet and you're posting bollocks.
Would you rather I just let your circle-jerk continue in impotent peace? You'll need to accept that you were wrong for that to happen - or block me for daring to challenge your ill-considered crap.
I won't block you for this. You're making a reasonable point. The only problem I have with you is when I present you with evidence for my opinion, you tell me it's "bollocks" and then do not present counter-evidence.
In the case of the idea that there are left-wing Jews, well, I would say that is a self-evident point, so you are correct.
There are left-wing Jews. In fact, the preponderence of Jews are left-wing.
My point in saying that the Jewish voice is being silenced is this; I see Israel as having been created after WWII, because it had been proven that without a homeland, the Jews would have nowhere to go, if Europe, or anyone else around the world, decided to enact another Holocaust.
So, the only Jews I know who unequivocally support Israel's right to exist are right-wing Jews.
Here's how I define the idea of unequivocally supporting Israel's right to exist:
1) clearly opposing groups whose charters call for the destruction of Israel as being illegitimate terorist organizations. (Hamas Charter, for instance, clearly calls for "Jews" to be killed en masse, and says that Muslims will work until the end of days to make sure that "the Zionist entity" is completely destroyed.)
2) oppose the "right of return" of all people claiming to be pre-48Palestinians.
Let me be clear, I have no qualms with those Palestinians moving into Gaza, or the West Bank, but I do not believe they ought to be allowed into Israel, as they would demographically overwhelm the Jewish state (safe haven), and that would mean the elimination of Israel.
Remember, I made the point that Hamas has ensured that Gaza is Jew-free. Why do you think they did that? It's because they hate Jews, and do not want any Jews to live among them.
Are you ok with that, Faceless? Do you think Hamas has a good rule there in eliminating all Jews from Gaza?
That post was a perfect example of why I'm not answering questions directly - you seem closed to the idea that Israel is the aggressor and all actions against it are a natural result of that.
Zionists are cuckoos - and I don't necessarily mean they're mental.
Are you from the BNP, faceless?
oh please - you really have a lot to learn if you think that.
I am not affiliated to any party or philosophy other than, and I hate to sound trite, 'truth'.
Faceless,
A Zionist is a person who believes that the Jews should have a homeland. What is wrong with that?
Currently, a Zionist is a person who thinks that Palestinians should be oppressed in order to achieve their aim. What's wrong with that apart from everything?
I could post quotes from various Israeli presidents that prove the point, but you'd benefit more by finding them yourself...
All the best, that's my time up here.
Faceless could post quotes from Presidents, but he doesn't feel like it.
He gives no specifics. He gives no citations of articles.
He only tells me I'm talking bollocks.
As I said before, for me, Faceless is Useless.
And, also, let's be clear about one other thing; having put the question of whether Faceless is ok with Hamas' Jew-hatred/eterminationism three or four times, Faceless never chose to answer.
There is no major party in Israel whose charter calls for death to Palestinians. The fact is, Hamas' Charter explicitly calls for death to Jews.
The people of Gaza voted, in a free democratic election to have Hamas be their government. Even Germany never gave the Nazis 50% of the vote.
Here's a link to the Hamas Charter for the record:
http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm
Faceless your points are unfortunately HISTORICALLY and FACTUALLY in error.
Since THE Abu Musa riots of 1919 every single arab leader has made it plain that only rejection would be the answer to the jews, and as Nasser said, MANY TIMES, all wars would be wars of annihilation.
That the result of those wars did not result in another genocide and instead found the jews, who can afford to lose NO WAR, looking down on Monty Pythons' Knight at the bridge is not only not their fault, it is the inevitable result of their refusal to be either dhimmi or dead.
Moreover, VOLUNTARY WITHDRAWAL from the entirety of Gaza (hardly the act of an aggressor) has resulted in Israel proper being rocketed by 5000 missiles.
Ever wonder what GB would do if Scotland pummeled York with 5000 missiles in a year or two since the 'imperial, aggressor state of Britain' had not yet given them their freedom yearned for since ~1270 AD?
So sorry, but 6,000,000 jews surrounded by 250,000,000 + arabs, and 70 million Persian whose govts have for GENERATIONS spoken only of killing the jews and drriving them into the sea hardly are VICTIMS. And the lack of a 'palestinian state' from 1948-1967 gives the lie to all this anyway.
I have all the url's, but since your points are 'idiotic' I guess I'll withhold them as you did.
Farcical debating!
Epa,
What do you think, is Faceless BNP, or is he a college professor?
;-)
Follow his profile...he has a George Galloway page on his site.
That makes him a fool no matter what else.
Galloway is simply a pro snake oil salesman. nothing more or less.
His bigotry is as manufactured as is his love affair with the arabs.
A kindness for faceless:
HERE
just for starters
Epa,
Thanks for pointing that out. Then Faceless is not BNP. He's just a leftie.
I remember most of my lefty friends thought Israel had purposefully murdered thousands of innocents in Jenin and buried them in mass graves.
After all, CNN said it was true.
Of course, that was proven to be a lie, none of my lefty friends apologized.
And here I thought I was all alone...
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Currently, a Zionist is a person who thinks that Palestinians should be oppressed in order to achieve their aim. What's wrong with that apart from everything?
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Maybe faceless IS Galloway... Then again, he didn't accuse any of us of being Zionist agents...
Palestinians OPPRESSED? The Israeli Arabs are the healthiest, and free-ist Arabs in the Mid-East. The greatest tragedy of the MidEast is that the for a Muslim to vote, run for office, sit in parliament of rule over a fair court - HE NEEDS TO BE A CITIZEN OF THE JEWISH STATE!
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I could post quotes from various Israeli presidents that prove the point, but you'd benefit more by finding them yourself...
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Thank-you for looking out for us... Really thoughtful.
Even if you could find an obscure quote or two, the proof would be in whether or not those words were acted upon.
If it's just words you are looking for then heck, I could match your quotes 5 to 1 (probably 50-1 if I didn't work 10 hours a day!) with much more direct statements of genocide and hatred against Jews.
Zionists are cuckoos - and I don't necessarily mean they're mental.
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Wow, you are a master debator.
YOU OWN IT!
You've answered our questions, and with sheer linguistic genius and mastery of history you have won the argument.
I hereby renounce my support for Israel, don my green coveralls and enlist in Hamas (much better than Fatah, Hamas offers 72 virgins & a maid, Fatah offers a 20 minute discussion with Yasser Arafat...The choice was easy).
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btw: Pastorious, DO YOU WORK? How do you find time to post so much? I can barely find time to post 1 item a day (and I'm in Canada, you know we have 28 hours per day, eh?)
Wingless,
Yes, I do work. My job involves my spending a tremendous amount of time on the phone talking to clients which means that I spend a lot of time listening to phones ringing, and waiting for people to come on the line.
During that time, I surf the web, read stories, and answers emails and comments.
I find that, for me, I am more effective in life when I multi-task, because if I do only one thing at a time, I think too much and I worry.
So, in a way, this is therapy.
:)
That must sound really funny.
I find that, for me, I am more effective in life when I multi-task, because if I do only one thing at a time, I think too much and I worry.
So, in a way, this is therapy.
:)
That must sound really funny.
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Nah, it sounds like the workaholics anthem (aLL rISE...).
Now I understand...
ThanX... :-)
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