Sunday, November 16, 2008

What Is Obama's Plan For A Civilian National Security Force, Just As Powerful, Just As Strong, Just As Well-Funded As The American Military?

"IT WILL BE A


COMMON EXPERIENCE


AND THAT'S ALL


YOU HAVE


TO THINK ABOUT"






From Pat Dollard's website:


I GUESS SOME JEWS LEARNED THE LESSONS OF THE HOLOCAUST BETTER THAN OTHERS. Emanuel, apparently, learned them too well.

Pat’s right … This son of a bitch is to be feared. The only way for Obama to counter the military in a coup against the Constitution, is for Obama to have a private army with tentacles deep into every local community.

Now we know this was no casual idea. When we first saw the tape of Obama insisting on a National Police for, we thought, “Whatever…cops, something vague about national police, but then we watched again and very, very alarming things jumped. Things which would only not be alarming to a person with a mental capacity significantly below that of the average adult.

This National Police Force of Obama’s would have to be as well-funded and powerful, his own words, as the current military is. You know, the one whose primary loyalty was to America, not Obama?

And now we find this bombshell.

Now we know this was no casual idea floated once during the campaign.

Listen to the detail down to which he and Emanuel have thought this through. And listen the reporter having dinner with Rahm sound so incredulous to this planned Police State, and Rahm try to so oily pass it off as if it were a benign occurence, despite it’s obvious Orwellian enormity.

Just listen as the reporter feels the inherent evil at his marrow, and how he almost can’t believe what he is hearing, but trying to remain cool and not insult Emanuel by calling him an obvious Nazi.

Domestic civil conscription. And guess what? Those forced in will be sent to 90 day indoctrination and training camps.

Being locally based they will know who in the hood has guns, and who does or doesn’t like Obama. You will literally wake up and find that your neighbor is part of an invading army. But you will already be surrounded. Because they live with you.

In a 2006 interview with Ben Smith of the NY Daily News, Rahm Emanuel, who will be Barack Obama’s White House chief of staff, laughed, s if to say, “Ahhh, don’t worry man, trust me.”, at a reporter’s concerns about how far-reaching Obama’s mandatory Armed Civil-Service plan would be.

Pat’s take and more, on Emanuel

Before you listen to the vid with the audio of the Chicago plot, first watch this tape, the first piece of public evidence to surface during the campaign, of Obama’s plans for his de facto private army, his Gestapo.

Listen carefully to the shocking words, over and over. “We can no longer rely on the military for our national security…a civilian force that is just as strong, just as powerful”

And this would be a localized force, your neighbors who already know you, what you think politically, and if you have guns and where you keep them.

Listen to these words.

They precisely describe what would be needed to succesfully launch a coup that the military couldn’t stop, and the force that would be needed to neutralize any domestic insurgency against the new Regime, and ensure it’s iron-fisted control of the nation.

Bit by bit, all the pieces are coming together.

The plan was to take over not by revolution, but through the system itself. Institutionalize enough voter fraud to ensure electoral success, establish economic and other crises in order to stage a sort of systemic coup (think Emanuel, Frank and Obama ever discussed how much damage garbage loans handed out by Freddie and Fannie could do to the country. And, oh, coincidence of coincidences, the only business ACORN was in other than creating fake votes, was pressuring banks into writing bad mortgage loans. Who was Acorn’s star personnell trainer? Barack Hussein Obama. Just click on that “all the pieces” link.), and execute the coup and sustain it’s control through a new, separately established military to counter the existing one.

Crazy? It’s all here. In their own words. This has been in the works for years, it seems clear, and which makes sense. You don’t come into this much power so simply without a lot of work and time behind it. And you don’t come into power with nothing but a band of revolutionaries as friends, by sheer coincidence. You come into power with nothing but a band of revolutionaries as friends because of them: you and your friends are determined to see a revolution through to its success, and have been working together for years to get to this point.

Could this all be wrong? Of course.

But why is it, day after day, the notion is further affirmed by some piece of new evidence, not disaffirmed?

Remember that sick to your stomach feeling you got at seeing the vids of the Obama Youth? The sick to your stomach feeling you got when you saw the “Obama calls for a Gestapo” vid? How it only got worse when you played it again and really listened? You didn’t feel that way for no reason. Your instincts were indeed telling you something, and reminding you of something.

And as one Georgia congressman just said, this is exactly what Hitler and the Soviets did.











And, remember what Joe Biden said:

"Mark my words," Biden was quoted as saying. “It will be not six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember, I said it standing here, if you don't remember anything else I said: Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis ...

"He's gonna need help,” Biden said about Obama. “And the kind of help he's gonna need is…we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why I said, in comments a couple threads down, we can't afford to waste our time evangelizing those who are still sleeping. They have to at least be awake to even hear this.

What "national security objectives"? What "civil defense"? This plan has been crafted by those who either refuse to recognize that there is a danger to the national security of this country or who have made themselves a willing part of it.

Pastorius said...

RRA,
Pat Dollard's speculation here is that Obama is plotting a coup against the American Military.

Do you think this is a possibility?

WC said...

Pasto

Sophisticated weapons against a bunch of civilians with sticks and stones (no gun ownership allowed) I doubt it.

What would the ideologues use as weapons?

SamenoKami said...

WC....(no gun ownership allowed) I doubt it.
What would the ideologues use as weapons?
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There is a point which some in the US will not go past. Total gun confiscation is that point. A lot of people still know history and know that something evil always follows guns being confiscated. 3-10% of gun owners (maybe more) will NOT give up w/o a fight.
Better to die on your feet than live on your knees, is a comment you hear around some of those types.
Do you think that all the people who just bought tons of guns and ammo since 5Nov. are going to let that stuff go? Do you give up the $1500 AR-15? I don't think so.
We'll see.

Anonymous said...

Pasto

Well, there goes any hope I had for a good night's sleep. There are some concepts that simply do not leap to mind naturally until someone points out that they are conceivable, and this is one of them. On the surface it seems like an impossibility for the reasons WC just stated. What possible effect could some homey-army cooked up by the Obaminions have on the US military?

I come from a "military" family in that my dad was career, and my first instinct is "no way". But Obama is going to be Commander-In-Chief, and I just don't know enough about the protocols of how the military deals with a CiC who takes it to this level. The military has its own way of dealing with those who demonstrate themselves to be dangerous loose cannons. However, this does not normally extend to the CiC.

Plus, as we saw in the Islam/England/Couglin dustup, there has been infiltration at some disturbingly high levels. Nor is the problem confined to overt Islamists. There are those at high sensitive intelligence levels whose idea of what is good for this country has little or nothing to do with ours. I know at least one of them and where he is, and I don't know how many more of him and of Gordon England there are out there.

Another concern is the upcoming "testing" event. No one is being specific yet, but it is worth remembering that our military forces in the Middle East are now within range of Iranian missles. Unthinkable? I'm trying not to think about it, but you tell me what the response would be to massive US military casualties from such an attack.

Why would Obama make the statement that we need a Civilian National Security Force "just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the US military? To enforce exactly what national security goals? That is the sort of hyperbole guaranteed to go right over people's heads because it can't possibly mean what it sounds like it means. So why make a statement like that? Unless Obama and his backers are looking forward to a crisis for which such a force will be "needed"?

Pastorius said...

RRA,
Sorry if I have ruined your sleep for you.

You say: Why would Obama make the statement that we need a Civilian National Security Force "just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the US military? To enforce exactly what national security goals? That is the sort of hyperbole guaranteed to go right over people's heads because it can't possibly mean what it sounds like it means.

I say: Well put. It does sound like hyperbole. I keep telling myself I'm nuts on this. But, it just keeps sticking in my mind, along with that Rahm Emanuel quote,

"It will be a common experience, and that all you have to think about."

Wow. Isn't that totalitarianism summed up right there in a nice statement which sounds just a tad concerned for you?

Anonymous said...

I was just reading some of Victor Davis Hanson's remarks that Pam has posted over at Atlas. I have a great deal of admiration for VDH, but it seems to me that in his analysis he is leaving out the element of the Absolute Elsewhere. The AE is the non-rational dimension inhabited by people like committed Nazis and Islamists. Whether it is inhabited by the likes of Obama and Co. is what we are about to find out. VDH seems to be willing to proceed on the assumption that Obama wants what's best for the country and merely holds a mistakenly pacifist worldview. I would be getting a much better night's sleep lately if I could believe that.

The usual rules that govern what makes sense do not apply in the Absolute Elsewhere. Yes, if you take away $147 a barrel Putin and Ahmadinejad and Chavez are demoted to the punk level, but who says it's going to stay at $65 a barrel? How did it get to $147 in the first place? That private sheik in Anbar sounds like he has way too much common sense to want any part of the AE, thanks very much. He has seen what kind of hell people living in the AE make out of his neighborhood. That tends to be the course of the learning process because normal, sane people can rarely foresee what life controlled by AE people is going to be like until they actually experience it.

Anonymous said...

Pasto

Standing on the beach when the Asian tsunami rolled in was a common experience too. Doesn't mean anyone would care to repeat it. For me, the sort of common experience Obama and Rahm (and how does anyone manage to achieve moral corruption on his level?) are offering would include all the joys of initiation into a cult full of people who are going to turn around and kill you if you step outside the "common experience" and chill their Oneness.

If Obama and Rahm do attempt to make this nightmare scenario real, my advice is to avoid participation in it at all costs. Keep your family, your children, anyone else you can away from it. I don't care what you have to come up with as an excuse but DO NOT CO-OPERATE. Especially if it really does involve something like 90 day indoctrination camps, because once you are isolated from your normal surroundings and they are in control of your diet, sleep patterns, level of exercise, and your psychological and emotional triggers, it will take a superhuman effort to resist and make it out of there with your head on straight. Especially if they have their hooks in someone you care about. Take that from one who knows.

midnight rider said...

80,000,000 citizens will not quietly give up their guns. You are right they know exactly what a gun grab would portend. That said. . .
Wouldn't this civilian security force, by definition "as strong as the military", be armed? And what would that lead to? Civilian against civilian. neighbor against neighbor, brother against brother? We've seen that before for very different reasons.
And the military. What if the plan is not a coup but to use them as a backup for the civilian force in places of extreme unrest? Or declare martial law in the face of this "testing"? Posse comitatus aside, would our military leaders follow those orders, act as law enforecment on American soil? What about the troops themselves. I think all of us aware of this will be having many sleepless nights.

Anonymous said...

“And the kind of help he\'s gonna need is…we\'re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it´s not gonna be apparent initially, it\'s not gonna be apparent that we\'re right.\"

Tsk-tsk!

Anonymous said...

Before the weapons are taken away from the citizens, citizens demand explanations about all the weapons that have been sold and to whom they have been sold.

Anonymous said...

Before the weapons are taken away from the citizens, citizens can demand explanations about all the weapons that have been sold and to whom they have been sold.

Epaminondas said...

The rather 'inconvienient' constitution will 'constrain' him.

If that does not, if the courts do not, if impeachment will not, either the govt fears the people, or the reverse, and that is true no matter WHO is president

I believe the consent of the governed would be lost along that process.

Consequences would be dire.

FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

Pastorius said...

Epa, RRA, and Midnight Rider,
You are all saying different versions of the same thing; the citizenry will not stand for it.

I agree.

Many will, but a huge number will not.

By the way, I don't think a majority of citizens were for the American Revolution when it began.