Wednesday, November 04, 2009

Election Shows Moderate Democratic Voters Fleeing From Obama

Obama's Big Win of the Night: Voters Repeal Maine's Gay-Marriage Law, Outlawing It Once Again

From Ace

"Obama is against Same-Sex Marriage, so he might get a win in Maine!" -- justkarl, on Twitter

And so he has.



Click on the title above to go over to Ace of Spades and read the whole thing.

Just for the record, as we are a group blog dedicated to fighting the Jihad, we have no official position on Gay Marriage. However, Epaminondas and I are probably the most prolific writers here (if you go through the history of the blog), and here is our exchange on the issue yesterday:

Epaminondas: ... And now this 'right wing fringe gun nut whacko' is going to vote to preserve some people's right to marry any goddamn other consenting adult they please.
And that is America.

Pastorius said...
I say: Yep.
Thing is, I think children need both a father and a mother, and I am concerned about the idea that two mothers or two fathers are just as good (in general) as a father and a mother. I don't believe it to be true (once again, in general).

However, I recognize which way the wind blows, and it blows thus.

The reality is America was built so that people could do whatever they wanted with as little government interference as possible.



Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:44:00 PM
Blogger Epaminondas said...
I also believe mommy and daddy work best. But that doesn't mean only. I am nervous about alt lifestyles being ACCEPTED might mean to some people it should be taught about in school to young children ..a RED LINE FOR ME, but that is not the same thing as two adults getting married.

Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:32:00 PM
Blogger Pastorius said...
Yeah, Epa. I agree. But, it's a thorny issue.
If they are married, does that mean they have equal adoption rights?

One would think so, right? I mean one follows from the other.

This is why I have favored Civil Unions as the solution. But, the problem is, if believing Jews and Christians don't back Civil Unions (and let's face it, they don't), then they cede the issue to anything-goes Liberals.

The issue is just about settled. And, it will not turn out well for children, because, primarily, believing Christians have insisted that being gay is a sin.

I believe one is born gay, bi, or whatever the hell one is - in almost all cases. Why would a man choose to be gay? That's ridiculous.

Anyway, the stubborn Christian Church has buried themselves on this, imho.

It's funny, Christians will acknowledge that a person can be born hermaphrodite. But, they can't acknowledge someone can be born gay?

Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:36:00 PM
Blogger Pastorius said...
Ill-logic always results in Chaos. And, the Christian Church has invited this Chaos on society through their stubborness.


Epaminondas and I are, clearly, a couple of gun/Bible-clinging, knuckle-dragging Conservatives, aren't we?

Conservatives who are to the Left of our President on the issue of Gay Marriage.

More from Drudge this morning:

UH O

REPUBLICAN TAKES VA BY 18%...
REPUBLICAN TAKES NJ BY 5%...
Dem Wins New York House Race...
ABCNEWS: Vast Economic Discontent Spells Trouble for Dems in 2010...
White House: Obama 'not watching returns'...
Michelle Takes First Tweens to Miley Cyrus Concert...


Miley Cyrus fiddles while Obama's empire burns.

6 comments:

Epaminondas said...

Maybe you and I are genetically screwed up, pasto

Pastorius said...

Screwed up enough to have actual rational and nuanced interior dialogue.

I think they call that Schizophrenia.

Epaminondas said...

Being made to feel like Hamlet makes me want to punch someone immediately

Pastorius said...

Well then, I'm glad you're in Maine and I'm in California.

;-)

Pastorius said...

Care to offer a soliloquy instead of a punch?

Damien said...

Pastorius,

It seems that when it comes to the voters Obama is really starting to turn just about everyone off, other than radical leftists