Sunday, March 28, 2010

Why does Obama get along so poorly with Netanyahu?

Because Netahyahu says horrible things likes this which are hard to refuteder erwige juden  w260.jpg:


"Throughout history the slanders against the Jewish people always preceded the physical assaults and were used to justify these assaults."


Obama's reaction to Bibi's refusal to make Jerusalem other than what it is?


Leaks of an admin policy of softening sanctions on Iran


Is anyone ELSE wondering what Israel's ultimate reaction might be to using their existence as a negotiating coin in some perceptually larger game?


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9 comments:

Pastorius said...

I like Bibi's reaction, but frankly, the reaction of American Jews is generally to ask, politely, what time the trains arrive.

Epaminondas said...

That would be a GOOD reaction.

Where I am, too many blame Netanyahu OUTRIGHT.

Maybe they will feel differently when mainstream politicians utter the slanders and their kids come home from college and high school AFRAID

jeppo said...

"..the reaction of American Jews is generally to ask, politely, what time the trains arrive."

Pretty much. Check out this new poll showing voting intention by race, religion, income, education, etc. Jews support the Democrats by a 68%-17% margin, or 80%-20% if the uncommitted are excluded. So despite Obama's blatant anti-Israel tilt, Jews still support his party by the same lopsided margin that they did in the 2008 election.

So now American politics is, predictably enough, breaking up into ever more rigid racial and religious blocs. On one side white Christians overwhelmingly support the GOP, and on the other non-whites and non-Christians even more overwhelmingly support the Dems.

The iron grip that the Dems have on black, Hispanic, Asian, Jewish and Muslim voters looks pretty well unbreakable at this point. And with the rapidly declining white percentage of the population, the Republicans are going to have to win an ever greater share of the white vote just to stay competitive.

One wonders just what Obama would have to do to piss off Jewish voters enough so they would start voting Republican. Maybe if he nuked Israel his share of the Jewish vote might fall to, say, 60%. Otherwise the Dems will continue to take virtually universal Jewish support for granted as part of their hate-whitey coalition.

Epaminondas said...

Jeppo, he's doing it. It's going to take an incident of some kind kind for Jews to understand to their souls that what FDR bought about is dead.

Pastorius said...

What did FDR bring about that the Jewish community in the U.S. wanted, or needed?

Jewish people are the last people who need welfare, as far as I know.

Pastorius said...

Just for the sake of clarity, I do not mean to say that I believe all Jewish people are wealthy. Instead, what I mean to intimate is that Jewish people are, from what I know, among the most self-reliant people, and not given to taking handouts from the government.

So, why is it that the Jewish community would like FDR? It doesn't make sense to me.

Pastorius said...

Another question, what is the fundamental difference between government-provided "social security" and government-provided healthcare?

Epaminondas said...

Detailed discussions with grandpa Cxxxx revealed that FDR was seen UNIVERSALLY as a friend to the millions of jewish 1st generation immigrants in the working class whereas the republicans did nothing. FDR was perceived to put these immigrants in a position to help themselves not as giver of welfare..and more as one who in foreign affairs took no shit from the nazis, and engaged ALWAYS to surreptitiously help the allies he made the dem party the party for the jews..

THEN

Pastorius said...

Ok, gotcha.

That makes sense.