Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Lutheran Parish Collects Donations To Help Muslims Build Mosque

Christians Believe "Turning the Other Cheek" 
Means Spreading Both Ass Cheeks 
To Help Their Rapist Stick It In

From Vlad Tepes, via RGA:
Hartmut Demski confessed that a few years ago, the thought would not have come to him. However, at the annual reception by the protestant (Lutherian) parish, the superintendent asked the 140 invited guests to donate towards a muslim “house of god”, the one of the Ditib community who planned to build a mosque in Stachelhausen. “Islam has long since arrived in Remscheid”, the lutherian cleric said. 
“We should not hide people who want to pray in the backyards”. The theme of the evening, chosen by the parish for the eve of the Reformation day, is fitting, it is Tolerance and is approached from a muslim as from a Christian position. 
Prof. Dr. Mouhanad Khorchide, born in Lebanon, is an islam scientist (sic) at the university of Münster and does no longer wish to accept the overused word of tolerance in the sense of accepting/putting up with. 
“It’s a question of reciprocal recognition and to accept the other as enrichment”, he declared. Prophet mohamed did not want anything else when he, unwelcome, founded a new religion. “It’s not about what is in the birth certificate”, said Khorchide. “It’s about to let the intention of god become reality: Love and compassion”. 
Both were missing for a long time from the side of muslims and Christians. Catholics and Protestants too had to go through a “painful learning process”, the second speaker of the evening declared, Tolerance can only function under the “Dictatorship of Relativism” said Professor Dr. Martin Ohst is church historian and teaches at the University of Wuppertal. 
“The reformation has taught tolerance to society”, he declared. “People must learn to live together constructively”. 
The historian had no doubt that this could only be achieved with what Pope Benedikt called “Dictatorship of Relativism”
Professor Ohst formulated it so: “Who regards his own faith, without any skepticism as the only true one, will not achieve a real respect for the faith of others”.
That's quite a phrase the Church Historian uses: "THE DICTATORSHIP OF RELATIVISM".

And he uses it with no irony, no sarcasm, no critical thinking.

Pope Benedict coined the phrase, "Dictatorship of Relativism" as a sort of diagnosis of the disease from which our generation suffers:


We are building a dictatorship of relativism", you declared in your homily at the opening of the conclave [in 2005], "that does not recognize anything as definitive and whose ultimate standard consists solely of one's own ego and desires."
That is why we must have the courage to dare to say: Yes, man must seek the truth; he is capable of truth. It goes without saying that truth requires criteria for verification and falsification. It must always be accompanied by tolerance, also. But then truth also points out to us those constant values which have made mankind great. That is why the humility to recognize the truth and to accept it as a standard has to be relearned and practiced again.
The truth comes to rule, not through violence, but rather through its own power; this is the central theme of John's Gospel: When brought before Pilate, Jesus professes that he himself is The Truth and the witness to the truth. He does not defend the truth with legions but rather makes it visible through his Passion and thereby also implements it.

In a world that has become relativistic, a new paganism has gained more and more dominion over people's thoughts and actions. It has long since become clear not only that there is a blank space, a vacuum, alongside the Church, but also that something like an anti-church has been established. The Pope in Rome, one German newspaper wrote, should be condemned for the sole reason that by his positions he has "transgressed against the religion" that today "is valid in this country", namely, the "civil religion". Has a new Kulturkampf started here, as Marcello Pera has analyzed it? The former president of the Italian Senate speaks about a "large-scale battle of secularism against Christianity".
A new intolerance is spreading, that is quite obvious. There are well-established standards of thinking that are supposed to be imposed on everyone. These are then announced in terms of so-called "negative tolerance". For instance, when people say that for the sake of negative tolerance [i.e. "not offending anyone"] there must be no crucifix in public buildings. With that we are basically experiencing the abolition of tolerance, for it means, after all, that religion, that the Christian faith is no longer allowed to express itself visibly.

7 comments:

christian soldier said...

Wait a minute- are we all thinking along the same lines!!

Story- Two Lutheran churches merge- the stupid bad business "leaders" decided to sell the better property to muslims-a few of us women -
who know what islam is all about- offered other options -
we got 'eye rolls' -
Now there is a mosque that looks awfully like a mini WTC-
I have - since left that church --
and study the Bible by myself --
Stupidity and Blindness reigns..
Carol-CS

Epaminondas said...

File under: potentially misplaced western ideals and conscience

Did anyone ask about the imam, do any research, who will be on the board?

HERE

" DİTİB was one of the initiators of the mass-event "Gemeinsam für Frieden und gegen Terror" (en: "Together for Peace and against Terror"). Over 20,000 Muslims participated in this demonstration, which was held on November 21, 2004 in Cologne. The goal was to signal the disapproval of the use of violence in the name of Islam. It was one of the largest demonstrations of its kind in the history of Germany"

Like to see 20K americans who happen to be muslim demonstrating against terrorism here.

Anonymous said...

My problem is not just what the position of the imam might be (I wouldn't trust those bastards even if they walked around with a halo on their heads).

My whole gripe with the so called Christians is their hypocrisy. They aren't just themselves turning the other cheek but they are forcibly turning the cheeks of Christian men, women and children who are mercilessly being killed and persecuted in Muslim lands.

If things were up to me, I would ban construction of new mosques until Muslim governments promised to stop persecution of Christians and Jews and protect them just like they would protect Muslims.

This is shameful. Christians of today are hypocrites who are all but happy to see their brethren get killed in Muslim lands because hey, at least it doesn't affect them one bit, besides Jesus said "turn the other cheek".

I say f*** this humility and f*** this hypocrisy. What did the Jews get for turning the other cheek? I know Europeans have already forgotten what happened during WWII so that question really has no meaning for them.

Whatever, I am going to keep saying the same thing over and over so I'll just say what I said before and end it: F***in a**holes!

Nicoenarg

Anonymous said...

Yes, we Christians today leave a lot to be desired. When was it otherwise?

As I understand it Jesus' instruction to "turn the other cheek" was a caution against escalating a trivial insult as people are wont to do. He did not intend to call his followers to pacifism.


Anonymous said...

I'm Christian myself. And no one expects perfection from people but actions like this church's where, to use Pasto's words, they are "Spreading Both Ass Cheeks
To Help Their Rapist Stick It In" and making the whole congregation follow them in this folly amount to the last straw for me.

Whatever Jesus's words actually meant at the time or do in our time they definitely didn't mean that Christians should take it upon themselves to not only do nothing but encourage a murderous creed because of which innocent Christians around the world die.

Everyone loves to read "turn the other cheek" but people either forget or refuse to consider that Jesus stood between the adulterous woman and those who would stone her at great personal risk.

But yes, I know that it is easier to just turn the other cheek when it is someone is the one getting stoned, so to speak. Christians in the West have bigger concerns like forcing secular governments to stop gay marriage or some sh*t like that. Muslims killing Christians? Meh, that can wait!

Nicoenarg

Anonymous said...

"when it is someone is the one getting stoned" that makes no sense, I meant: "when it is someone else who's getting stoned"

Nicoenarg

Epaminondas said...

THere is no way that stopping of mosques could occur in the USA. But we COULD REALLY hurt hizballah from the air until the american christian in jail in Iran for PRACTICING is let go.
We can start somewhere which stands for our ideals, harms the enemy, and occurs in a dramatic and public manner.