Wednesday, May 13, 2020

Intimations of Fascism In America









Recent Peer reviewed Face Mask Study reveals no substantial effect on transmission of influenza by either infected or unifected persons wearing face mask:

Non pharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings - Personal Protective and Environmental Measures


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1/ Incredible. Twitter said at the end of this@AP article it has removed claims that “face masks do not curb the virus’ spread for several weeks.” Guess I’m about to get in trouble then...
2/ Because here is an article PUBLISHED IN A@CDCgov journal (it’s dated May 2020 but was released Feb. 6) that reviews trials of masks (and handwashing) against influenza AND FINDS THEM USELESS. (More screenshots below.) https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26
3/ So I guess Twitter better start banning


Addendum: The great part about that paper: Since Emerging Infectious Diseases is a peer-reviewed journal, and the paper was published on Feb. 6, it almost has to have been completed before the #COVID epidemic began; it has no bias, it's just scientists reviewing evidence.
@cdcgov advice...



2 months ago: "Can't open until we flatten the curve to save our healthcare system." One month ago: "Can't open until we have a vaccine." A few days ago: "Can't open until we have multiple vaccines." Today: (Essentially) Can't open until Biden wins.

For reference: transcript of the 7-minute exchange during which (a) Rand Paul laid out THE medical basis for lockdown-dissent, and (b) Fauci admitted to Rand Paul that immunity works. ********

Dr. Paul: Recovering coronavirus patients are developing immunity and it can be beneficial as donated. Studies show that the recovering COVID-19 patients from the asymptomatic to the very sick are showing significant antibody response. Studies show that SARS and MERS also are viruses induce immunity for at least two to three years. And yet the media continues to report that we have no evidence that patients who survived coronavirus have immunity. 

I think actually the truth is the opposite. We have no evidence that survivors of coronavirus don't have immunity and a great deal of evidence to suggest that they do. The question of immunity is linked down policy and that workers who have gained immunity can be a strong part of our economic recovery. The silver lining to so many infections in the meat processing industry is that a large portion of these workers now have immunity, those workers should be reassured that they likely won't get it again, instead of being alarmed by media reports that there is no evidence of immunity. You've stated publicly that you'd bet at all that survivors of coronavirus have some form of immunity, can you help set the record straight, that the scientific record as it is being accumulated is supportive, that infection coronavirus likely leads to some form of immunity, Dr. Fauci. 

Dr. Fauci: Thank you for the question. Yes, you're correct that I have said that given what we know about the recovery from viruses such as coronavirus to general or even any infectious disease, with very few exceptions, that when you have antibody present is very likely indicates a degree of protection. I think it's in the semantics of how this is expressed. When you say it hasn't been formally proven by long term natural history studies, which is the only way that you can prove one, is it protected which I said and most likely that it is, but also what is the degree of anybody that gives you that critical level of protection. And what is the durability. As I've often said and now again repeat, you can make a reasonable assumption that would be protective, but natural history studies of a period of months, to years, again, tell you definitively if that's the case. 

Dr. Paul: And I think that's important because, in all likelihood is a good way of putting it. The vast majority of these people have immunity, instead of saying there is no evidence. You know the WHO kind of played into this by saying “No evidence of immunity.” And in reality there's real evidence stacking up and, in fact, a lot of the different studies have shown that it is very unlikely that you get it again in the short term, with regard to going back to school and one thing that was left out of that discussion is mortality. I mean, shouldn't we at least be discussing what the mortality of children is, and this is for Dr Fauci, as well you know the mortality, between zero and 18 in New York data approaches zero, it's not gonna be absolutely zero but you're almost approaching zero between 18 and 45 and mortality in New York was 10 out of 100,000. 

So really we do need to be thinking about that. We need to observe with an open mind what went on in Sweden. They kept going to school, the mortality per capita in Sweden is actually less than France, less than Italy, less than Spain, less than Belgium, less than the Netherlands, about the same as Switzerland, but basically I don't think there's anybody arguing that what happened in Sweden is an unacceptable result. I think people are intrigued by it and we should be. 

I don't think any of us are certain when we do these models. There’s sort of been more people wrong with modeling than right. We're opening up a lot of economies around the around the US, and I hope that people who are predicting doom and gloom who say, “Oh we can't do this, there's going to be a surge,” they'll admit that they were wrong if there isn't a surge, because I think that's what's going to happen. 

In rural states, we never really reached any sort of pandemic levels in Kentucky and other states. We have less deaths in Kentucky than we have in an average flu season. It's not to say this isn't deadly, but really outside of New England we've had a relatively benign course for this virus nationwide. I think the one size fits all, that we're gonna have a national strategy and nobody's going to go to school, is kind of riridiculous. We really ought to be doing it school district by school district, and the power needs to be dispersed, because people make wrong predictions. 

And really the history of this when we look back will be wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction starting with Ferguson in England. So I think we need to have a little bit of humility in our belief that we know what's best for the economy. As much as I respect to Dr. Fauci, I don't think you're the end all, I don't think you're the one person that gets to make a decision. We can listen to your advice, but there are people on the other side saying there's not going to be a surge, that we can safely open the economy, and the facts will to bear this out. If we keep kids out of school for another year, what's going to happen is the poor and underprivileged kids who don't have a parent that’s right there to teach them at home are not going to learn for a full year. And I think we got to look at the Swedish model, and we got to look at letting our kids get back to school. It is a huge mistake if we open the schools in the fall. 

Dr. Fauci: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, can I respond to that even though there are only 32 seconds left? 

Chairman: Yes. And you might make it clear whether or not you're suggesting that we shouldn't go back to school on the fall. 

Dr. Fauci: Well, first of all, Senator Paul. And thank you for your comments. I have never made myself out to be the end all, and only voice. I'm a scientist, a physician, a public health official, I give advice, according to the best scientific evidence. There are a number of other people who come into that and give advice that are more related to the things that you spoke about: the need to get the country back open again and economically. I don't give advice about economic things. I don't give advice about anything other than public health. So I wanted to respond to that. The second thing is that you use the word we should be humble about what we don't know. And I think that falls under the fact that we don't know everything about this virus, and we've really got to be very careful, particularly when it comes to children, because the more and more we learn, we're seeing things about what this virus can do that we didn't see from the studies in China, or in Europe. For example right now. Children presenting with COVID 16, COVID-19, who actually have a very strange inflammatory syndrome, very similar to Kawasaki syndrome. I think we've got to be careful, and not be cavalier in thinking that children are completely immune to the deleterious effects. So you’re right in the numbers that children, in general, do much much better than adults and the elderly, particularly those with a like this, but I am very careful and hopefully humbled and knowing that I don't know everything about this disease. And that's why I'm very reserved and making broad predictions. Thank you. Thank you, Senator Paul and Senators.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS:

Los Angeles Likely to Extend Lockdown Order Until August After 1,569 Coronavirus Deaths – Out of 10 Million People!


AND THIS:

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jogger's lung 'bursts' after running for 2.5 miles with a face mask on https://mol.im/a/8311179 via @MailOnline

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1260372292909109248


Two boys drop dead in China while wearing masks during gym class https://trib.al/2xG8E9K
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1258035708301848576

Anonymous said...

On a hopeful note, the following archived article points out
Trump Lays Groundwork To Ban Mandatory Vaccinations Across U.S.
dated January 22, 2018
https://web.archive.org/web/20181105195501/https://newspunch.com/trump-ban-mandatory-vaccinations/

President Trump has created a new division within the Health and Human Services Office for Civil Rights, with the express purpose of banning mandatory vaccinations across the country, and ensuring citizens have a right to choose their own healthcare.

With the establishment of the Conscience and Religious Freedom Division division on Thursday, Trump has laid the groundwork to dismantle each and every vaccine mandate across the country. Big Pharma’s chokehold on the nation’s health has been released.

If you don’t think this new division at the Health and Human Services Office is a big deal, it’s time to think again.

Anonymous said...

Video Allegedly Shows That Once The Cameras Are Off Reporters Remove Their Masks And Don’t Follow Social Distancing Rules


https://www.rightjournalism.com/video-allegedly-shows-that-once-the-cameras-are-off-reporters-remove-their-masks-and-dont-follow-social-distancing-rules


https://twitter.com/Matt_Zawadzki/status/1260091180190240768

Always On Watch said...

What are we going to do about this madness???