From Ace:
I think I've had discussions w/enough Boomer-tier Trump supporters who believe the 2020 election was fraudulent to extract a general theory about their perspective. It is also the perspective of most of the people at the Capitol on 1/6, and probably even Trump himself.
Most believe some or all of the theories involving midnight ballots, voting machines, etc, but what you find when you talk to them is that, while they'll defend those positions w/info they got from Hannity or Breitbart or whatever, they're not particularly attached to them. Here are the facts - actual, confirmed facts - that shape their perspective:
1) The FBI/etc spied on the 2016 Trump campaign using evidence manufactured by the Clinton campaign. We now know that all involved knew it was fake from Day 1 (see: Brennan's July 2016 memo, etc).
These are Tea Party people. The types who give their kids a pocket Constitution for their birthday and have Founding Fathers memes in their bios. The intel community spying on a presidential campaign using fake evidence (incl forged documents) is a big deal to them.
Everyone involved lied about their involvement as long as they could. We only learned the DNC paid for the manufactured evidence because of a court order. Comey denied on TV knowing the DNC paid for it, when we have emails from a year earlier proving that he knew.
This was true with everyone, from CIA Dir Brennan & Adam Schiff - who were on TV saying they'd seen clear evidence of collusion w/Russia, while admitting under oath behind closed doors that they hadn't - all the way down the line.
In the end we learned that it was ALL fake. At first, many Trump ppl were worried there must be some collusion, because every media & intel agency wouldn't make it up out of nothing.
When it was clear that they had made it up, people expected a reckoning, and shed many illusions about their gov't when it didn't happen.
Indeed. Not a single person has gone to jail. Even Kevin Clinesmith, the fall guy -- and no one believes he forged that document without orders from Comey or McCabe or Lisa Page -- got community service, and what was, effectively, a one month suspension of his law license.
Not a single other person paid any price.
And we're supposed to keep believing in the government, huh? We're supposed to keep enlisting in the military? We're supposed to keep obeying the laws? We're supposed to keep believing the FBI and law enforcement? We're supposed to keep returning "guilty" verdicts at trial when the Ruling Class tells us to?
Why?
The Ruling Class ignores the laws. We know as fact:
a) The Steele dossier was the sole evidence used to justify spying on the Trump campaign,
b) The FBI knew the Steele dossier was a DNC op,
c) Steele's source told the FBI the info was unserious,
d) they did not inform the court of any of this and kept spying.
Trump supporters know the collusion case front and back. They went from worrying the collusion must be real, to suspecting it might be fake, to realizing it was a scam, then watched as every institution - agencies, the press, Congress, academia - gaslit them for another year.
Worse, collusion was used to scare people away from working in the administration. They knew their entire lives would be investigated. Many quit because they were being bankrupted by legal fees. The DoJ, press, & gov't destroyed lives and actively subverted an elected administration.
This is where people whose political identity was largely defined by a naive belief in what they learned in Civics class began to see the outline of a Regime that crossed all institutional boundaries. Because it had stepped out of the shadows to unite against an interloper.
And the Ruling Class cannot be made to understand this, or maybe they understand it but just don't care: When they subverted the Constitution to turn all of our institutions -- quite illegally -- against Trump, they also subverted the Constitution and weaponized our institutions against all 75 million of Trump voters.
So I ask again: Are we supposed to continue obeying the laws? Paying taxes? Signing up to die in countries the Ruling Class chooses for us? The Ruling Class has robbed us of any real input in our supposed "democracy."
Are we supposed to pretending we believe ourselves to be citizens in a republic?
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