Monday, March 26, 2012

You may wonder why I've been commenting on an issue that is not usually my board of fare around here.

Aside from the obvious hypocritical race baiting shit heads ("being wealthy is very good. It allows people to be the real asswipes nature intended them to be") pissing me off, the answer is twofold.

First, my thirteen year old daughter came home last week and asked me what I thought about the case. Seems they had watched about it on some sort of edgeecational TeeVee programming at school and she was horrified that an adult had shot and killed a teen for no apparent reason.

Having not followed the issue very closely to that point my alarm bells went off. I told her that from what I had read that it seems that not all was as it was being presented. Then as I began to read more about it I showed her what I was finding and how and explained to her (yet again) about the lying filthy swine of a media in this country. I don't believe I used those exact words but I may have.

Her position has now moderated a great deal.

Secondly, they will try to make this a Second Amendment and Stand Your Ground issue. Chucky the Schmuck Schumer is already calling for an investigation into state Stand Your Ground laws. He said in 2005 when Stand Your Ground was first passed in Florida there were 12 justifiable homicides a year. Since then it has grown to 33 justifiable homicides a year.

He fails to mention that in that same time violent crimes in Florida dropped from 125,957 in 2005 to 101,969 in 2010 although the population grew from 17,768,191 to 18,801,310. (lots more stats here)

I don't know about you but I'd much rather see an additional 21 justifiably shot dead bad guys than an additional 14,000 violent crimes against innocent people.

And even Jeb Bush stating Stand Your Ground doesn't apply here. Sorry, governor, but if the facts prove out to be as described here, then it certainly does.

And Concealed Carry and Stand Your Ground certainly do help deter crime.

Concealed Carry, Stand Your Ground and Neighborhod Watch are not vigilantism.

What the Black Panthers are doing is.

Orlando Sentinel:

Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head

With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.

That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.

Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings he described and re-enacted for police what he says happened.

In his version of events, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.

Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.

Civil rights leaders and thousands of others have demanded Zimmerman's arrest, calling Trayvon a victim of racial profiling and Zimmerman a vigilante.

Trayvon was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, they say, who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more sinister than a package of Skittles and can of Arizona iced tea.

Supporters have held rallies in Sanford, Miami, New York and Tallahassee, calling the case a tragic miscarriage of injustice.

Activist Al Sharpton headlined a rally in Sanford Thursday that drew an estimated 8,000 people. The Rev. Jesse Jackson yesterday spoke at an Eatonville church, where he called Trayvon a martyr.

Another rally is scheduled for 4 p.m. today in Sanford.

Zimmerman has gone into hiding. A fringe group, the New Black Panthers, have offered a $10,000 reward for his capture.

Police have been reluctant to provided details about all their evidence, but this is what they've disclosed to the Sentinel:

Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community.

Trayvon was visiting his father's fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.

After the Orlando Sentinel was the first to report the detail about the marijuana, other news media have followed the story. That attention led to a press conference called by Trayvon Martin's family after a community forum in Eatonville sponsored by TV talk show host Roland Martin.

Martin family lawyer Benjamin Crump began the press conference by addressing the marijuana report.

"The family has said, 'what does that have to do with him (Zimmerman) killing my son? What does it matter?'" Crump said. "It's completely irrelevant what Trayvon Martin was suspended for on Feb. 26."

Trayvon's father, Tracy Martin, said "even in death, they are still disrespecting my son and I feel that that's a sin."

His mother, Sybrina Fulton just has one comment:

"They killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation."

Rev. Al Sharpton, who led a rally last week that drew 8,000 to downtown Sanford, said the media was missing the point.

"Why are we asking what Trayvon is capable of, when you have records of Zimmerman's past?" Sharpton asked the crowd of reporters. "He has the record of violence, so why are we going out of our way to create stuff in Trayvon's background when you have documented stuff in Zimmerman's background?"

On Feb. 26, when Zimmerman first spotted Trayvon, he called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Trayvon as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.

Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot. When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.

There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they're not sure what happened.

Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.

Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police.

Trayvon then said, "Well, you do now" or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose.

Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.

Zimmerman began yelling for help.

Several witnesses heard those cries, and there's been a dispute about from whom they came: Zimmerman or Trayvon.

Lawyers for Trayvon's family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.

One witnesses, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.

Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest from very close range, according to authorities.

When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head.

Paramedics gave him first aid, but he said no to going to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.

The Department of Justice last week opened a civil rights investigation into what happened, and Gov. Rick Scott appointed a special prosecutor.

It's not clear whether the special prosecutor, Angela Corey, the state attorney for Duval, Clay and Nassau counties, will have Zimmerman arrested, announce that there's not enough evidence to file a manslaughter charge or present evidence to a grand jury.


Pastorius said...

You're right to speak out on this issue in my opinion.

This is part of Obama's Cloward-Piven war on America.

Christine said...

If the grand jury does not find any cause to charge Zimmerman, there is going to be a huge race riot.

Doesn't matter what comes out now. Zimmerman has been charged, convicted and the noose is waiting for him, by the left.

If Zimmerman is not charged, I hope the authorities can do something to protect him and his family. Forever.

midnight rider said...

And if it was an illegal/unjustified shooting I'd be the first to condemn him for it (but I'd let the courts worry about the noose) because that is not just bad in itself but bad for all of us who choose to live life legally armed. And when the story first came out I wasn't sure about the whole thing, I had a gut reaction that it was a bad shooting, but that was only based on what was being said. But the more that comes out, the more doubt is thrown on Martin's innocence. But that doesn't fit the narrative of course.

jeppo said...

The Trayvon News Network, formerly known as CNN, says that Zimmerman is guilty guilty guilty, so that's good enough for me.

Blue said...

You got it right, MR...

What about Alan Coon?

Or this...

"Weekend of violence claims 10 shooting victims across Chicago

(Tribune illustration)
March 19, 2012|By Liam Ford, Peter Nickeas and Rosemary Sobol | Tribune reporters

At least 10 people were killed, including a 6-year-old girl, in shootings over the weekend in Chicago.

The slain were among at least 49 people wounded in shootings from 5 p.m. Friday to 6 a.m. Monday, according to information compiled by the Chicago Tribune.

Two teenagers appeared in bond court today in the slaying of Aliyah Shell, as she sat with her mother, sister and a male about 3:30 p.m. Saturday on the front porch of her home in the 3100 block of South Springfield Avenue. Aliyah was killed when a pickup truck pulled up in front of the house and someone fired multiple shots out of the window, hitting her, according to Chicago Police Department News Affairs."

Strange, eh? Oh yeah, in addition to the 10 dead, 40 were wounded.

The sad thing is that the Reverands and Louis, as well as the media and obama, are playing the black community. Fanning the flames.

Ahhhh well....

cjk said...

It's occurring to me that there's actually a good side to all of this.

The media is going to loose a lot of credibility over this. I know they do this shit all the time, but this time it's a little more intense and up front. Zimmerman looks better and more justified every day as Travon starts to look more and more like an up and coming THUG.

Women's jewelry and a screwdriver in his locker? Waiting to see if it gets matched with someones stolen stuff.

This whole case is beginning to look like Duke all over again, but on a grander scale publicly.

That 5 years ago photo says it all to a lot of people.

Always On Watch said...

I wasn't going to post about Trayvon Martin at my site. I finally did so -- only because the parents and students in my homeschool classes had false assumptions about him and were CONDEMNING Zimmerman as a racist and as a racist murderer.

And these parents are usually very reasonable people. But they were buying what the media and others were saying as those entities were canonizing Trayvon Martin!

Maybe this is a case of murder. But maybe it isn't either.

In my view, even if Zimmerman was following Martin, that's no excuse for Martin to have jumped him -- if that's what happened.

Truly, nobody should be tried and convicted in the media.

And Obama should not have said what he said, either!

Anonymous said...

I am glad this issue is being discussed in the blogs like ours. Someone needs to balance it all out. Otherwise Zimmerman, who acted in self defense, is left alone to be lynched by the leftists and those who want to take away self defense rights from the American people. Obama already said that "we need to look at the laws and the context in which this happened".

This whole thing seems to have been cooked up to attack the second amendment and to further divide America.

The idiotic Occupy movement didn't work. Now they're hoping this would!

Epaminondas said...

Let the heavens fall, but let justice be done.

To hell with the rest.