I expected to see this phenomenon unfold sooner or later. Women go where they feel safe and protected. Tough guys make them feel protected. So, the mass of women will always choose the tough guys over the pussies.
Now, does everyone understand why, eventually, we're going to have to stand up and start kicking some ass?
From the Daily Mail:
Tony Blair’s sister-in-law announced her conversion to Islam last weekend. Journalist Lauren Booth embraced the faith after what she describes as a ‘holy experience’ in Iran.She is just one of a growing number of modern British career women to do so. Here, writer EVE AHMED, who was raised as a Muslim before rejecting the faith, explores the reasons why.Much of my childhood was spent trying to escape Islam.
Rejecting her faith: Writer Eve Ahmed was raised a Muslim
Born in London to an English mother and a Pakistani Muslim father, I was brought up to follow my father’s faith without question.
But, privately, I hated it. The minute I left home for university at the age of 18, I abandoned it altogether.
As far as I was concerned, being a Muslim meant hearing the word ‘No’ over and over again.
Girls from my background were barred from so many of the things my English friends took for granted. Indeed, it seemed to me that almost anything fun was haram, or forbidden, to girls like me.
There were so many random, petty rules. No whistling. No chewing of gum. No riding bikes. No watching Top Of The Pops. No wearing make-up or clothes which revealed the shape of the body.
No eating in the street or putting my hands in my pockets. No cutting my hair or painting my nails. No asking questions or answering back. No keeping dogs as pets, (they were unclean).
And, of course, no sitting next to men, shaking their hands or even making eye contact with them.
These ground rules were imposed by my father and I, therefore, assumed they must be an integral part of being a good Muslim.
Small wonder, then, that as soon as I was old enough to exert my independence, I rejected the whole package and turned my back on Islam. After all, what modern, liberated British woman would choose to live such a life?
Well, quite a lot, it turns out, including Islam’s latest surprise convert, Tony Blair’s sister-in-law Lauren Booth. And after my own break with my past, I’ve followed with fascination the growing trend of Western women choosing to convert to Islam.
Broadcaster and journalist Booth, 43, says she now wears a hijab head covering whenever she leaves home, prays five times a day and visits her local mosque ‘when I can’.
She decided to become a Muslim six weeks ago after visiting the shrine of Fatima al-Masumeh in the city of Qom, and says: ‘It was a Tuesday evening, and I sat down and felt this shot of spiritual morphine, just absolute bliss and joy.’
Before her awakening in Iran, she had been ‘sympathetic’ to Islam and has spent considerable time working in Palestine. ‘I was always impressed with the strength and comfort it gave,’ she says.
How, I wondered, could women be drawn to a religion which I felt had kept me in such a lowly, submissive place? How could their experiences of Islam be so very different to mine?
Convert: Lauren Booth, who is Cherie Blair's half sister, decided to convert to Islam after what she described as a holy experience in Iran
According to Kevin Brice from Swansea University, who has specialised in studying white conversion to Islam, these women are part of an intriguing trend.
He explains: ‘They seek spirituality, a higher meaning, and tend to be deep thinkers. The other type of women who turn to Islam are what I call “converts of convenience”. They’ll assume the trappings of the religion to please their Muslim husband and his family, but won’t necessarily attend mosque, pray or fast.’
I spoke to a diverse selection of white Western converts in a bid to re-examine the faith I had rejected.
Women like Kristiane Backer, 43, a London-based former MTV presenter who had led the kind of liberal Western-style life that I yearned for as a teenager, yet who turned her back on it and embraced Islam instead. Her reason? The ‘anything goes’ permissive society that I coveted had proved to be a superficial void.
The turning point for Kristiane came when she met and briefly dated the former Pakistani cricketer and Muslim Imran Khan in 1992 during the height of her career. He took her to Pakistan where she says she was immediately touched by spirituality and the warmth of the people.Changing values: Camilla Leyland, 32, pictured in Western and Muslim dress, converted to Islam in her mid-20s for 'intellectual and feminist reasons'
Kristiane says: ‘Though our relationship didn’t last, I began to study the Muslim faith and eventually converted. Because of the nature of my job, I’d been out interviewing rock stars, travelling all over the world and following every trend, yet I’d felt empty inside. Now, at last, I had contentment because Islam had given me a purpose in life.’
‘In the West, we are stressed for superficial reasons, like what clothes to wear. In Islam, everyone looks to a higher goal. Everything is done to please God. It was a completely different value system.
'In the West, we are stressed for superficial reasons, like what clothes to wear. In Islam, everyone looks to a higher goal. Everything is done to please God''Despite my lifestyle, I felt empty inside and realised how liberating it was to be a Muslim. To follow only one god makes life purer. You are not chasing every fad.
‘I grew up in Germany in a not very religious Protestant family. I drank and I partied, but I realised that we need to behave well now so we have a good after-life. We are responsible for our own actions.’
For a significant amount of women, their first contact with Islam comes from dating a Muslim boyfriend. Lynne Ali, 31, from Dagenham in Essex, freely admits to having been ‘a typical white hard-partying teenager’.
She says: ‘I would go out and get drunk with friends, wear tight and revealing clothing and date boys.
‘I also worked part-time as a DJ, so I was really into the club scene. I used to pray a bit as a Christian, but I used God as a sort of doctor, to fix things in my life. If anyone asked, I would’ve said that, generally, I was happy living life in the fast lane.’
But when she met her boyfriend, Zahid, at university, something dramatic happened.
She says: ‘His sister started talking to me about Islam, and it was as if everything in my life fitted into place. I think, underneath it all, I must have been searching for something, and I wasn’t feeling fulfilled by my hard-drinking party lifestyle.’
Lynne converted aged 19. ‘From that day, I started wearing the hijab,’ she explains, ‘and I now never show my hair in public. At home, I’ll dress in normal Western clothes in front of my husband, but never out of the house.’
Liberating: Kristiane Backer says being a Muslim makes her life purer
With a recent YouGov survey concluding that more than half the British public believe Islam to be a negative influence that encourages extremism, the repression of women and inequality, one might ask why any of them would choose such a direction for themselves.
Yet statistics suggest Islamic conversion is not a mere flash in the pan but a significant development. Islam is, after all, the world’s fastest growing religion, and white adopters are an important part of that story.
‘Evidence suggests that the ratio of Western women converts to male could be as high as 2:1,’ says Kevin Brice.
Moreover, he says, often these female converts are eager to display the visible signs of their faith — in particular the hijab — whereas many Muslim girls brought up in the faith choose not to.
‘Perhaps as a result of these actions, which tend to draw attention, white Muslims often report greater amounts of discrimination against them than do born Muslims,’ adds Brice, which is what happened to Kristiane Backer.
She says: ‘In Germany, there is Islamophobia. I lost my job when I converted. There was a Press campaign against me with insinuations about all Muslims supporting terrorists — I was vilified. Now, I am a presenter on NBC Europe.
‘I call myself a European Muslim, which is different to the ‘born’ Muslim. I was married to one, a Moroccan, but it didn’t work because he placed restrictions on me because of how he’d been brought up. As a European Muslim, I question everything — I don’t accept blindly.
‘But what I love is the hospitality and the warmth of the Muslim community. London is the best place in Europe for Muslims, there is wonderful Islamic culture here and I am very happy.’
For some converts, Islam represents a celebration of old-fashioned family values.
‘Some are drawn to the sense of belonging and of community — values which have eroded in the West,’ says Haifaa Jawad, a senior lecturer at the University of Birmingham, who has studied the white conversion phenomenon.
Ex-MTV Presenter Kristiane Backer with Mick Jagger in the late Eighties
‘Many people, from all walks of life, mourn the loss in today’s society of traditional respect for the elderly and for women, for example. These are values which are enshrined in the Koran, which Muslims have to live by,’ adds Brice.
It is values like these which drew Camilla Leyland, 32, a yoga teacher who lives in Cornwall, to Islam. A single mother to daughter, Inaya, two, she converted in her mid-20s for ‘intellectual and feminist reasons’.
She explains: ‘I know people will be surprised to hear the words “feminism” and “Islam” in the same breath, but in fact, the teachings of the Koran give equality to women, and at the time the religion was born, the teachings went against the grain of a misogynistic society.
‘The big mistake people make is by confusing culture with religion. Yes, there are Muslim cultures which do not allow women individual freedom, yet when I was growing up, I felt more oppressed by Western society.’
Escape route: Former DJ Lynne Ali is happy to pray five times a day
She talks of the pressure on women to act like men by drinking and having casual sex. ‘There was no real meaning to it all. In Islam, if you begin a relationship, that is a commitment of intent.’
Growing up in Southampton — her father was the director of Southampton Institute of Education and her mother a home economics teacher — Camilla’s interest in Islam began at school.
She went to university and later took a Masters degree in Middle East Studies. But it was while living and working in Syria that she had a spiritual epiphany. Reflecting on what she’d read in the Koran, she realised she wanted to convert.
Her decision was met with bemusement by friends and family.
‘People found it so hard to believe that an educated, middle-class white woman would choose to become Muslim,’ she says.
While Camilla’s faith remains strong, she no longer wears the hijab in public. But several of the women I spoke to said strict Islamic dress was something they found empowering and liberating.
Lynne Ali remembers the night this hit home for her. ‘I went to an old friend’s 21st birthday party in a bar,’ she reveals. ‘I walked in, wearing my hijab and modest clothing, and saw how everyone else had so much flesh on display. They were drunk, slurring their words and dancing provocatively.
‘For the first time, I could see my former life with an outsider’s eyes, and I knew I could never go back to that.
‘I am so grateful I found my escape route. This is the real me — I am happy to pray five times a day and take classes at the mosque. I am no longer a slave to a broken society and its expectations.’
Kristiane Backer, who has written a book on her own spiritual journey, called From MTV To Mecca, believes the new breed of modern, independent Muslims can band together to show the world that Islam is not the faith I grew up in — one that stamps on the rights of women.
She says: ‘I know women born Muslims who became disillusioned an d rebelled against it. When you dig deeper, it’s not the faith they turned against, but the culture.
'Rules like marrying within the same sect or caste and education being less important for girls, as they should get married anyway —– where does it say that in the Koran? It doesn’t.
‘Many young Muslims have abandoned the “fire and brimstone” version they were born into have re-discovered a more spiritual and intellectual approach, that’s free from the cultural dogmas of the older generation. That’s how I intend to spend my life, showing the world the beauty of the true Islam.’
While I don’t agree with their sentiments, I admire and respect the women I interviewed for this piece.
They were all bright and educated, and have thought long and hard before choosing to convert to Islam — and now feel passionately about their adopted religion. Good luck to them. And good luck to Lauren Booth. But it’s that word that sums up the difference between their experience and mine — choice.
Perhaps if I’d felt in control rather than controlled, if I’d felt empowered rather than stifled, I would still be practising the religion I was born into, and would not carry the burden of guilt that I do about rejecting my father’s faith.
seems to me its less of the need for a tough guy than it is secular drift and desire to escape from secular pressure to be a whore.
bottom line is a trully secular society actually devoid of religion and lacking in any true faith outside of socilism/secularism is a void.
at some point something fills the void.
Personally If I were a women, I'd be even less attracted to Islam.
I'm going to have to say this again to the annoyance of almost everyone here. Rumcrook, I am "truly secular" and my life is not a "void". How dare you suggest that it is?
And "secular pressure to become a whore" is inferior to Islamic pressure to become a 4th wife at the age of 12 exactly how? And I always find it interesting that men want women to be sexually available and then call us names when we are.
These airhead Islam-joiners are the same females who in years past would be into New Age or Wicca or whatever the hell was "spiritually trendy" at the time. They are the idiots who joined the Moonies and insisted their mass-wedding marriage to a stranger picked by Moon was "spiritually liberating".
The dhimmi culture has refused to warn them that Islam is dangerous and will eventually enslave them, but instead feeds them lies about its "spirituality" and demonizes everyone who criticizes it as haters and "racists". These women are foolish and lazy enough to take that on face value.
There is also the problem of women getting lured into Islam by Muslim boyfriends. If the main focus is the boyfriend and the Islam is peripheral, she will probably be able to scrape off the Islam when she gets rid of the man. Some, however, will be sucked in to stay.
Now, observe some of the idiotic "reasons" these women give for covering themselves up in a bag and becoming a slave:
They get to wear special clothes to "please God".
They get "a purpose in life". They don't specify what, but it's to "please God".
They are stupid cows who chased after everything their "permissive" society said they should want, never even tried to think for themselves, so now they just let go and "please Allah".
(Of course, there is no equivalent of that "let go, let God" mindset in Christianity, is there... ?)
They think they look mysterious and fetching in a headscarf, but they won't tell you that one.
They are so intellectually corrupt they fool themselves into thinking converting to an intellectual wasteland such Islam makes them "deep thinkers".
They "love the warmth" of the ummah. They'll do ANYTHING the ummah asks them to, in order to stay enfolded in that "warmth". And they are so incurably PC/MC at this point that they have to reject everything else. So now they are trying to cherry pick and fine tune their little corner of the ummah to fit their comfort zones. They "question" -- but if they have any sense left, they are careful what they "question".
What will happen to those who stay in this "spiritual" hell-hole? Some will just get beaten down by the romantic-desert-sheik boyfriends/husbands, a few will try to "reform" their new security blanket, good luck with that, and some will become committed to jihad and truly dangerous. Some will break loose and the ones with real courage will speak out as Ayaan, Nonie, and Wafa do. Some will just be grateful to escape with their lives and their sanity.
I believe this has more to do with rejecting Western world, than with an actual faith. It's a political statement: they reject freedom because that means they should be also responsible and make their own decisions. They want someone who actually tells them what to do, without any kind of doubt. And Islam is perfect for that: no more moral doubts, as it's everything there or the imams are going in the end to tell them.
Revere Rides Again,
What you said does not annoy me. I understand how you feel, and I can see why you would be offended by what Rumcrook said.
However, you maybe completely secular and may not feel empty, but some secular people do feel empty and end up trying to fill that void with a religion of some kind. So there maybe some truth to what Rumcook is saying. For people who try that, and Christianity doesn't seem to do the trick for them, or doesn't appeal to them, they may try another religion, including Islam.
I know that not all people who lack religion feel empty. You'll find a lot of non religious, atheists who do not, but some do.
sorry the implication was that all non religious secular people are empty or have a void.
not my intent.but as I based off what these particular women said, it was relevent that some were in a hedonistic secular amoral lifestyle, which does not encompass all secular people quite obviously.
but it is true that man kind in general yearns for spiritual growth, and in general a secular lifestyle does not IN GENERAL provide that.
traditional christianity has in most european settings become vacuous and semi defunct.
something will fill that void.
that it doesnt apply to you is all well and good, but that there is a spiritual void in secular western european culture is not really debatable.
dont take my opinion personal, it isnt.
Hey, I'm just nudging you guys to be a bit more "precise" in your terminology -- that's what being "annoying" does.
These women do remind me most of women I knew who had been in cults or become obsessed with various "New Age" and "occult" systems. They may not even have been in "hedonistic" lifestyles, but they are very obviously vulnerable to mystical appeals and may have never developed inner enrichment systems of their own. If they are short on personal spiritual structure and attracted to trendy ideas, then they are sitting ducks for Islam. As Claudia notes, rejecting Western Civilization is very "trendy" now.
It's chillingly reminiscent of how Germans and others latched on to the Nazi's "spiritualized" politics and how much the "volk" resembles the "ummah".
Also, as people often forgot in the case of cults, it's not so much that people "join cults" but that cults recruit, aggressively, as does Islam. Another reason the dhimmitude of people who should be acting like leaders is leaving vulnerable people wide open to dawah.
Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Religious Science, or Taoism could all fill that void. But, they choose Islam.
However, I think Rumcrook, might still be onto something, at least in a small number of cases.
It could be that for some of these women, they tried other religions but non of them could fill the void for them, and for some reason they decided to try Islam next.
However since not all secular people feel empty, if they don't embrace a religion, there must be at least another reason why this is happening in addition to that. For many of them, trying to fill a void, may have nothing to do with them to converting to Islam.
legalize weed.. put the F'n foreign drug dealers out of business
Good idea. Thanks for sharing, or uh, not bogarting.
I don't agree with your idea, but even if I did, what does it have to do with this story?
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