Thursday, September 17, 2009

OBAMA CEDES POLAND AND CZECHKOSLOVAKIA - SCRAPS MISSILE DEFENSE FOR EUROPE

He's an appeaser and an amateur, and the whole world of thugs know it, and are predictably filling the power vacuum left by America's retreat.

OBAMA APPEASES PUTIN AS PUTIN ADVANCES IN VENEZUELA:

NYTIMES:

It amounts to one of the biggest national security reversals by the new administration, one that will aggravate Czech and Polish allies and possibly please Russia, which has adamantly objected to the Bush system.

... “Today, shortly after midnight, American President Barack Obama contacted me by telephone to inform me that his administration is pulling out of plans to build a radar for the anti-missile defense system on the territory of the Czech Republic,” Mr. Fischer said, adding that “Polandwas informed in the same manner.”


A Polish diplomat said early Thursday that Warsaw was waiting to hear, but added that “it is clear that the administration has other priorities.”



In arranging a post-midnight call by Mr. Obama and quickly dispatching a top State Department official to Europe, the administration was scrambling to notify and assure the European allies as word of its decision was already leaking out in Washington. The Wall Street Journalreported Thursday that the administration would jettison the Bush architecture.


But it made for unfortunate timing, coming on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland at the start of World War II, a date fraught with sensitivity for Poles who viewed the Bush missile defense system as a political security blanket against Russia.

OBAMA IS MAKING US LESS SAFE.

IF HE REALLY WAS A CRYPTO-MUSLIM DESIRING TO HARM THE WEST AND AID RUSSIA AND IRAN WOULD HE BE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY?

NOPE.

14 comments:

Total said...

As I said in MR's thread:

Obama Administration: Who the hell cares about Eastern Europe?

Ah, more loyal allies we're throwing under the bus. I guess the message we're trying to send is "fuck freedom", "we don't view you as useful allies", and "we're more than happy to leave you to the starving Russian Bear." Imagine how Reagan would react if he were still alive to see this...

Pastorius said...

Well, obviously, I'm ever more extreme than you are, because I see this as almost the equivalent of Neville Chamberlain.

Epaminondas said...

Eastern Europe: "but tonto what are we supposed to do?"

OBAMA : "what do you mean we kimosabe?"

Anonymous said...

Israel / Central Europe strategic alliance anyone?

jeppo said...

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Obama did the right thing.

From a long-range strategic perspective, I think the West should absorb Russia into its major institutions.

Russia is already a member of the G-8, and is due to join the OECD soon. They should also be invited to join NATO and someday maybe even the EU.

With China due to replace the US as the world's foremost power by about mid-century or sooner, and the fast-growing Muslim world implacably hostile to the West, we simply can't afford to treat Russia as an enemy anymore.

They share a common European Christian civilizational heritage with us, and in a hostile world blood is thicker than water. We need a friendly Russia to ensure a secure northern hemisphere going forward.

The second worst thing about John McCain (after his open-borders fanaticism) was his unrelenting hostility to Russia. I'm glad that Obama is trying to repair relations with them.

Pastorius said...

Very interesting perspective, Jeppo.

I will think about that.

By the way, America has been counted out a lot of times, and no one has beat us yet.

It is my opinion that there are inherent problems in Chinese culture which will preculde them from EVER surpassing America.

The one hope they have is Christianity. However, the Chinese government seems to have assimilated that and made it their own "state church."

I do not expect good things to come of that.

Epaminondas said...

"I think the West should absorb Russia into its major institutions."

A dream. Russia will NEVER accede to this in any way shape or form

Pastorius said...

IQ is relative.

Has anyone come up with an IQ test measuring creativity?

Why does China constantly steal our patents?

jeppo said...

Of the big four Western transnational institutions, Russia has already joined one (the G-8) and has been approved for membership in another (the OECD). NATO is now going forward with a shared missile defense system with Russia, and this ever-closer military partnership may eventually lead to full Russian membership in NATO. That leaves only the EU which, even if they don't end up absorbing Russia, will offer it a preferred partnership.

Creativity is a part of IQ. Maybe on a future thread we can have a full-on debate about race, intelligence, and economic outcomes. China steals our patents because it's in their economic interest to do so. Just because they're smarter than us (on average) doesn't mean they're more moral than us.

Pastorius said...

Some of the most intelligent people COMPLETELY LACK ANY SENSE OF CREATIVITY.

Ever hung out with a bunch of Engineers?

If you want to support your argument, why don't you do a comparative study on how many patents China produces per year compared the the USA.

Pastorius said...

Some for instances, Jeppo. Was Elvis a smart man? No. Clearly he was not. However, he was a genius singer.

Does Whitney Houston seem smart? Not to me, but once again, she is a genius singer.

If you ever hear Robert DeNiro interviewed he doesn't seem to be able to put a sentence together. But, he is perhaps the finest film actor ever.

Magic Johnson is a blooming idiot when it comes to speaking, but he is a good businessman, and the most intelligent basketball player I've ever seen.

It's harder to speak of Classical musicians, because as they are not personalities, we rarely get to heat them speak.

One thing to note is that a lot of these Asian prodigies who are such great piano and violin players when they are children don't seem to materialize into great musicians when they are older.

The truth of the matter is most of them lack feeling. This is my opinion. They learn how to copy feeling.

The problem is cultural Asian culture in general, and Chinese culture in particular are based on Buddhism and Confucianism and "The Chinese Religion" which is a form of Ancestor Worship.

The emphasis of Buddhism is acceptance. Acceptance will help you live a life without pain, because if you don't expect anything, bad things won't surprise you and have control over you. Confucianism and The Chinese Religion are both based around adhering to tradition.

What happens when for millenia people are taught not to deviate from Tradition? What happens when you have a culture based on avoiding pain by not expecting anything?

The answer is a lack of innovation.

In America and Europe, we believe in striving, which is, necessarily a painful process.

jeppo said...

"The truth of the matter is most of them lack feeling."

RACIST!!!

Actually I think that's a very perceptive insight into Northeast Asian people in general. Though I think that you'd concede that Yo-Yo Ma has learned to copy feeling quite well, at least as far as cello playing goes.

In Paul Kennedy's book "The Rise and Fall of Great Powers 1500 - 2000", he posits that the lack of innovation in East Asia compared to Europe had geographical and political roots.

Europe, being divided into peninsulas and islands, and crisscrossed by mountain ranges, developed into numerous, competing polities. This led to economic and especially military innovations because a state that didn't advance technologically would be defeated or dominated by a state that did.

China though, as opposed to Europe, is basically a big, flat country with few peninsulas, islands or mountain ranges, so political consolidation happened early and never really disappeared. And for most of written history, China was the largest, richest and most powerful nation on Earth, so there was much less incentive to continually innovate, because there was much less to fear from predatory neighbours.

Here is a chart of nations ranked by patents granted per capita. The Europeans dominate the list, particularly Northern Europeans. The US and Canada are #40 and #41 respectively, and China is dead last at #60.

Other East Asian nations fare better though, including South Korea, Japan, Singapore and, surprisingly, Mongolia.

I don't have any stats on it, but I have a feeling that Asians in Canada and the US are granted patents far out of proportion to their relatively small numbers.

I think your explanation of how Chinese religion, basically a fusion of Buddhism, Confuciaism and Taoism, stifles innovation compared to our Judeo-Christian tradition is spot on. But I think this might be changing and the Asians are catching up.

And of course the Muslim world and sub-Saharan Africa are being left in the dust, as always. The former I would blame on an innovation-stifling religion, and the latter on very low average intelligence.

I think it's safe to say that a society's level of innovation is partly based on nature (genetics), and partly on nurture (culture).

Pastorius said...

Yo-Yo Ma is a truly great musician. He is not, in my opinion, copying feeling. He is feeling.

That is, by the way, a pathetic statement that America is way down at #40 on that list. I can't imagine that's the way things were 40 years ago.

What the hell happened.

Prctially every Korean I meet is Christian. I'm guessing it is the same in South Korea.

There is also a HUGE movement towards Christianity in China and that will eventually destroy all Communism.

I read an article a few months back which theorized that Culture can breed itself into genetics over the course of just a few generations, and vice versa.

In other words, what a lot of people believe are racial differences are actually cultural differences.

Or, so it would seem to me.

Pastorius said...

Jeppo,
I just noticed two things which make that list very suspect.

Iran is on it, and Israel is not.

Do you really think Israel would not sit in the top 60 nations in patents granted per capita?