Thursday, December 27, 2012

Myth- Hitler Was A Devout Christian

 only in the fevered minds of one dimensional christian haters was hitler a "christian"
it took all of 1 minute to come up with solid evidence from historians and scholars that
disprove that, and only the most tenuous fevered connections to claim he was a christian.

Myth- Hitler Was A Devout Christian
This is just another unsubstantial accusation. Some atheists has used this canard to discredit Christianity and its influence. They argue that Hitler was a devout Christian. But is this true? Was Hitler really a Christian? Let’s find out. First of all Hitler wasn’t a Christian in an orthodox way. In fact Hitler hated and rejected Christianity. The book Hitler’s Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, has definitive proof of Hitler’s real views. Adolf Hitler said about Christianity,

National Socialism and religion cannot exist together…. The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity…. Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.”
“Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery…. …. When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let’s be the only people who are immunised against the disease.” (p 118 & 119) According to a press release from Catholic League President, William A. Donohue (2/4/99): “Hitler was a neo-pagan terrorist whose conscience was not informed by Christianity, but by pseudo-scientific racist philosophies. Hitler hated the Catholic Church, made plans to kill the Pope, authorized the murder of thousands of priests and nuns, and did everything he could to suppress the influence of the Church. In 1933, Hitler said, ‘It is through the peasantry that we shall really be able to destroy Christianity because there is in them a true religion rooted in nature and blood.’” There are many more documents and evidence that Hitler indeed wasn’t a Christian. This is just another cheap shot and a bad myth attributed to Christianity.

Despite the belief by many pagans and even many Christians alike,Hitler was NOT a Christian.

Hitler despised Jews and anything remotely Jewish and so naturally he despised Christianity. Hitler once said in a speech that "Christianity is the greatest trick the Jews every played on humanity". Does this sound like something a Christian would say??? Even though there are some neo-Nazi groups that claim to be "Christian" it doesn't make them so. You can claim to be a bullfrog and even go so far to paint yourself green, but it doesn't make you a bullfrog. In fact, had such "Nazi-Christian" groups existed in Hitler's Germany they would have surely been liquidated after the war. There was to only be one religion in the new Germany had Hitler won, and that religion would have been a state-run version of  the Neopagan religion called Odinism.

  There are statements Hitler made that could lead one to the conclusion Hitler was a Christian, but only if you're Naive. For instance, in Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." (Mein Kampf Pg 33, English Translation)

"The National Government will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation was built up. They regard Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as a basis of national life." (Hitler to the German People: Feb. 1 1933).

So Hitler not only tried to make himself sound like a Christian, and even tried to make anti-Semitism sound like a Christian cause. When reading such statements, people must use common sense (if you don’t possess any, please get some). First of all, Mein Kampf was not meant to be a book of factual statements, but instead meant to be a sort of sales brochure for evil. After all, Hitler never said "I plan to kill all the Jews in the whole world and get Germany in another world war! I will also kill anyone I don’t like, including Freemasons, handicapped people, Trade Unionists, or Jehovah’s Witnesses. I’ll make soap and dog food out of them in concentration camps. After that, I will eliminate Christianity altogether and replace it with a nationalistic Neopagan religion. Whoever defies me will be killed!".

   But these are exactly the things he was planning while he was writing Mien Kampf. He couldn't tell people all his crazy schemes or what he really thought or he never would have come to power. Common sense can detect this is true.

Hitler’s Views on Christianity: The Facts

Let's look at a few things before you decide Hitler was a Christian. Here are some quotes which show what Hitler really thought of Christianity from the people that were in his inner circle:

"Christianity is an invention of sick brains...The war will be over one day. I shall then consider that my life's final task will be to solve the religious problem." [Hitler’s Table Talk, p. 142-4]

"Christianity is the biggest lie the Jews ever told humanity"

-- Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.

"So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," -- Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.

"When National Socialism has ruled long enough, it will no longer be possible to conceive of a form of life different from ours. In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together…The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity." [Hitler's Table Talk, p. 6-7]

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." [p. 51]

"Christianity, of course, has reached the peak of absurdity in this respect. And that's why one day its structure will collapse. Science has already impregnated humanity. Consequently, the more Christianity clings to its dogmas, the quicker it will decline."[Hitler's Table Talk, pp 58-62]

"Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking 'You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?'" [Speer, Albert, Inside the Third Reich, Bonanza Books, New York, p. 96]

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity." [Hitler's Table Talk, p. 75]

"The Jew who fraudulently introduced Christianity into the ancient world----in order to ruin it----re-opened the same breach in modern times, taking as his pretext the social question. Just as Saul became St. Paul, Mardochai has become Karl Marx." [p. 314]

People who want to paint Hitler as a Christian (including some Neo-Nazis) state the above claims come mainly from the" recollections" of his followers and therefore may not be true, and then brainlessly fall back on quotes from Mien Kampf to paint Hitler as a Christian. But as we see, there are too many of these "recollections"(and from people who were closest to him no less) for it to not accurately reflect what Hitler thought about the Christians. Who would better know what Hitler really thought than the people closest around him? This may come as a shock for the more naive readers, but Adolph Hitler was not well known for his truth telling abilities! Mein Kampf is a book of lies. Are we also to believe the other things written in Mein Kampf, including German racial superiority, and an international conspiracy of Jews taking over the world? Hitler, like any dictator, lied to suit the situation as he saw fit.

Germany’s population followed the Christian religion, and Hitler knew that he needed the support of Christians, or else he would not be supported as the undisputed leader of Germany. Hitler merely claimed to be a Christian solely for political purposes. Albert Speer, the architect and weapons procurer for the Third Reich reveals why Hitler did not immediately gas Christians in the death camps. Albert Speer noted in his memoirs, " Around 1937, when Hitler heard the at the instigation of the party and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church, he said, although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide." [ Inside The Third Reich by Albert Speer Pg. 146]

A person claiming they have "no real attachment" to the church is not a Christian! A person who uses church membership to further aims of world domination is not a Christian! Just going to church does not make one a Christian, going into a chicken coop does not make one a chicken! The enemies of the Christian religion try to paint Hitler as a Christian to detract from it. When Christians see such claims, we must fight back through the courts. We cannot allow these lies to continue.

Far from embracing Christianity, the Nazi’s, in fact, instituted a policy known as "Kircenkampf" (literally meaning "against the Church"), which was a campaign against the churches, both Roman Catholic AND protestant. The plan was to gradually eliminate Christianity and replace it with Odinism! The plan was not publicly announced, but the signs of it were obvious, and certainly Hitler’s inner circle knew of Kircenkampf. For some Nazis, Kircenkampf wasn’t going fast enough. Martin Bormann was one such Nazi who would have loved to have eliminated Christianity before the war ended.

"In Bormann’s mind, the Kirchenkampf, the campaign against the churches, was useful for reactivating party ideology which had been lying dormant. He was the driving force behind this campaign, as was made time and time again made plain around our round table. Hitler was hesitant, but only because he would rather postpone this problem to a more favorable time. Here in Berlin, surrounded by male cohorts, he spoke more coarsely and bluntly than he ever did in the midst of his Obersalzberg entourage. ‘Once I have settled my other problems,’ he occasionally declared, ‘I’ll have my reckoning with the church. I’ll have it reeling on the ropes." [Inside the Third Riech by Albert Speer pg 147]

Clearly Hitler and the Nazi high command wanted to eliminate all Christian Churches. It was not really a question of "if" but "when". Neopagans like Bormann wanted it done immediately, but Hitler wanted to wait until he had won World War II, and then with the world conquered. Hitler knew he needed people to fight for him, and he had to pay lip service to the church until his aims were met, and then he could destroy it. Hitler’s hatred for Judaism and all things Jewish was all consuming, so the tyrant, any Christian church was just another form of Judaism.


New Evidence Discovered

In 2001 new documents from the Nuremberg trials were declassified and released to the public by Rutgers Law School that do indeed confirm Hitler was going to eradicate Christianity after the war had he won. The documents including original handwritten notes, appear on the web site of the Rutgers University School of Law in New Jersey in the United States. General William J Donovan, an investigator at the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg after World War II compiled The 148 volumes of material. According to Julie Seltzer Mandel in an interview with The Philadelphia Inquirer, "A lot of people will say, 'I didn't realize that they were trying to convert Christians to a Nazi philosophy...[the Nazis] wanted to eliminate Jews altogether, but they were also looking to eliminate Christianity."

The first installment, entitled "The Nazi Master Plan; The Persecution of Christian Churches", describes how the Nazis planned to replace Christianity with a religion based on racial superiority and the worship of Germanic gods like Thor and Odin. The report, prepared by the O.S.S. ( the forerunner of the CIA) states: "Important leaders of the National Socialist party would have liked... complete extirpation of Christianity and the substitution of a purely racial religion...The best evidence now available as to the existence of an anti-Church plan is to be found in the systematic nature of the persecution itself...Different steps in that persecution, such as the campaign for the suppression of denominational and youth organizations, the campaign against denominational schools, the defamation campaign against the clergy, started on the same day in the whole area of the Reich...and were supported by the entire regimented press, by Nazi Party meetings, by traveling party speakers"

Eradicating Christianity is definitely not the actions of a Christian! In fact, Hitler was not a Christian at all, and I think that point is clear now (except to those who want to cling to conspiracy theories). Hitler's hatred of Jews was all consuming. He saw Christianity as just another "Jewish cult". It is true that he considered Jews a "race" rather than a religion, but his hatred for Christians seemed only slightly less. But unlike something genetic, a person's religion can be changed. So the Nazis would have used great coercion to stop the Christian faith, and would have executed the remainder who refused. Thank God Hitler lost I am not sitting here writing this as an Odinist. Wait a second, why would I be writing this as an Odinist?

I guess I wouldn’t be !

And thank God for brave men like my late father, a PFC in the 3rd Army Rangers, who fought against the Nazi Pagan devils. They knew the Holocaust really happened because they saw it.

ADOLPH HITLER (1889-1945) Hitler’s name doesn’t spring to mind when one thinks of an occultist,  but some occultists consider him to have had occult powers, so I'll mention him. Hitler might have been an Odinist (worshiper of false Viking gods like Thor, Odin, and Freya), or possibly just an atheist who dabbled in the occult, but at any rate, he obviously wasn’t a Christian.  Some occultists consider him an "ascended master" or even an "avatar" (incarnated god). Hitler wanted to exterminate the Jews and eventually replace Christianity with Germanic paganism, and this much is certain.

    Whatever Hitler’s religious beliefs were, we can certainly rule out his being a Christian. In 1996 documents from the Nuremberg Trial were discovered detailing the Nazi’s systematic persecution of Christian Churches and Hilter’s plans to eliminate Christianity altogether after WWII. An American General detailed the accounts given to him by former Nazi leaders of Hitler’s “Kirchenkampf” plans which comprise no less than 150 volumes of Nuremberg Trial documents alone! Even though Hitler may have written and said things at times to make him sound Christian, such as things he said in Mein Kampf, it should be remembered Mien Kampf is political propaganda and not to be taken at face value. Mein Kampf also doesn’t mention Hitler’s plans for the Holocaust, either. Ruteger’s Journal of Religion and Law has made those Nuremberg documents available to read online

the evidence goes on and on and on, hitler was not a christian


Anonymous said...

Didn't your jesus make hitler? Isn't your jesus in control of the past present and future? Didn't your jesus make free will?

To make humans believe this hideous reality,jesus organized for himself to be tortured.

What kind of mind would cognize such a sick psychotic reality?

When will it stop all the misery here on earth? The monotheists explanation of free will is what the rational human being understands as torture.

Jesus along with Mohammad's reality truly is from hell.

Leave us alone and stop taking refuge in something that dosnt protect you.

At least your torture is less painfull the the servants of Mohammad.

Anonymous said...

1. youve got nothing.

2. you keep setting up straw man arguments.

one example is that this is a christian blog, it is not. it is a pro western, pro western culture blog and thier are many people jewish, christian, secular, who contribute to it.

you have set up false arguments with which to do battle with and to argue against and you have done it by putting forth false facts.

start your own blog and rail to your hearts content.

Anonymous said...

Stop hiding behind lies.

Reality is subjective.

If you thinks its the sky its the sky.

Your website is not pro-western it is pro tea party americanism.

It is not possible to debate with a cognition that perceives fantasy.

You expect us to take refuge in something that harms us and dosent protect us and is founded on violence.

Anonymous said...

You all are suppose to be killed stop complaining they are trying to help you all. You monotheists will be in eternal peace and the athiets will be extinct.

Anonymous said...

Do you mean in the same way that jesus allows ieds to be set off? This must be a test run.

Charles Martel said...

Anon(s), crawl in a hole and die!

It may not be a very Christian thought, but that should not bother you. Besides, you seem to be under such mental pain and stress that my suggestion may be the best anyway! Stop the suffering for everyone, including you. Merry Christmas!

Anonymous said...

Thats the problem with monotheists you all believe after death you will never experience suffering again.

Due to this you all believe you have a licence to do what you want when you want.

Try to stop living in delusion.

Nicoenarg said...

Huh? And atheists think that after death there's suffering? You seem to have your head way up your ass to know what the hell you're talking about.

Take Charles Martel's advice and crawl in a hole and die. Before you do that, take my advice and go f*** yourself.

Anonymous said...

It dosnt end. *****

Charles Martel said...

Nico, out of curiosity, are you still in the Land of Oz or are you here in the good USA?

Anonymous said...

How are you going with the Taliban charles ? is your protector still watching? It must be a different form of suffering?

Anonymous said...

Do they have senses ?