Sunday, January 31, 2010

Councilwoman: Violence is What Islam is all About

From Logan's Warning:
It is very well known that most of our politicians do not have the courage to speak the truth about Islam. But the list of those that do is slowly growing, and more are on the way. We are finally heading in the right direction my friends! Keep on speaking out!

Councilwoman accused of racist Muslim comment

Sid Garcia
(KABC) — A diverse group of Antelope Valley religious and political leaders are asking for Lancaster City Councilwoman Sherry Marquez, to apologize for what she wrote on her Facebook page about Muslims.

“Why this is of such great concern is that it isn’t something that was said to somebody or was overheard on an open microphone. It is because it went on the World Wide Web,” said Valerie Elliott of the Antelope Valley Interfaith Council.

A portion of what Marquez wrote on her Facebook page after reading a story about a Buffalo New York man accused of beheading his wife reads, “This is what the Muslim religion is all about. The beheadings, honor killings are just the beginning of what is to come in the U.S.A. We are told this is a small majority of Muslims in America, but it is truly what they are all about.”

“We need her apology to come from the heart, and that comes with education,” said Kamal Al-Khatib of the American Islamic Institute of A.V.

Hey, Kamal al-Khatib, FUCK YOU!

There ought be no apology here, because, from all the evidence, what she says is the absolute truth.

And, in fact, part of the evidence is that we don't see people like Kamal al-Khatib speaking out against Jihadism, nor do we see them speaking out against Islam's call to kill gays, apostates, and adulterers, or against Islam's granting women only second-class status.

Instead, all people like Kamal al-Khatib will speak out against is Infidels who tell the truth about Islam.

If you want us to stop saying such things about Islam, then Muslims need to organize themselves into large groups and make unequivocal public statements against the above Islamic atrocities.

But, Muslims do not do this. Instead, organizations like CAIR, the Muslim American Committee, and the Islamic Society of North America, actually support Sharia, never condemning it's abuses.

We are only left to think that that is the true voice of the Muslim community.

So, like I said, FUCK YOU!

people to take a moment to write the city council communication's director in support of this City Council woman.

Email for Communications Director, City of Lancaster, CA

jcabral@cityoflancasterca.org

Web page with further contact phone numbers, info on communications director:

http://www.cityoflancasterca.org/Index.aspx?page=31

Sherry's council member webpage:

http://www.cityoflancasterca.org/index.aspx?page=215

Write this council. Disseminate the information. Support Sherry!

Midnight Rider butting in (because I already had this written when I saw Pasto's post)

Brave Enough to Speak the Truth And of course get hammered for it.

What Sherry Marquez said is no different than what we say here a thousand times a day.

If the Muslim Community REALLY want to disavow the less attractive aspects of their cult then they need to stand up and openly disavow all those who practice it. After they've started talking about the Threat of Jihad the free world faces, after they've started talking about SHaria and Honor Killings and openly proclaimed not just that Islam doesn't preach that, but actively work to end it, then MAYBE we can start talking about how we Infidels see it. But not until then.

Clean up their own fucking house first before complaining to the homeowners association about ours.

Marquez exercised her First Amendment. The comments are not racist because, of course, Islam is not a race. She deserves support.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Go team! :)

Pastorius said...

:)

Pastorius said...

Here here, MR.

Anonymous said...

After 9/11 to 2010 majority of the people who accepted the Islam, belonging to USA and Uk and in majority almost 65% women accepted the Islam....

Now Go and find out the real stories about Islam, that why people accepting the Islam in USA and in Uk, who force them :) If Islam against the women then why women are in majority who accepting the Islam, So Plz don't make false stories about Islam

Anonymous said...

Just trying to post with my new name here!

Hope this works.

Pastorius said...

They're not false.

Your Krayon and Hadith say

1) women are worth half a man in court of law

2) women are a field to be ploughed by men

3) if your wife steps out of line, beat her

4) daughters and wives are the property of their fathers and husbands

5)if you marry a woman before the age of puberty, you should sexually gratify yourself by sticking your penis between her thighs and having sex that way.

If you are not aware that your scriptures say these things, I will get you the references.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, it worked!

Pastorius said...

Cool. I like your name. Isn't that an Elvis Costello album title?

midnight rider said...

Juliet Juliet wherefore are thou and is that you Juliet???

:)

Anonymous said...

Yep, me. Yep, Elvis album.

I'm glad you answered the Annoymous poster, Pastorius. Good answer.

Krayon! Hee!

Pastorius said...

Yeah, as in, the Krayon is so stupid it must have been written in ...

Anonymous said...

Thomas Carlyle in 'Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History,' 1840

"The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only."
"A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so."

De Lacy O'Leary in 'Islam at the Crossroads,' London, 1923.

History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.



Gibbon in 'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' 1823

The good sense of Muhammad despised the pomp of royalty. The Apostle of God submitted to the menial offices of the family; he kindled the fire; swept the floor; milked the ewes; and mended with his own hands his shoes and garments. Disdaining the penance and merit of a hermit, he observed without effort of vanity the abstemious diet of an Arab.



Edward Gibbon and Simon Oakley in ‘History of the Saracen Empire,’ London, 1870

"The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force."
“It is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at Mecca and Medina is preserved after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the Indian, the African and the Turkish proselytes of the Koran....The Mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith and devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man. ‘I believe in One God and Mahomet the Apostle of God’ is the simple and invariable profession of Islam. The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honors of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion.”




Reverend Bosworth Smith in 'Muhammad and Muhammadanism,' London, 1874.

"Head of the State as well as the Church, he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by a right divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life."
"In Mohammadanism every thing is different here. Instead of the shadowy and the mysterious, we have history....We know of the external history of Muhammad....while for his internal history after his mission had been proclaimed, we have a book absolutely unique in its origin, in its preservation....on the Substantial authority of which no one has ever been able to cast a serious doubt."


http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/quote1.html

Pastorius said...

Arah and our Anonymous Muslim commenter,

http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2010/02/everything-you-need-to-know-about-islam.html

TRUTH said...

Dear Mr Pastorius,Sarah and Anonymous,
First and foremost,let me state FIRMLY:I am a muslim who TRIES regularly to pray five times a day and even sometimes the Tahajjud prayers.I say I try because only Allah can tell how good a muslim I am.
The next thing is I don't want to offend any party.What I say here is just based on my observation of the world and the effects of Islam.I just want to say the TRUTH.First let me DEFEND my religion .
POINT1:It is true that Muhammad killed infidels.Yup, its the truth.Nobody is going to deny that.But wait......here comes the catch:He did it only when he was at WAR with the infidels.WAR.....Mr.Pastorius,with all due respect....ONLY in times of WAR.Is it normal during wartime NOT to kill your enemies?Think about sir,please.As far as my knowledge is concerned, no fighting party had done that.At least NOT THE AMERICAN ARMY FOR SURE.
Next comes the negative sides of Islam:
1.Islam DOES degrade women.Mr Pastorius,you're 100% correct.All the points that you pointed out are true(beating your wives up etc).Islam states that the woman should abide by the PURDAH(concealing her body parts except the eyes, as far as I know).It states that following the purdah saves women from rapes and sexual harrasments.NOW my question is:HOT WOMEN IN EUROPE AND AMERICA ONLY WEAR BIKINIS (OR SOMETIMES EVEN NOT WEAR THEM!).Are they raped?Are they sexually harrassed?(And By the way, caucasian chicks are so hot!).As far as my knowledge is concerned, rapes are more common in the Arab world and the BACKWARD Countries than Western Countries.What answer do you have for this MR.Anonymous and Sarah?And by the way, one simple fact:Are the societies prospering in the Islamic world?Just look at them man.Their asses are getting kicked by the Western forces.THey are technologically backward.Most of the countries have absolute zero human rights.To sum it up,except Iran,most of the Islamic world is lanuishing way behind.Only Iran is prospering because of one simple fact:They seek knowlege, which is a rare occurence in the Islamic world.Just stop being dogmatic and try to soul search a bit.You'll find the answer.Hope to hear from you soon.

Pastorius said...

Truth,
You sound like either

1) you are not a Muslim (because you say "Islam does degrade women, and usually Muslims never admit any problems with Islam)

or

2) you are a Shia-supremacist and apologist.

Hope to hear back from YOU soon.

Truth said...

Mr Pastorius,
Firstly I wish to reiterate that I AM a muslim.In fact, a DIE HARD Muslim.What I am saying is just what I think is true.Why am I doing this?Cause I love god.Allah.I believe in a higher power.But I simply do not agree with everything Islam says.Let me give you an example:WHY DO PARENTS SCOLD THEIR KIDS WHEN THEY DO ANYTHING WRONG?COZ THEY LOVE THEM.This is also like that.

Pastorius said...

Truth,
Ok, then you are, as a Muslim, as I am, as a Christian. I understand you.

And, I appreciate the way you think.

Anonymous said...

A Catholic TV asked Yusuf Estes- Why he Converted to Islam!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfzFYEOVDgM&feature=related

Truth said...

Dear Mr Pastorius,Sarah,Anonymous and all Muslims and non-muslims alike.....
First,and foremost,I would like to share a few facts that I think are FACTS of human life.
Firstly,I firmly believe that debate,even it is a very rational and logical one, does not help in mitigating any conflicting opinions between intelligent people.The key word here is INTELLIGENT.Let me explain by an example.Assume a person is saying that Hijab help's protect a woman's sexual security and chastity.Another party, for example , a non-muslim, argues that Hijab is not needed to save oneself from sexual harrassement.His or her argument is that, for example, western women wear bikinis in beaches or sometimes are even naked(which I saw my self in Pattaya beach, Thailand),YET the number of rapes and sexual harrasement is less than those societies where women abide by the Hijab or Purdah.THEN, the person who SUPPORTED the Hijab would actually CHALLENGE the non-supporter to PROVE that the facts he is stating are true.AFTER that, even if the NON-supporter can prove that he is right,the SUPPORTER would not accept it.Simply because if he accepted what the other person was saying, he would LOSE the argument.My point here is that EVERY argument or debate between INTELLIGENT (the key word here is intelligent,stupid people are a different scenario altogether)comes down to facts or in some cases, statistics like these.And in most cases, if they are intelligent and smart, would not give up one's belief.I don't know if I could explain it clearly,but this is how I really feel about debates and discussions.They DON'T RESOLVE CONFLICTS BETWEEN INTELLIGENT AND IF I MAY ADD,SELF-RESPECTING PEOPLE.ARGUMENT IS NOT THE SOLUTION.

Moving onto the next FACT,first of all, I would like to clear a few misconceptions about Islam.

As I mentioned in my post a few months ago, Islam supports killing infidels ONLY when Islam is ENDANGERED.IN DANGER OF BEING EXTINCT.IN DANGER OF BEING KILLED.(I intentionally use such strong words here).In one statement, Islam speaks of SELF-DEFENSE and resorting to violence only when other people are violent.Muhammad killed those who endangered Islam or himself.He simply had NO CHOICE.
What would you do if something very valuable to you were to be endangered by someone?Would you sit back and enjoy the dilemma or try to save it?I think everyone knows the answer to that.More later.

Truth said...

Dear Mr Pastorius,Sarah,Anonymous and all muslims and non-muslims alike....

Firstly, I would like to share a few facts with you.These facts are not about any religion, but about human life.

First,I strongly believe that arguments and debates between INTELLIGENT people do not produce any winner or loser.Because each argument and debate almost always ultimately comes down to facts and in some cases, statistics,which the other party denies the authenticity of.In short,nobody wants to change their personal views on a particular matter,even if there is concrete proof.And that is because of one thing that all INTELLIGENT people have in common: Self respect or Ego(in a positive sense).

Second,I would like to note some misconceptions about Islam that non-Muslims have.As I mentioned in my post a few months ago,Islam tells us to resort to violence only for SELF-DEFENSE.Mohammed killed the infidels simply because the thing he cherished the most in his life,Islam,was in danger of being KILLED(I use such a strong word intentionally).What would you do if YOUR children were about to be killed in front of you?Would you sit there and watch the fun or do something to protect the love of your life?I think you know the answer.More later.