Friday, December 23, 2016


President-elect Donald Trump slammed the Obama administration for its decision not to veto a U.N. resolution critical of Israel's settlements, promising that it would be "different" under his presidency. 
"As to the U.N., things will be different after Jan. 20th," Trump tweeted Friday. 
Trump’s tweet came about an hour after The U.N. Security Council passed a resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlement building in occupied territories. 
The U.S. had the ability to veto the resolution but abstained from doing so, despite pressure from Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and U.S. lawmakers on both sides. 
The Obama administration’s decision to let it pass represents a break from the longstanding U.S. policy of shielding Israel from U.N. reproaches. Israel’s settlements have been seen by critics as human rights violations and some say they are an obstacle to achieving peace between Israel and the Palestinians. 
Trump pressured Obama before the U.N. vote to veto the resolution. 
"As the United States has long maintained, peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians will only come through direct negotiations between the parties, and not through the imposition of terms by the United Nations,” the president-elect said in a statement Thursday. 
"This puts Israel in a very poor negotiating position and is extremely unfair to all Israelis."


Kid said...

The UN needs to be removed from the USA and we need to withdraw from it.

Pastorius said...

Total agreement.

christian soldier said...

been saying for years
-get the US out of the UN -
take the valuable buildings and land==and use them for the good of the USA!!

Redneck Texan said...

I'm no fan of the UN or Obama. (I wish they both would leave the US)

I'm pro Israel and hate the Palestinians. (One side blows my shit up, the other doesn't)

But I have no problem with Obama here.

..... I know right from wrong.

I understand why Israel feels the long term strategic need to expand their territory. Its no different than our expansion into Indian country.

Its also no different than Putin taking control of Crimea.

But we shouldn't be continually vetoing UN resolutions against Israel doing what we've told them not to do.

Not only does it (our Veto) make us complicit to their illegal expansion, it has given our other allies the freedom to jump on the anti-Israel bandwagon at the UN without the responsibility for the repercussions of their votes.

.... makes us look stupid.

I just wish the resolution had some enforcement teeth. I wont to see which nations would contribute troops to removing the illegal settlements.

Epaminondas said...

Collect the parking fines FIRST and send them on their way.

Use the money to buy land in Ouagoudougou and set the UN there

Use the UN as low income housing and turn the general assembly into a high school basketball stadium

Epaminondas said...

Redneck ... the basic idea is that a 2 state solution is the answer. In which case the settlements can be viewed as problematic.

Except NOWHERE have the Palestinian people indicated they want a 2 state solution, EXCEPT as a waypoint to the death of israel. Every poll since AT LEAST 2000 has shown this to be a fact and by 2-1.

There is ZERO reason to expect a pal state to be anyting except GAZA.

Israel took land in the 67 war which was part of NO STATE. The refusal of arabs there to accept Israel since launched a 'well then, fuck it' attitude by jews who are simply BUYING the land as they did from 1890-1947 and setting up 'settlements'.

Until the palestinian people ACCEPT THE IDEA of living with a sovereign jewish state in perpetuity, there just isn't anything to negotiate except temporary truces in a neverending war.

The idea that the UN can impose on the ONLY jewish state some borders or final peace which adheres to the ideas of a COMPLETELY anti semitic insitution (just look at UNESCO) is THE REASON why the USA vetoes all such resolutions.

Obama is WRONG, and there is ample evidence the USA and Susan Powers, who in the past called for US troops to land in Israel to protect palestinians, engineered this vote brought back by New Zealand, and Venzuela after Egypt tabled it until Trump took office.

I can think of NO ACTION Obama has undertaken since 2009 which has made us all safer.

The Last English Prince said...

I have supported the removal of the U.N. from US soil for years. It is a self-serving snake pit and foci of espionage and political intrigue.

Redneck Texan said...

Yep ..... I'm all for 2 State Solutions

Used to be a lot easier to get away with it.

I quess anyone can justify a land grab in their minds.

But in this case all of Israel's early European supporters quit being supporters once most of the Jews had left Europe. That leaves Israel no real supporter but us.

When your only remaining supporter tells you repeatedly to stop doing something but you keep doing it .... you shouldn't get upset with him when he stops running interference for you at the UN.

Always On Watch said...

NOWHERE have the Palestinian people indicated they want a 2 state solution, EXCEPT as a waypoint to the death of israel.

Yes, that is the reality of the much-touted 2 state solution. We can wish all that we want that such was not so. But it is so.

Always On Watch said...

Obama is doing everything he can to make sure that the world is a less safe place by the time that Trump takes office. Democratic Party's strategy for the 2020 Election?

Pastorius said...

RT says: I understand why Israel feels the long term strategic need to expand their territory. Its no different than our expansion into Indian country.

I respond - Yes, and look how good that turned out. California is a wonder, and pretty much the inventor of the modern world; everything people love is from California.

I have sympathy for the Biblical argument, but I would be disingenuous if I didn't come out and tell the truth: I think it is always good for free nations to expand and unfree piece-of-shit nations to contract.

The world would be better off without Palestine. That does not mean I support genocide. But ultimately, I would support a gradual annexation and assertion of real Freedoms protected by real laws.

RT says:

Pastorius said...

The other thing I did not see Epa address is this: Settlements are (as Epa said) land Jews bought and then (as I did not see Epa note) simply live on - IN THE SAME WAY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ARABS LIVE IN ISRAEL.

The only reason "settlements" (which are apartment buildings, condos, and homes to you and me) are an issue is because Jews live in them. That is an example of the outright bigotry/racism of the Palestinian state - which wants a Judenrein territory.