Judge Jeanine spoke with Rudy Giuliani about Trump's immigration executive order last night. Giuliani reveals how they arrived at the 7 nations. Disturbing.
Judge Jeanine: I want to ask you about this protest. Does this ban have anything to do with religion? How did The President decide the seven countries? I understand a permanent ban on the refugees. Ok, talk to me.
Rudy Giuliani: Ok, I'll tell you the whole history of it. So, when he first announced it, he said "Muslim ban". He called me up and said put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally. I put a commission together with Judge Mukasey, with Congressman McCaul, Pete King, a whole group of other expert lawyers on this and what we did is we focused on, instead of religion. . .DANGER. The areas of the world that create danger for us, which is a factual basis. . .not a religious basis. Perfectly legal. Perfectly sensible. That's what the ban is based on. It's not based on religion. It's based on places where there are substantial evidence that people are sending terrorists into our country.
Judge Jeanine: Well, let me ask you this. Well, you know, I was kind of surprised to see that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are not on the list. And yet, we know that the San Bernadino attack by Syed Farouk and Malik, I think her name was Tashfeen Malik. She was born in Pakistan and then came through Saudi Arabia. So, I mean, why were some of those countries left out?
Rudy Giuliani: I'll tell you about Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is going through a massive change. I think The Kingdom, particularly under the new prince has a real understanding that we're dealing with a massive radical Islamic terrorist problem. It is not the old Saudi Arabia. This isn't the Saudi Arabia of 2000, 2001, 2002. President Obama (!!!) is dealing with a new Saudi Arabia...(interrupted by Judge Jenean) "President Trump, rather, is dealing with a very different Saudi Arabia than President Obama was dealing with. Saudi Arabia has a much closer relationship with Israel and with us - if we know how to use it correctly.
Rudy's reasoning is utter B.S. and he should know better.
The House of Saud and the sitting prince's authority is extremely tenuous. Rule & control over Saudi Arabia and Islam's holy places by the House of Saud was secured in 1979 during the Siege of Mecca with the understanding that the House of Saud holds sway ONLY so long as they maintain their agreement with Islamic hardliners to use their newly acquired oil wealth to spread Islam globally by ANY and ALL means as dictated by Islamic doctrine and interpreted by Islamic scholars and hardliners - just as the Islamic ringleader Juhayman took seige of one of the holiest places in all of Islam, Mecca. Muslims are the biggest victims of Islam throughout history. They willingly sacrifice their own to achieve doctrinal ends. For Rudy to suggest that Saudi Arabia is very different simply because their mortal enemy, Shia Iran was gaining strength during and with the aid of the Obama administration - is very short sighted if not utterly blind to this enemy and this enemy's purpose. Saudis will gladly use Western blood and treasure, particularly that of those they routinely identify and despise and throw stones at the big and little satan hajj pillars to protect themselves from the Shia threat. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
The 'gates of ijtihad' are closed for over a thousand years. Islam will never moderate, no matter what fairy tales our politicians prefer to take to bed.
I suggest Rudy and company familiarize themselves with this crucial understanding of history . . ."Siege of Mecca" by Yaroslav Trofimov
and a frequent reading recommendation by Hugh Fitzgerald over at JihadWatch.org during 04-08...
J.B.Kelly: Of Valuable Oil and Worthless Policies which was originally published in the British magazine "Encounter" in July 1979 and republished at JW in 2008.
This is why I could not vote for Giuliani in 2008 during the primaries. He has a mild case of Islamophilia - convinced Islam can be moderated.
So ..... why are Saudi Arabia and Pakistan not on the fuckin' list?
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