Monday, March 31, 2008

Not a RIPPLE except among the seethers. Fitna disappears amid fear and censorship


Go ahead, take a tour.
Drudge ?
NYT?
WaPo?
LAT?


GONE.
Liveleak was so worried about threats they pulled it.
Comcast has banned it from it's bandwidth and closed accounts summarily.
I never HEARD it mentioned on FOXNEWS, or FOX NEWS TALK XM & SIRIUS where they discuss everything.

What are we left with from this, in world terms, LESS than an incident. we are so stirred up with here?

The condemnation of the UN Sec Genl of the exercise of free speech as anti-islamic.
future_pak_thoracic_surgeon.jpgThe condemnation of of the Dutch govt who wanted to be seen to try to stop free speech which might be offensive
The moves by the incredibly racist OIC to get the UN to make law involving PRIOR RESTRAINT of free speech.

Silence from George Bush AND Mr. Cheney
Silence from John McCain
Silence from Hillary Clinton
Silence from Barack Obama
Silence from Tony Blair
Silence from every leader save those who condemn free speech


The news?
Aloha Airlines halting passenger service
Clinton campaign not paying bills
More muslims on earth than Catholics
Olympic Torch arrives in Beijing

Are we getting the picture?
Is the size of the job yet clear?

In this world, at this moment, avoidance of offending muslims is more important than defending free speech

In this world, at this moment, avoidance of offending muslims is more important than defending free speech

We have not even yet arrived at the point of alerting anyone except each other. The people in charge of day to operation of this planet, the mindless functionaries who want to get home to see American Idol, or the stupid strip tease TV game show on RAI UNO, who make the millions of minute decisions every day that TRULY affect us don't have a clue. They would rather shut up the 'troublemakers' and send out for Chinese than face the music. Quite human.


14 comments:

Ray Boyd said...

I got 30,000 views on Viddler, which is good for that site, in fact it was number 3 in the most popular list.

AS OF THIS MORNING IT HAS BEEN PULLED.

I have uploaded to a different account. Go to CommonSense for viewing and downloading instrucyion.

Epaminondas said...
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Epaminondas said...

I have not embedded it for viewing ..anyone can view it once downloaded, but it is HERE on OUR servers, right here, in OUR building

LINK TEXT:
http://72.43.56.119:8081/hereitis.zip

Pastorius said...

Your video was pulled, Ray?

Jesus.

Ray's video was #3 on Google. Depending on the country, it could be as high as #1, but I never saw it lower than the #10.

And, only 30,000 hits.

That means that only maybe only a few hundred thousand people were aware that this video had been released. Maybe a few million,

in a world of 6 billion.

And yet, it was so important that the head of the UN had to make a speech about it.

And, by the way, the "news stories" you mention, Epa. Think about the timing of the announcement that Islam is bigger than Catholicism. That's big news to Muslims. Do you think that was done in reaction to Fitna?

And, who does the fucking Pope think he is, anyway? I'm a fan of the Pope, but think about the astounding bigotry of his announcement. He made an announcement that Islam is the biggest religion, because it is bigger than Catholicism.

No, Islam is not the biggest religion.

The Pope might be interested to know that there's this religion called

CHRISTIANITY.

For God's sake, Catholicism is just a sect of Christianity, no matter what the Pope might want to believe about his position as head of the Catholic church.

As I said, that is astounding bigotry.

And no one has commented on THAT.

If I were to say Catholics aren't Christians, then I would be called a bigot.

The Pope revealed his bigotry.

Epaminondas said...

I hadn't realized the pop made that announcement.

Absurd.

He converts and baptizes a muslim, then Fitna, then that?

I don't understand that thinking

Always On Watch said...

We have not even yet arrived at the point of alerting anyone except each other.

I think that we counter-jihadists were reaching others. And that has caused the clamping down.

I think that my site has been banned by Google alerts--again.

Maybe until "the bad thing" happens, I don't see how we can break through to the mainstream media.

And what if "the bad thing" doesn't happen???

Stogie said...

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Saberpoint, where we have 5 download links up and running. Grab a copy in avi, flv, or wmv formats.

Atlas Shrugs linked to it too.

We're not selfish. If anyone has an easy download link (that just involves clicking on an icon and choosing save to) drop me a line and I will add your page and link to my site.

I am getting my heaviest flow of visitors ever.

Pastorius said...

Thanks for alerting us Stogie. I put a link to your site in our

"Fitna- A Quicker Download"

post.

However, since the company Ray Boyd (Infidel contributor) was using to host the video took it down, we are no longer #3 at Google, so you won't see that much traffic from us.

Thanks again.

Anonymous said...

Pat Condell, Post Fitna - The Religion of Fear

Hi everyone. Well, now that the FITNA furor has died down somewhat, it's interesting to see how many people are condeming the film and how few people are condeming the thuggish intimidation that forced LIVE LEAK to remove it.

What happened to all those people who keep telling us "I don't agree with what you say but I'll defend your right to say it ." Where have they all gone? Maybe they're on vacation.

No shortage of politicians, however, lining up to accuse the film of falsely equating Islam with violence, which is a bit like falsely equating Walt Disney with Mickey Mouse.

I'm sure anyone who follows the news would also equate Islam with violence. I know I certainly do because anytime anybody criticises Islam, they're usually threatened with violence. Islam without violence is like an egg free omelet.

The religion is predicated on violence and the threat of violence. It's a 'religion of peace' in the same way that North Korea is a People's 'Democratic' Republic. But we're not allowed to say that, because if we do, we'll be threatened with violence.

When the film was actually removed - under threat of violence - some muslims had the nerve to congratulate LIVE LEAK ' for promoting tolerance' on the internet.
I'll tell you, whenever I think about this stuff now, I think I'm in a hall of mirrors . . .don't you?

To be fair, Dutch muslims do deserve some praise because they could've reacted violently and probably gotten away with it . . .we all know that. So, all credit to them for not exploiting the situation.

But the very fact that we are greatful to them, pretty much proves the point of the film. Because, let's be clear about this, it was the threat of muslim violence that caused the Dutch government to grovel in such abject dhimmitude and to run around apologising like headless chickens before and after the event.

A spectacle which I'm sure many muslims enjoyed - and why shouldn't they enjoy it? After all, it sends out a clear message to the entire muslim world that in Europe, we won't stand up for what we believe in. . .or what we 'say' we believe in and we will be intimidated into silence. All you've got to do is shake your fist and we'll do exactly as we're told.

So, Islam in Europe now enjoys the best of all possible worlds. It's a religion when it wants to be. It's a culture when it wants to be. And it's a race when it wants to be. It gets full rights on all three counts - demanding and getting respect wherever it goes while giving absolutely none. Hence, we were treated recently to the spectacle of the Swiss Foreign Minister degrading herself and her country by putting on a head scarf before she was allowed to meet the homicidal leadership of
Iran. In a cheap betrayal of all the brave women who have been murdered by these violent criminals in the name of Islam.

The Iranian government were among the first to criticise the film too. Taking time out from executing children, again - in the name of Islam, to denounce it roundly. But I'm sure most people realize that this fake outrage is in no way genuine. It's all part of a cynical campaign of intimidation by the Islamic world to force unwanted Islamic values into Western society. And that's why, in every free country they're now aggressive Islamist pressure groups, usually funded by the Saudis, who claim to speak for all muslims, but who actually speak only for a small band of fanatical bigots like themselves - and who are very quick to insult our culture and our values as degenerate and immoral while being themselves ultra-sensitive to any perceived criticism - portraying themselves as victims, as oppressed rather than as the oppressors they are. Knowing that if you repeat the lie often enough people will start to believe it. Mr. Goebbels taught us that little nugget of wisdom and the would be authors of the next hollocaust have learned their lessons well.

Now luckily for me I don't get insulted easily on a personal level, not even if being called a racist kafir as some idiot called me recently. When somebody attacks my culture, well, that's a little different because that's an assault on my values . It diminishes my sense of self worth. I believe it violates my human rights and I think he should be prosecuted as a hate crime. It's irrational, its paranoid and really I think there is only one word to describe it - and that is civilizationphobia.

This is a word I like to use as kind of like umbrella word for a host of different phobias that manifest themselves in Islam. Including elestherophobia (sp?)- fear of freedom. Epistomophobia - Fear of Knowledge. Prosophobia - fear of progress.
Picatophobia - fear of sinning or imaginary crimes. Categeliphobia (sp?)- fear of being ridiculed. Senophobia(sp?)-fear of new things and ideas Keraphobia - fear of gaety (big fear of gaety) and the biggest fear of all of course, gynophobia - fear of women. Islam is terrified of women and thats why all over the internet, you'll find clips from Arab television where along with all the rampant Jew hating and other propaganda aimed at turning children into murderers, you'll find clerics calmly explaining under what circumstances a man may beat his wife in the religion-of-peace. That's right, a man may beat his wife. And they wonder why we don't want this stuff in Europe. If you lay a violent hand on a woman. you're not a man - you're an animal and I don't care how many so called scholars tell you that cowardly brutality is the will of god. Chances are, you've never been on the receiving end of the kind of punishment you like to dish out so freely.

So, I hope the Hindus have it right because if there is any justice you will be reincarnated as a female from a sexual Jew and then you'll find out what a pain it is having to deal with violent primitive dick heads like you.

You know, when I was growing up I never thought I would be ashamed to live in the twenty first century. I thought it was going to be a new golden age. The space age. An age of knowledge and discovery and we'd have shaken off the shackles of superstition by now. Surely we have the technology to reach for the stars. Maybe we can even create paradise right here on earth.

I remember looking forward to it. Well, here we are and what have we got? We've got Islam, a violent, seventh century desert dogma that wants to take over the world, remove our freedom, subjugate women, brainwash children, pursecute Jews and homosexuals and drag us all back a thousand years. And all we can do is make excuses for it for fear of causing offence.

We really are pathetic - aren't we?

You know, I think people living five hundred years from now will look back on this period of history and they'll laugh at us.

Well, wouldn't you?

PEACE.

Anonymous said...

It's back on liveLeak

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

Pastorius said...

HerRoyalWhyness and Anonymous,
Thank you to both of you. I put your stuff on the front page.

Thanks again.

Anonymous said...

You're very welcome Pastorius. :D

AOW - Yes, FITNA is definitely gaining an audience, with increased interest due to all the publicity decrying it. Like forbidden fruit, my teens friends in high school can't get it fast enough . . .they're texting each other about it.

Kids are angry and alarmed that this has gone under the radar for so long.

Pastorius said...

Really?!!?

I'm surprised.

Do you live in America? What country do you live in?

Are you saying your kid and his friends are angry with the Jihadis?

Anonymous said...

That's the best news I've heard all day. But I'm not surprised. The problem is ease of access to this information. But, as in the case of Rev. Wright's Wrants, once people are exposed to a truth they sense is not being manipulated or "spun", they do react with outrage.

I just got Walid Phares' "Confrontation" for 40% of at The Bookstore Chain Which Must Not Be Nameed, so if anyone has one of their membership cards they can go pick one up tomorrow for about $15 hardcover. Following an infusion of caffeine I will post part of his section on the near-total default of the MSM with regard to warning us about the dangers of Jihadism.