Sunday, November 30, 2008

Interfaith Dialogue With Satan


After all, you've got to keep the lines of communication open with your enemies, right?



Beverly Hills synagouge to do interfaith with 9/11 hijacker mosque and Al Qaeda spokesman mentor

November 16, 2008

Temple Emanuel will be having an interfaith event tomorrow with the King Fahd mosque which was attended by two of the 9/11 hijackers and Muzammil Siddiqi former president of ICNA an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas Founding trial. The evening is also sponsored by the Muslim Public Affairs Committee. 

According to Discover The Networks"A few hours after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, MPAC Co-Founder Salam Al-Marayati told a Los Angeles talk radio audience: "If we're going to look at suspects, we should look at the groups that benefit the most from these kinds of incidents, and I think we should put the state of Israel on the suspect list because I think this diverts attention from what's happening in the Palestinian territories so that they can go on with their aggression and occupation and apartheid policies." 

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30 comments:

Damien said...

Pastorius,

Actually, I personally wouldn't like to meet Satan, but according to Rob Taylor of Red_Alerts many Satanists are openly anti Islamization. He pointed out, commenting on a post of his called, "Pagans_Shocked_to_Discover_Wicca_a_Manson-esque_Hippy_Sex_Cult" that two of places he goes to find commentaries critical of the goals of Islam are Satanist and Conservative blogs. Its probably because the Satanists know what the Jihadist would do to them if they ever gained power. Read the article and the comments, I got it into an interesting conversation with Rob over this. It surprised me when I first found out. Doesn't war make strange bed fellows?

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Damien said...

Pastorius,

Here's a link to Rob's post that works. Sorry about that.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who thinks they're worshipping satan isn't. Satan want's to be worshipped as God, therefore he must masquerade as God to be satisfied with such worship. The real worshippers of satan call him 'allah'.....It seems to me that the far leftist are among the more despicable, traitorous, and destructive members of our society.

Damien said...

cjk,

It looks like you want to get a Fatwa! - : )

Pastorius said...

In my opinion, CJK is correctamundo.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

Did you happen to look at either of my links?

Pastorius said...

No, I didn't Damien.

I don't much like "Satanists". Though I agree with CJK, I must say, I don't know which is worse, a Jihadist, or a person who says they worship "Satan."

Put Dungeons and Dragons together with crystal meth and white supremacism and you've got Satanism.

Very sick people.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

Actually Rob Taylor might best be describe as a conservative pagan, Which is rather odd sounding. I I don't think he's a satanist, although he sometimes reads their blogs. You might want to check out his Red Alerts website. Its mostly criticisms of the left, Islam, and people who don't behave themselves. He might also make a good Infidel blogger. Also he's a big time opponent of Obama. Rob has referred to his supporters as Obamunists.

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Damien said...

Pastorius,

By the way, I don't find Satanism appealing either, and Rob Taylor is anti drug legalization. Many of his posts are on people who harm other people due to their drug abuse.

Damien said...

Also he's not a racist either.

Anonymous said...

Damien, I checked out the Rob Taylor links and found some intriguing info connected to my past work in cult investigation. Does Taylor state anywhere exactly which satanist sites he visits? Because there is a high-ranking satanist in the intelligence community and I would like to know whose side he is on. I do know that his "revelation" was apocalyptic in that he predicted a catastrophe was coming that only the "elect" members of his cult would survive.

Satanists were part of my cult "beat" and they ranged from head-banger heavy metal Ozzystonerclones to pretentious twits who thought they were "rebelling" and standing up for "the Individual" to deluded pseudointellectual megalomaniacs to white-collar crime gangs
I only ever heard about from the cops to drug lords with creative talent for staging inspirational human sacrifices. Which is not to doubt that a lot of them probably hate the idea of Islamization for the same reasons they hate the idea for fundatmentalist Christianity or any other religion but the one they've made up. Most probably have at least the common sense to realize they'd wind up hanging from a crane in any Islamist society. A few, however, are into surviving in and manipulating for their own gain any system in which they find themselves. If they thought Islam really was the wave of the future, they would be looking for ways to control its influence on themselves.

Damien said...

revereridesagain,

Sorry, he never said which one's he visits. I never heard about that Satanic cult your talking about. Although it doesn't surprise me. I have heard about a lot of crazy stuff related to Satanism. Some of them are genuine kooks and violent kooks at that. Anyway, like I said earlier, he's not a Satanist, and I'm not fond of Satanism either.

Damien said...

revereridesagain,

As for any of them thinking that they could control Islam, well if they thought they could, they'd be in for a rude awakening.

Anonymous said...

Oh yes, indeed. They tend to think they can confuse, manipulate or intimidate their way around any opposition. Jihadists armed with instruments of torture might prove a bit more challenging than they expected.

Pastorius said...

Damien,
You say that if the Satanists thought they could control Islam, they are in for a rude awakening indeed.

Yes, that's because Islam is the real Satanism. As I've said many times before, Allah is Moloch, the god who demands to drink the blood of his adherents, especially the children.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

This Moloch?

Pastorius said...

Yep.

He has taken many different names over the years, but he always demands blood. You know him by his behavior.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

The fact that people through out history have practiced blood thirsty religions doesn't prove the existence of some dark super natural being, it just proves that man has a dark side to his nature and is capable of horrendous depravity.

Pastorius said...

Damien,
That means you think it is natural for man to behave the way Muslims behave, revelling in blood and body parts as the Palestinians do, teaching their children to become "martyrs", cutting themselves on Ashura, and dancing in blood, herding in throngs and asking for death.

That's all part of human nature.

That's your opinion.

In my opinion, it flies in the face of reality. I have never felt like that in my life. Never have I wanted to play with body parts, drip in blood, or see the ones I love kill themselves for God.

It has never even occurred to me.

But then, I don't worship Allah.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

You said,
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In my opinion, it flies in the face of reality. I have never felt like that in my life. Never have I wanted to play with body parts, drip in blood, or see the ones I love kill themselves for God.
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I'm not surprised, most people have not, but that doesn't mean that it has no basis in human nature. Religious fundamentalism, has a basis in human nature, but that doesn't mean that all human being will become religious fundamentalists or even find religion appealing.

Also, I don't think its normal for people love death. I just think that man has a violent depraved side. Actually suicide martyrdom is an aberration, even for a Muslim. Muslim fundamentalist may admire it, but most of them value their lives too much to become suicide bombers themselves, no matter what they may say. For one thing look at the top leadership of Al Queda and the Taliban, most of them fled for their lives, when their lives were in danger. Even most Jihadist value their lives far more than they say they do. If they didn't, and they truly loved death and martyrdom so much, why haven't they all become suicide bombers? In general, other than those that have been coerced into it, its only the most extreme fanatics who ever bombers.

Pastorius said...

Damien,
This is a subject on which you and I disagree. It is counter to human nature to want to kill oneself, or to sacrifice one's child.

I understand your point. However, I don't agree.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

I said it was counter to human nature to want to kill oneself, that's why even Jihadists often have trouble recruiting suicide bombers. At least in general, suicide goes against human nature.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

You should have read over my comment more carefully.

Damien said...

Pastorius,

Here's my last paragraph agian, only rewritten with a mistake removed.
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Also, I don't think its normal for people love death. I just think that man has a violent depraved side. Actually suicide martyrdom is an aberration, even for a Muslim. Muslim fundamentalist may admire it, but most of them value their lives too much to become suicide bombers themselves, no matter what they may say. For one thing look at the top leadership of Al Queda and the Taliban, most of them fled for their lives, when their lives were in danger. Even most Jihadist value their lives far more than they say they do. If they didn't, and they truly loved death and martyrdom so much, why haven't they all become suicide bombers? In general, other than those that have been coerced into it, its only the most extreme fanatics who ever become bombers.
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You might want to reread it.

Pastorius said...

Damien,
Yes, you did. Sorry if I did not acknowledge that.

Ok, then let me rephrase this.

Looked at one way, one could say, suicide is human nature, because as far as I know, humans are the only animals who do kill themselves on purpose.

However, when humans do kill themselves it is because they have lost hope.

Jihadists who kill themselves or their children, do not kill themselves because they have lost hope. Instead, it is the opposite. They kill themselves for hope, and that is counter to human nature.

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Anonymous said...

Why would the Nazi Germany divert badly needed men and material to exterminating Jews while they were fighting for their very existence. They also had to know that these very deeds would only serve to strengthen and embolden their enemies desire for their total destruction and rule out any compromise. What force caused many thousands of otherwise level-headed men to engage in such evilness for no apparent gain and at great if not fatal cost to themselves, their familis, and their names. Hitler didn't have such power within himself alone.

Pastorius said...

CJK,
That is a very compelling question.

And, Hitler once said that if only he were able to rid the world of Jews, everything else would fall in line.

That thought only makes sense if he were motivated by some sort of spiritual force. Even as a piece of insane detritus it doesn't make sense.