Tuesday, December 08, 2015

Bosch Fawstin on "Deporting" All Muslims

Bosch Fawstin is a former Infidel Blogger's Alliance contributor. He is a friend of IBA. He is the winner of Pamela Geller's Draw Mohammed Cartoon Contest in Garland, Texas.

Muslims showed up in Garland, armed and with the intent to murder Bosch, Pamela, and Robert Spencer.

Bosch Fawstin was raised Muslim. As he got older, he came to believe there is no God. In speaking to him, I have ascertained he is a follower of Ayn Rand. He believes Freedom of the Individual is foundational.

Here's what Bosch has to say about the notion of deporting all Muslims, or calls to "kill them all."
I've earned decades of animosity towards Muslims, having been raised by them, threatened by them, and nearly murdered by them, yet I would Never call to "deport them all!" and to "kill them all!", as some are actually openly saying on the internet. (Where would Muslims born in the West be deported?) 
I focus on the enemy's ideology, Islam, and its most consistent practitioners who wage Jihad. And I came to this position after I studied Islam and Jihad as if my life depended on it after 9/11. 
I can understand Americans and Europeans being suspicious of Muslims and choosing not to associate with them, especially during this war that Islam's true believers are waging on us, but if you're part of the "Kill 'em all!" crowd, then you would have been calling for the death of me, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Nonie Darwish, Ibn Warraq, Walid Phares, etc. 
We got out and spoke out, and if we all focus on the true threat and finally end up burying Jihad, many more will.


Always On Watch said...

9/11 is almost 15 years in the past.

It seems to me that if Muslims haven't "reformed" since then, they present a clear and present danger in our midst.

Am I wrong about that?

Anonymous said...

I don't know anyone saying "deport them all" or "kill them all." That is a Red Herring.

Trump says put a moratorium on admitting further Muslims until we have some kind of goddam plan in place to screen these people for the purposes of protecting the citizens of the US and media and politicians scream fuckin bloody high heavens!

Is Trump the fascist here? He's not talking about killing people or deporting all Muslims.

Pastorius said...

I don't think Bosch Fawstin's post was in response to Donald Trump.

I think Bosch would probably agree with Trump's idea about putting a temporary moratorium on Islamic immigration.

Anonymous said...

The City of New York and State of California vow to insure their respective polities do NO business with Trump owned enterprises because they don't like his stance on immigration.

And Trump is the FASCIST??

Pete Rowe said...

The event where Mr. Fawstin and Ms. Geller were targeted was held in Garland, Texas.

Pastorius said...

Ah, yes. Thanks for the correction.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Fawstin, like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Nonie Darwish, Ibn Warraq, Walid Phares, and all others who left Islam, are nothing but normal human beings, who had they belonged to any other religion,they would have not been considered apostates, having the penalty of death over their heads.

According to experts on the subject, once the government decided to "respect" and accept aspects of Muslim life as part of our social fabric, American Muslims who had fled Shariah felt abandoned by the US, and thrown into the arms of the radical new comers, and violent imams in their midst.

Until our leaders announce a viva voce that:
1. Islam as religion is just a small part of a totalitarian ideology.
2. Shariah has no place in America, and that though American courts recognized marriages performed overseas under Shariah, any legal action taking place on US soil, will be viewed under American law. Allowing divorces, custody cases, or inheritance resolutions under Shariah goes directly against the most basic principles of equality guaranteed by our Constitution. Women and children are the victims.
3. No special accommodations will be allowed for religious considerations in the work place, in schools or in any other public places. Islam is not different from other faiths.
4. Start indicting processes for CAIR members who are still "unindicted co-conspirators .... etc."
5. ICNA, CAIR, ISNA, and all other Brotherhood fronts should lose their tax exempt status. They are involved in political activitites since Islam is a political ideology.
6. Violence against Muslims will not be tolerated, and will be prosecuted according to the law. Muslims should be allowed to find ways to reform their religion, ridding it of a violence that has no place in our world.
7. Further acts of violence against the homeland, or instigation to sedition should be tried for treason, and dealt accordingly.

Unless we speak clearly once and for all, I do not see much hope, because rational, atheist individuals like Mr. Fawstin still identify as Muslims, and feel attacked when trying to deal with this very complex issue.

I am of Latin ethnicity, but understand 100% the country's feelings about illegal aliens, as well as Mr Trump vocal position about this subject. He may be bombastic in the way he presents issues, but he is certainly right both on the invasion through the Southern border, as well as on the refugee program.

Why is it that nobody questions the disparate number of Muslims welcome into the country compared with the shameful low number of Christians?

Pastorius said...

We do.

Not that anyone is listening to us.


Nicoenarg said...

I think Bosch Fawstin's work is awesome and he's a pretty courageous person. However:

"but if you're part of the "Kill 'em all!" crowd, then you would have been calling for the death of me, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Nonie Darwish, Ibn Warraq, Walid Phares, etc."

WTF? They're not Muslims. I don't know anyone sane going "Kill 'em all" (I don't know who he hangs out with) but its pretty condescending to think that those who don't want Muslims around can't tell the difference between Muslims and ex-Muslims.

Secondly, I am one of those who are suspicious of Muslims, regardless of whether they're active terrorists or not, the same way I would be suspicious of all Nazis whether they were actively dumping poison gas into the chambers or not.

Now, I agree that no one should call for all Muslims in America to be killed just like no one should advocate that all those skinhead neo Nazis be killed.

BUT you have to charge enemies of the country with treason according to the US constitution Article III, Section 3, "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

Now anyone who says that most of the Muslims in that case won't end up being charged with treason (because of Zakat and/or taking part in Jihad) either doesn't know shit about Islam or is in bed with them.

Pastorius said...

Nico, I get what you're saying, but surely you are aware that it would be easy for murderous racists to infiltrate this movement.

IMO, every once in awhile, we have to restate our commitment to the principles for which we are truly fighting, equality for all.

Like it says at the top of our page:

All of us, every single man, woman, and child on the face of the Earth were born with the same unalienable rights; to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And, if the governments of the world can't get that through their thick skulls, then, regime change will be necessary.

Nicoenarg said...


Yup, can't disagree with that.

Anonymous said...

Any movement fighting for freedom and to maintain American values would have to self monitor, in order to make sure no racists or bigots are infiltrated.