All of us, every single man, woman, and child on the face of the Earth were born with the same unalienable rights; to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And, if the governments of the world can't get that through their thick skulls, then, regime change will be necessary.
I like it, it rocks!
Did you design it...it's great!
Are these available? It is really easy to set up a store on CafePress and upload your image and allow us to buy shirts or stickers or whatever with this image on it. Check out the Citizen Warrior Depot on CafePress. Setting up that store costs me nothing, and the products are high quality. They print your design on the product of your choice and ship it to you.
While I was just locating the link to my own CafePress shop, I came across this one too: Citizen Warrior. I don't know who this guy is, but I like his design!
No, I didn't design it. I found it last night while I was trolling the web for new images to use here at IBA.
I came across the image and posted it.
This morning I found the website where they sell the clothing and I put up the link.
Well, hm. It reminds me of the skull insignia designed by the occultist Karl Wiligut and used by the Nazi Schutzstaffel. Overlaying the cross of Our Lord with a skull makes an .. interesting juxtaposition of the satanic primitive sacred and the revelation that the Christian faith says destroyed the power of the same.
I personally find it unhelpful and disingenuous to the Crusaders who engaged in legitimate defense of pilgrims seeking to safely visit the sites of Christendom in the Holy Land.
If we're going to distance ourselves from the Scimitar's methods, we have to distance ourselves in nobility and Christian symbols, IMO.
I understand your concern.
I think the Jihadis need us to shove a little bit of hell up their asses.
I once saw a T-shirt with a drawing of a diver on it holding an assault rifle, slowly coming out of murky brown water. But the diver was a skeleton, and on the T-shirt it said "Navy Seals." I asked my brother about it and he said that the Navy Seals actually would like it, they are elite military men and they want to be feared.
I tend more to that side on the argument. As you may have noted, the photo at the top of the page is of Vlad Tepes the Impaler. Vlad the Impaler is not looked on by history as a good man. In fact, he was not a very good man.
However, when the Turks were invading Europe, the Bishops of the Catholic Church knew where to turn for an army; to Vlad the Impaler.
They knew that he knew how to kill the Muslims and to defeat them.
And, in case you didn't know, the reason he knew how to kill Muslims and defeat them is because he grew up among them.
So, Vlad was a bad man, and yet we have him on our masthead. And, the image is frightening and I want it to be so.
Where I agree with Athos is that image, like words, do mean something. In fact, often they carry with them very specific meanings. We ought to choose which images we want to define ourselves with because as Christ said, The tongue (that which proceeds from the mouth) defines the man.
We don't want to become monsters, and yet, perhaps we will have to in order to win.
I honestly do not know.
Here's an interesting fact about Vlad Tepes you might not know. His real name was Vlad Dracula and was in part the inspirations for Bram Stoker when he wrote his famous vampire novel. Yet today in Romania, he regarded as a hero by the local populous. Now isn't that a strange juxtaposition?
Yes, and he's considered a hero specifically because he put back the Jihad.
In fact, the way he put back the Jihad is, in my opinion, instructive of the kinds of things we will have to be willing to do to win this war.
He killed tens of thousands of Muslims in a battle and impaled them on stakes through the anus and out the mouth.
He left them there to rot.
When more Muslims came to do battle with the Romanians, they saw this frightening scene and turned and fled out of a kind of superstitious horror.
If the battlefield had been merely littered with bodies, I don't think it would have had the same effect.
I think it was the fact that they were artfully arranged in rows and the scene looked like something out of Dante's Inferno.
Muslim culture is by definition base and superstitious. We ought to use that to our advantage.
Pastorius wrote: I'm torn.
I think the Jihadis need us to shove a little bit of hell up their asses...
We don't want to become monsters, and yet, perhaps we will have to in order to win.
I honestly do not know.
I appreciate your honesty, Pastorius. For 20+ years as an ordained Methodist pastor, I had to toss a coin on certain decisions because Methodism has criteria establ. by John Wesley - Scripture, Tradition, Reason and Experience - but then one is on one's own. Methodism by Wesley's own admission was only supposed to be a reformation of Anglicanism (he stayed an Anglican priest all his life tho' "ordaining" preachers for the American experience).
As a convert to Catholicism these 8 years, the richness and fullness of the patrimony and Magisterium of Mother Church - the headwaters of ALL Christianities - yes, even fundamentalists like yourself get most precious beliefs from Her. 600 years ago, we'd all be Catholics (1100 for the Orthodox).
Catholic teaching supports legitimate defense and chivalrous virtues - but there are lines one crosses, ends justifying means, that as you say, puts you in the same camp as the enemy - and Satan laughs triumphantly.
Rene Girard calls this the "problem of the doubles" - when we begin to mimic our rival/enemy and become twins caught in a mutuality in which we gradually lose interest in our goal (winning) and become fixated on our enemy, willing even to kill ourselves as long as we take him with us.
You guys are doing too much thinking. Do you want to survive? Then you do what you must.
This is what we Christians do.
You said: even fundamentalists like yourself get most precious beliefs from Her. 600 years ago, we'd all be Catholics (1100 for the Orthodox).
I say: I know. I read a lot of Benedict's writings, and I subscribe to First Things. Plus, I studied the history of the Catholic Church in college. Unlike most of my fellow fundies, i love the Catholic Church.
You speak of mimicing one's enemy.
Well, I say, do what you need to do to win, but understand that it is a role you are playing. Do not become the role you are playing.
That is something all soldiers struggle with.
In order to kill a man, even in a just war, one must do so and yet understand that when the war is done, he puts down his gun.
If the enemy is to be stopped, he must be understood. If it takes brutality to stop him, then we must be brutal.
If it takes a mimicry of Muslim brutality, then we must mimic that brutality.
My proposal (because I have written on this subject before) is that we kill the men in battle and then impale them. That way the torurous aspect is avoided, but the scene looks the same.
Does that make sense?
My proposal is that we use our technological advantage. One of the Islam-o-Fascists biggest weaknesses is that their societies tend to be technologically backwards, and to a degree the same goes for their military. We should use both our brawn and our brains. Lets be brutal and ruthless, but lets also be smart.
In my opinion, one well-orchestrated attack which displayed some sort of supernatural type of maneuver will scare them more than thousands of smart-bombs in a shock-and-awe maneuver.
what do you mean displays some sort of supernatural type of maneuver?
Impaling people on sticks doesn't smack of the supernatural to me. Even in Medieval times, both the Christians and the Ottoman Turks would have had a perfectly rational explanation for that. I don't think that coming across what Vlad had done scared the Turks because they were superstitious. I think it was that they realized that they had come across someone who was incredibly ruthless, perhaps at least as ruthless as they were. Keep in mind that when it comes to Jihadists, not all of them are as willing and eager to die as they say they are.
Yes, let's be smart. And innovative.
And war isn't really the thing we have most to concern ourselves with. Islam's gradual, legitimate gain in political power in non-Muslim countries is the much more significant long-term threat. Here, though, a different kind of ruthlessness will be necessary: Doing things that aren't "fair." How will we gain the stomach for it? Those of us who know the Islamic ideology fairly well already have the stomach for it, so it seems to me it is only a matter of education.
But then the question is: How can you educate someone on a subject they don't want to be educated on? Here we might also take some lessons from our enemies. One of the things they do is try to tell the kafirs an "acceptable" truth (something the kafirs will accept, something not unbelievable even if it's true). They try to understand the mindset of the victims of their propaganda and make sure they reach and influence that mindset.
Those of us trying to inoculate the world against the Islamic encroachment need to do more of that, I think. How do we get our fellow kafirs interested in learning more about Islam? How do we get around their multicultural-mindset barrier? How do we get past their already-existing sensitivity to anything that sounds "racist?"
In other words, right now we need expertise in PR more than we need expertise in brutality, although if we fail in our PR efforts (if we don't get enough kafirs to know what's going on) large-scale brutality will be necessary.
You said: what do you mean displays some sort of supernatural type of maneuver?
Impaling people on sticks doesn't smack of the supernatural to me.
I say: You have to remember, Muslims are primitive and superstitious. You know how American Indians whoop and hollered when going into battle. It is my opinion that that was a way of psyching themselves into a kind of trance, and of scaring the enemy into thinking they were some sort of elevated army of elevated beings.
Likewise, I think when Vlad Dracula impaled the Muslims on the battlefield the reason it worked was because he arranged them in neat rows, in an almost artistic fashion.
As I said, it must have looked like something out of Dante's Inferno.
I think it is true that Vlad Dracula got his supernatural reputation because he did things that were so beyond the scope of other warriors that they seemed to smack of the brutatlity of a demonic force.
Does that make sense?
I think we are fools to not turn this into a real war. I don't think we can win a long-term demographic war with Muslims and the only way we can win the economic war is to drill our own oil and leave them behind.
But, the truth is, that won't even work, because Russia and China will still buy oil from Muslim countries. So, if we stop buying, that will only give Russia and China even more power, and really in a way, they are our real enemies in this war.
And, if you don't believe what I say in the above paragraph look at what has happened with Iran. We haven't bought oil from Iran for 29 years. Russia and China have. So, Iran, russia and China are friends, and we are the odd men out. The three are an axis and are actively working to triangulate us out of our grip on power.
Do you see what I mean?
Damien, you said, "not all of them are as willing and eager to die as they say they are." I was just reading an article that backs up. It's called Living To Bomb Another Day.
It says, in part, "While the terrorist group has been careful not to mention it in its official statements, it is no longer uncommon to find jihadists in their chat rooms and, according to Western intelligence sources, in interrogations, stating that young men are reluctant or simply too scared to take part in suicide attacks. At the same time, military blows against Al Qaeda’s training structure since 2001 have meant that the number of extremists with combat experience is decreasing, and that new recruits are harder to train.
"The startling cost in lives of its operatives in Iraq and Afghanistan has motivated Al Qaeda’s technical experts to start seeking technical solutions, primarily on the Internet, that would render suicide unnecessary. These solutions mostly revolve around remote controls — vehicles, robots and model airplanes loaded with explosives and directed toward their targets from a safe distance."
Yes, Pastorius, I see what you mean about China and Russia, but what do you mean about turning this into a real war?
How would you do that? Would you attack someone? Provoke something? What do you mean?
And wouldn't you need to have a large percentage of the people support the idea in order to go to war? And then doesn't that bring us back to "PR is the key?"
I a way it does. But the reason it may have seemed like it was a demonic force may have been simply because he enjoyed it. It was not a nice person after all, and I think there was at least a bit of a sadist in him, not someone I would want to meet personally. I also wouldn't want spend too much time around sadists. I don't think defeating the Jihadist requires us to actually enjoy causing pain and suffering.
By the way here's an interesting article by a person who has an idea similar to yours. Its from the website, Red Alerts. Its kind of old through.
Thanks for showing us that article, it was very interesting and confirmed what I was saying. I came to the conclusion that the Jihadists were not all suicidal, for two reasons. One I heard news reports of Islamists being beaten back and instead of fighting to the death, like their ideology told them to, fled for their lives. Two, if their statements and their actions were completely consistent, every Jihadist on Earth would be dead by now. If every single one of them had no value for their lives, I don't think their ideology could have survived as long as it has.
The fact alone that even a small, but significant number of them become suicide bombers scares us out of our minds, because that willingness and eagerness to die for a cause, is so alien to Western culture, that it is virtually non existent here.
It would be similar to being a person living in "country X" A place the size and population of America,but with an average of only one murder per decade and then turning on the TV and hearing about all the murders that took place this year in New York and Los Angeles. If you lived in such a society and than you turned on the TV and heard about our murder rate, you problem think that America was a country filled with so much utter chaos and mayhem, that you probably would be able to understand why so many people wanted to live their.
You asked: what do you mean about turning this into a real war?
I say: First, we ought to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. We also ought to serve notice on Pakistan that there shall be no more shooting at our troops, jets, and even drones. Any attack on our military ought to be considered an attack on the United States of America from now on and that ought to be considered a declaration of War.
Iran has attacked us in Iraq. It's ridiculous that we didn't bomb the shit out of their military.
What the eff is wrong with us?
Additionally, we ought to declare Sharia to be sedition, as I have said so many times. Anyone who is working for the establishment of Sharia law in our country is committing jihad against us. That is a declaration of war. Since it is individual citizens who are committing these acts of war, they ought to be sent away from our country, or killed.
This whole thing of education, to my mind, is only a step towards creating the will for real war in the collective mind of the American people.
See, I told you I am more of an extremist than you.
Pastorius, I also think it should be considered war that Iran is sending its troops into Iraq to fight Coalition troops, and should be treated as such. Cease and desist, or we will start destroying your military.
Of course, that's easy for us to say, and I often give politicians the benefit of the doubt because there are always lots of ramifications to anything you do, and alliances you want to keep and all that. It's pretty complicated.
But the U.S. should be a leader in this, and being openly hostile to Iran would be a good start. I think people would come to see it as a good thing years later, but the action would be unpopular on the world stage right now. But I think that doesn't matter nearly as much as some seem to think. Leadership requires doing unpopular things sometimes and then convincing people it was a good thing.
You said, "This whole thing of education, to my mind, is only a step towards creating the will for real war in the collective mind of the American people."
Real war is probably necessary, but it won't stop the jihad within. And although I think deporting people for promoting jihad is a good idea, even that won't solve the jihad within. This is a sticky problem, and the more I learn about it, the stickier it seems.
ANY solution we come up with is worthless unless we can convince enough people that Islam is a dangerous political force. The reason it is all worthless is because not much can be done in any sustained way without the support of lots of people.
Creating the will. That's right. Whatever solutions we come up with -- and no doubt there will be many -- will require political will.
That leaves us with:
1. Thinking up solutions.
2. Building the political will.
3. Supporting those who do something in the right direction.
No when it comes to war on terror this guy is exteme!
You know, Damien, although that guy interviewed on fox was funny looking and his personality was obnoxious, he actually made a lot of sense!
Actually if you read through some of the comments on that blog post about what Leonard Peikoff was saying, I got into a discussion with some of the people who frequent that site. If you ever have the time, you might want to read through them. we had a very interesting discussion. I mentioned Jihad Watch and the Infidel Bloggers Allience at one point in my comments. If you want to comment on what Piekoff said, you can, but its an old post.
"He killed tens of thousands of Muslims in a battle and impaled them on stakes through the anus and out the mouth.
He left them there to rot"
Too bad there is not another like him around now! What the muslims did on 911 would never have happened!
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